JohnsonJones Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Interesting comments on the Church's decision to leave the Boy Scouts... We Didn't leave the Boy Scouts, they left us Quote New York • A high-ranking leader with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints said Friday the faith severed its centurylong ties with the Boy Scouts of America because the organization made changes that pushed it away from the church. “The reality there is we didn’t really leave them; they kind of left us,” said M. Russell Ballard, acting president of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. “The direction they were going was not consistent to what we feel our youth need to have ... to survive in the world that lies ahead for them.” So, what is going on here? In my experience, the Church allowed Gay Boy Scouts and Gay Boy Scout leaders LOOOOONG before they were actually legalized in Boy Scouts. I've had Boy Scout leaders over my boys many years ago who were Homosexual and had a CC that actually was bringing her girlfriend to church (note, I did NOT select these leaders as I was not in the Bishopric at the time or anywhere close to being in it or influential in it). The church allowed ANY boy, gay or not, to be in Boy Scouts. Is it really that the Boy Scouts simply allowed girls to be Boy Scouts as well...or is it something deeper. I find it IRONIC that so many complain about Boy Scouts allowing Boys who are homosexual or leaders that are homosexual into them when the Church has allowed or done this (at least in my area) blatantly at times over the past few decades before these were even items long before the Boy Scouts even had them as issues to consider. Luckily, there is a clarification specifically on what Elder Ballard is referring to... Quote Although the Utah-based faith has allowed — and does allow — openly gay Latter-day Saints to serve in church assignments, including the Boy Scouts, these members are deemed to be living the faith’s standards. This means they are not acting on their same-sex attractions. Scouting’s new inclusive policy, however, made no such distinction between “openly gay” and “sexually active gay leaders.” So a gay Scout leader could have a partner or a same-sex spouse — and that troubled the church brass. Which is interesting. I'm not sure what I think about it. They presented the reason they were leaving originally to be to make a program that catered to all the youth in the world...which I can see the benefits of. Scouting is not able to really be a program for a world wide church...however, this article (and admittedly it is from the SL Tribune which I have not heard great things about) indicates it was over something different. As scouting allowed the charter organization, and specifically the Church to make decisions on who to allow as members of troops as well as leaders, this should not have affected the Church in how they ran their program. They just come out with something saying that their troops will not participate in official programs such as the Boy Scout Camps offered by Councils and will instead run their own camps and programs and they could have kept going with Scouts just fine if this was truly the reason. I'm hoping the decision was still as they originally stated, in that it was the need for a world-wide program for all the members of the church. The program they have I feel IS inspired, or at least I felt it was inspired when learning about the basics of it (more this Sunday I believe for everyone out there), so I could readily accept that reason as the WHY they did it. This article leave me more wondering about it though. Not sure what I think about the article after reading it. MrShorty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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