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On 6/4/2019 at 11:53 AM, omegaseamaster75 said:

When was the last time Uchdorf flew a plane? I'm willing to bet that he owns more than one Breitling. My point is that even our leaders like nice things, it may even plan to their vanity who knows, but who cares? If he wants to strap 7k to his wrist good for him.

Other than my interest in fine watches, I don’t care. I don’t consider it any of my business what kind of watch he wears, car he drives, or house he lives in.

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On 6/8/2019 at 1:06 PM, Vort said:

This is simply not true. You will never, ever see 1-troy-ounce 24k gold bars sold for ten cents apiece, except maybe in a bizarre one-off. If a good or service is to be offered on an ongoing basis, the compensation must be no lower than the cost of production. Sure, you can raid a stash and sell off the contents at 1% of the cost, but that's not an ongoing service plan.

You will never see 1-troy-ounce 24K gold bars sold for ten cents apiece because nobody sells 24K gold bars for the purpose of losing money.  But, that's not always the case - that people don't mind selling something that is losing money.  Amazon actually does a lot of this type of selling, or the As Seen on TV ads - you might be familiar with the concept of "but wait... get this magic pan for 49.99 and you'll get the magic blanket for just 1.99 plus shipping!" and then a few days later you see an ad for "Get this magic blanket for 19.99 and get the magic spatula for 1.99 plus shipping!".  This is the same concept as Amazon businesses selling off products for $1 or some ridiculously low price to get star-ratings.  Even brick and mortar stores do sell-offs at 75% off retail making the price of the product lesser than production cost just to clear inventory because nobody is buying the thing anymore for original retail.

In any case, it doesn't matter if your product cost you $10 to make.  If people are only willing to pay you $5 for it then the price can only be $5 and you can't sell your product for any price higher than $5 let alone at a price higher than your production cost.

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On 6/8/2019 at 10:55 AM, Traveler said:

I thought to respond to your post.  As a software Eng. and acquainted with database operations - I am sure you understand that anything recorded can be recalled when one know the relational "keys" to the recorded data.  I have work with some companies and know that they track their inventory carefully.  Not for customers but for their own purposes; especially if a recall of product is necessary.  Keebler carefully tracks all the ingredients in their products.  They know where each chocolate chip in every cookie came from – even which pallet, truck, provider and date it was shipped.  They also track in batches where their products down to a box of cookies are shipped and how it was distributed.  I know because I help design their system. 

Likewise with Nestles that has over 2,000 brands of food products.   Also Sara Lee tracks their products – including their produce in their processing facilities.  I also designed a system for IBP Meats – but that company has been sold a couple of times and I do not know what they are called now.  The IBP system maintained which bovine produced each product and they could trace it through the stockyards, feeding lots and trucking to the very farm it came from.  They knew exactly how each bovine was graded by the government and tracked quality by individual cow down to the leather sold to auto manufacturing and upholstery.  We even tracked raw product shipped to cosmetics and pharmaceutical companies.

All this was done not for customer use but so any drop in quality could be mitigated for maximizing profits.   The real problem is that our government agencies have diligently worked for decades to developing and hiding taxing systems.  Whatever anyone in the USA purchases is already taxed between 40% to 60% on average.

What every citizen should know is that every penny taken out of the economy as taxes by the government; takes that economy away from capitalism and free markets.  We do not have a capitalistic economy in the USA – and though it is not actually socialistic or communistic – it is not even close to free and open capitalism because of heavy taxation.   Also this kind of taxation is extremely regressive and places the greatest burden on the poorer classes.  It is a social economic political trap that hurts the poor the most, the middle class next and favors the wealthy class the most.  But worse of all it; breeds corruption – especially in government bureaucracies and elected officials.  And not least of all it is deceptive - leaving many uneducated how intrusive and oppressive the government actually is towards its own citizens.

 

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You may be very knowledgeable with database systems but you haven't extended that to practical systems.  Okay, now tell me - how do you propose you can put a label on each product that contains the cost of each ingredient for the product when the cost fluctuates daily?  So you buy 10 sacks of nuts for $0.29 and another 10 sacks of the same nuts at $0.39 because your first supplier is out of stock.  So you make a batch of Reese's peanut butter cups with your 20 sacks of nuts - you're gonna segregate your Reese's and make sure these Reese's that use the $0.29 nuts goes to a different pallet than the ones with $0.39 nuts and then you have to go bust out the labeling machine to create another label because your stupid nuts supplier ran out of $0.29 nuts?

If you want to stop government from hiding taxes in capitalistic markets, you don't swing your sledgehammer to pound a finishing nail.  It is a VERY EASY solution that doesn't involve drastic increases in the cost of production that the manufacturing businesses have to eat.  All you need to do is TAKE TAXES OUT OF THE PRODUCTION CYCLE.  There's already a bill that got introduced in Congress for it.  It's called THE FAIR TAX.  The only impact to businesses is a change in the check out registers that apply the Federal and State Sales Taxes.  Then you see EXACTLY how much taxes is being paid for every single Reese's peanut butter cup you buy - because YOU ARE PAYING IT as a line item in your receipt.

 

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Kenneth Copeland, the same preacher this thread is about is healing people or making them immune to Coronavirus through the TV.     

I can't link to the orignal youtube video, but it's here on Newsweek.

https://www.newsweek.com/conservative-pastor-claims-he-healed-viewers-coronavirus-through-their-tv-screens-1492044

He is also has a history of telling people not to get flu shots because Jesus will heal them:

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/texas-televangelist-says-dont-need-flu-shot-youve-got-jesus/

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On 5/31/2019 at 4:02 PM, mdfxdb said:

are general authorities required to live the law of consecration?  How can we really know how well off they are?  Our prophet was a cardiac surgeon.  Those guy's make $ almost without limit at the level he was practicing at.  What happened to it all?  Utchdorf likes his Breitling watches......  not cheap.

Pres. Monson was a lifetime church employee, I'm not surprised he had a modest home...

My area auth lives in a $1.5mil home. I have been there and know the address. He is an attorney. BTW GAs and I believe all of them are paid approx. $120K annually. Part of that payment is parsonage which is a non taxable housing allowance. It isnt a ton of money, but having about 8-10% or your pay noon-taxable is a nice benefit. They can have whatever they get better them than me.

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