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Now for your weekly doom and gloom report: Readers beware.

Useful idiots. Brown Shirts. Now, AntiFa... and the entire left.  The basic premise behind all these groups is:  It's not Facism if WE do it!  BTW, I'd even include the Sons of Liberty in this category.

  • I say "the entire left" because there is no outrage from anyone in the public domain who is denouncing such attacks (except for Brian Stelter*).  In fact, we have a list of commentators who are making fun of Ngo rather than condemning his attackers.
  • We saw Sarah Huckabee Sanders kicked out of a restaurant, and later harassed while trying to simply eat at a restaurant with her family.  See the bottom of the linked article to see that Kirstjen Nielsen was also harassed while trying to eat out.
  • Then we see the owner of the restaurant defending a person who spit on Trump's Son.  She even went so far as to blame the Trump family for the actions of others.
  • And of course we know that gay pride parades are nothing but an example of the decent human beings we all ought to be.  NOT!!!

The thing is that it is not just "isolated incidents" from extremists.  People are RUSHING to defend AntiFa and the others involved in such persecution.  What would it be like if tables were turned?  There would be very few conservatives in the public square that would defend such action.  There would be near universal condemnation.  But when it happens to a conservative, "it's just an isolated incident."

Really?

85 y.o. pro life woman seated in a display on public property in front of a planned parenthood clinic: attacked by someone coming out of the clinic.  Her hip was shattered.  She was hospitalized.  It was all caught on video.  The grand jury refused to indict in the San Francisco jurisdiction.

https://missionlocal.org/2019/03/elderly-anti-abortion-protester-at-mission-planned-parenthood-assaulted-incident-caught-on-video/

And another peaceful display being attacked.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/uc-berkeley-employee-celebrated-on-campus-attack-of-conservative-activist_2812694.html

And pink crosses being either defaced, or stolen, or both.

https://godfatherpolitics.com/feminist-caught-stealing-crosses-from-pro-life-display/

https://www.dailywire.com/news/48721/watch-male-feminist-steals-pro-life-crosses-then-amanda-prestigiacomo

https://www.kctv5.com/news/dozens-of-pro-life-crosses-stolen-from-raytown-church/article_d315a9f2-cb42-11e8-966b-efb21a7172ee.html

But they're just isolated incidents.

All of this was born from Obama's rhetoric about "fundamentally transforming" this country.  One does not fundamentally transform anything without destroying what we have and then rebuild.  Anyone who refuses to see the link here is in denial.

Yes, I believe we're going to have a revolution -- or at least an attempt at revolution.  The American Revolution was not only fought, but won with a significantly large minority support.

*Hurray for him... but... https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/07/01/nolte-cnns-brian-stelter-downplays-antifas-brutal-beating-of-andy-ngo/

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There's also an old man who got whacked bloody by a crowbar in that same Antifa protest and the big dude who tried to defend him got whacked on the skull leaving a one-inch hole in it.  This is attempted murder by a domestic terrorist group.

Also, Antifa are now using quick dry cement to look like milkshakes and throwing it at people.

And, this is my reminder everytime Antifa does their antics - MITT ROMNEY POSTED ON HIS FACEBOOK ACCOUNT THAT ANTIFA ARE GOOD GUYS FIGHTING FASCISM.  Let that sink in, Utah.

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3 hours ago, anatess2 said:

There's also an old man who got whacked bloody by a crowbar in that same Antifa protest and the big dude who tried to defend him got whacked on the skull leaving a one-inch hole in it.  This is attempted murder by a domestic terrorist group.

Remember, the left is not hypocritical.  They just make a big stink about it when they get their feelies hurt.  But a conservative getting hit or spit upon or harassed is simply a natural result of what conservatives do.  So, it shouldn't be a surprise.

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12 minutes ago, Mores said:

Remember, the left is not hypocritical.  They just make a big stink about it when they get their feelies hurt.  But a conservative getting hit or spit upon or harassed is simply a natural result of what conservatives do.  So, it shouldn't be a surprise.

The narrative they're running is that they are only defending themselves from what they perceive as hate speech - which to them is violence... 

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16 minutes ago, anatess2 said:

The narrative they're running is that they are only defending themselves from what they perceive as hate speech - which to them is violence... 

That's essentially the same thing.  "They're asking for it."  Remember what I posted about Judge Wapner?  He saw it 30 years ago in a single courtroom. Look where it is now.

The San Francisco grand jury essentially said that an 85 y.o. woman was "asking for it."

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OK.  Now we have Ricky Gervais sort of condemning the action.  AND... the left is bashing him, calling him an alt-right Nazi.  Amazing.

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This happened in Portland...under the same mayor who did indeed order his police to stand down, and not protect ICE office workers from protestors. The mayor claimed that Trump was trying to draw local law enforcement into protecting his evil policies. Liberal calls for tolerance a few years back...were the lies, or did the left just never believe they would gain the cultural influence they now wield?

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23 minutes ago, Colirio said:

Sounds to me like several people have finally hit their tipping point. 

 

And what do you plan to do about it? 

Thomas Sharp’s words in the Warsaw Signal keep nagging at me:

War and extermination is inevitable! Citizens ARISE, ONE and ALL!!!—Can you stand by, and suffer such INFERNAL DEVILS! to ROB men of their property and RIGHTS, without avenging them. We have no time for comment, every man will make his own. LET IT BE MADE WITH POWDER AND BALL!!!

But then I consider the source . . .

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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/demand-president-trump-label-antifa-domestic-terrorist-organization

There's now a petition on the White House website demanding that Antifa be declared a domestic terror organization. 

Given that Ngo was an openly homosexual man of Vietnamese descent and yet Antifa claims that they only target alt-right, white supremacist, and fascist groups, people are finally starting to realize that something's seriously wrong. 

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8 hours ago, Ironhold said:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/demand-president-trump-label-antifa-domestic-terrorist-organization

There's now a petition on the White House website demanding that Antifa be declared a domestic terror organization.

The libertarian tendencies in my mind lead me to believe -- This is not going to end well for anyone.

Then the LDS side of my remembers the account in the Book of Mormon -- Capt. Moroni did not treat the Kingmen with kid gloves.

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4 hours ago, Traveler said:

I wonder if the "Left" and Antifa are the modern Latter-day Samaritans for Conservatives. 

I could consider the "Left" to have some similarities.  But Antifa is a different animal.  They are specifically a group dedicated to spreading anarchy through violent means.  I don't see any such parallel with Samaritans there.  But the Kingmen (as I've pointed out) are much closer.

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12 hours ago, Mores said:

I could consider the "Left" to have some similarities.  But Antifa is a different animal.  They are specifically a group dedicated to spreading anarchy through violent means.  I don't see any such parallel with Samaritans there.  But the Kingmen (as I've pointed out) are much closer.

There is a long history of friction between the Jews and Samaritans dating back to when the Northern tribes of Israel  were removed by Seria and replaced by foreign pagans also conquered by Seria.  The Samaritans were a group among the pagans (most of them) that were converted to Jehovah in a fashion that did not please the Jews and were thus considered false and apostate by the Jews.  Groups among the Samaritans were indeed violent and destructive.  During the second temple period the Samaritans succeeded (through violence and destruction) in shutting down completely (for a while) both the rebuilding of the second temple and the repatriation of the Jews back to Jerusalem.  When the Greeks controlled the region things got much worse and the Jews were almost destroyed (and the Samaritans played a part) but the Jews were saved by the the predecessors of the Pharisees.

 During the time of Jesus expressions of friction were meet with sevier responses by the Romans to both sides (kind of like a parent that spanks both children when they squabbled).  The Pharisees and Scribes (Jewish leaders) would not pass through Samaria without heavy personal guards and often Roman escorts.  A side note - because the Jews of Galilee had to pass through Samaria to get to Jerusalem they were considered lessor Jews.  But Samaria also helped to provide cover for Jesus as he spent most of his time (80% of his miracles) and most of his teachings in Galilee in effect out of reach from the power base of the Pharisees and Scribes - something that I am sure contributed to why Jesus was so despised by the Pharisees and Scribes.  I sometimes wonder if the parable of the "Good" Samaritan was intended sarcasm pointed directly at the Pharisees, Scribes and many other Jews that blanketly reject anyone so connected to their political rivals.  The Pharisees and Scribes hated all Samaritans - regardless of their devotion to Jehovah - much like many conservatives reject anyone on the "left" especially that are sympathetic with the far left as expressed by Antifa, Black Lives Matter or other such peripheral organizations. 

I am intrigued by your Book of Mormon references - specifically because I believe the Book of Mormon is intended to provide prophetic revelation (in symbolism) for our day.   I believe the BofM points to the root cause in the fall of the Nephite society more to infiltrations by "secret combinations" into the Nephite judicial system (law changing judges - sometimes referred to in our time as legslativitive judges) and other government leaders and bureaucrats that provided "cover" for violence and efforts to overthrow the "Law" (equivalent to our constitution).

 

The Traveler 

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12 minutes ago, Traveler said:

There is a long history of friction between the Jews and Samaritans dating back to when the Northern tribes of Israel  were removed by Seria and replaced by foreign pagans also conquered by Seria.  The Samaritans were a group among the pagans (most of them) that were converted to Jehovah in a fashion that did not please the Jews and were thus considered false and apostate by the Jews.  Groups among the Samaritans were indeed violent and destructive.

There is a difference between a cold war and a hot war.  Can you catch my meaning?

12 minutes ago, Traveler said:

I am intrigued by your Book of Mormon references - specifically because I believe the Book of Mormon is intended to provide prophetic revelation (in symbolism) for our day.   I believe the BofM points to the root cause in the fall of the Nephite society more to infiltrations by "secret combinations" into the Nephite judicial system (law changing judges - sometimes referred to in our time as legslativitive judges) and other government leaders and bureaucrats that provided "cover" for violence and efforts to overthrow the "Law" (equivalent to our constitution).

Yes.  Do you catch my meaning?

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40 minutes ago, Mores said:

There is a difference between a cold war and a hot war.  Can you catch my meaning?

Having served in the army during the Vietnam conflict (height of the so called Cold War) - I believe I can say by experience that I understand what war is - not sure what you and many others think war is and what the adjective cold does to the meaning of war - beyond propaganda.  Is there something in your experience I have missed or with which I could be enlightened?

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Yes.  Do you catch my meaning?

Not sure now - I believe that Antifa is most related to what is often called the "Brown shirts" of Hitler era Germany - which was intended for propaganda and secretly directed by Joseph Goebbels.   Not all Hitler youth were evil - some thought they were doing something good for G-d and country.  If I am missing something - Perhaps you could be specific and not so general.

 

Thanks

The Traveler

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1 hour ago, Traveler said:

Having served in the army during the Vietnam conflict (height of the so called Cold War) - I believe I can say by experience that I understand what war is - not sure what you and many others think war is and what the adjective cold does to the meaning of war - beyond propaganda.  Is there something in your experience I have missed or with which I could be enlightened?

It has to do with the frequency and level of violence.  WWII produced deadly encounters nearly every week or even every day in some months.  The cold war between East and West, not so much.  Was there some fighting? Yes.  But the death toll was nowhere near WWII (even when considering the fighting of the US and German force alone).

Antifa has now become a force that seeks out violence above anything else whenever they are engaged in any public demonstration.  They don't just "say words".  They don't just show their disapproval.  They are specifically out to physically harm someone or many people whenever they are in the public square.

The Jews and Samaritans may have hated each other (much like the right and left).  But they weren't always getting up in arms, physically assaulting each other at every group encounter.

1 hour ago, Traveler said:

Not sure now - I believe that Antifa is most related to what is often called the "Brown shirts" of Hitler era Germany - which was intended for propaganda and secretly directed by Joseph Goebbels.   Not all Hitler youth were evil - some thought they were doing something good for G-d and country.  If I am missing something - Perhaps you could be specific and not so general.

They used to be like that.  But they've morphed.

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1 hour ago, The Folk Prophet said:

I had no idea you were such an old fart.

It's worse than that; he meant the Chinese army.  I forget which dynasty though.

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On 7/1/2019 at 10:26 PM, Just_A_Guy said:

But then I consider the source . . .

Not to worry; there are plenty of sources for powder and ball, many with excellent shipping policies.  You may, however, want to get with local cannon enthusiasts and split a 25lb case of powder, as the hazmat fees on single pound orders are a bit rough.

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4 hours ago, The Folk Prophet said:

I had no idea you were such an old fart.

Believe me - it is much harder for me to believe it than it is for you.

 

The Traveler

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On 7/3/2019 at 2:38 PM, Mores said:

They used to be like that.  But they've morphed.

If I understood you correctly, you're trying to say Antifa used to be like that but they've morphed?  No.  Antifa has always been like what they are now.  Their first known activist act was to throw molotov cocktails to prevent conservative speakers from speaking at Berkeley.

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On 7/3/2019 at 12:38 PM, Mores said:

It has to do with the frequency and level of violence.  WWII produced deadly encounters nearly every week or even every day in some months.  The cold war between East and West, not so much.  Was there some fighting? Yes.  But the death toll was nowhere near WWII (even when considering the fighting of the US and German force alone).

Antifa has now become a force that seeks out violence above anything else whenever they are engaged in any public demonstration.  They don't just "say words".  They don't just show their disapproval.  They are specifically out to physically harm someone or many people whenever they are in the public square.

The Jews and Samaritans may have hated each other (much like the right and left).  But they weren't always getting up in arms, physically assaulting each other at every group encounter.

They used to be like that.  But they've morphed.

I think that some of this is "out in the weeds".  Let me go back to the first reference to a good Samaritan.  

Jesus was asked by a Jew what was the first or greatest commandment.  Jesus responded with the first commandment to love G-d.  The second commandment was to love our neighbor as our self.  In response the Jew asked "Who is my neighbor?"  In response Jesus gave the parable we now call "The Good Samaritan". 

In this context I wonder if we should consider liberals and Antifi as our neighbor to be loved as we love ourselves?  I honestly think the answer is yes - but, not knowing the rest of you that well - not sure if you have settled this or not.  I do not even come close.  Now, if like the prodigal Son - such were to come to their senses - I would kill a fatted calf.  But not while they are still being destructive and violent.  

 

The Traveler

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Antifa, like the Brown Shirts are a  bunch of kids who want to beat people up with no ramifications, the "enemy" is irrelevant, although it's being pushed by an anti-American, anti-Free Speech agenda.  But you need to find the head of the snake.  Trouble is, the snake includes the people who are meant to investigate such things. 

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