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Moving the remains of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov from the Ukraine to Israel?

Do you think that Latter day Saints and Breslovian Chassidic women might be able to cooperate on moving the remains of Rabbi Nachman to Israel?  

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  1. 1. Do you personally think that Latter day Saint women and Breslovian Chassidic women might be willing to discuss moving the remains of Rabbi Nachman to somewhere in Israel?

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Moving the remains of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov from Uman in the Ukraine to somewhere in Israel is a proposed project that could lead to an astonishing amount of cooperation between Latter day Saints and Breslovian Chassidic Jews both in the Ukraine as well as in Israel?

 

If this proposed projects gets off the ground it would be noticed by Breslovian Chassidic Jews living all over the world.  

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Here are some of the astonishingly wise saying by Rabbi Nachman of Breslov:

 

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Nachman_of_Breslov

 

 

It is a great mitzvah to always be happy. (LM2 34)

It is even good to do silly things in order to cheer oneself up. (ibid)

It is good to set aside a specific time everyday to be heartbroken and to speak out all ones problems before God, but the rest of the day be only happy. (ibid)

The essential joy comes from mitzvot. (LM 30:5)

 

If you believe that you can destroy, believe you can fix. (LM2 112)

 

 

Know! You need to judge every person favorably, even someone who is completely wicked, you need to search and find any little bit of good. By finding in him a little good and judging him favorably you actually bring him over to the side of merit and you can return him in teshuva (LM 282)

A person also needs to find in himself a little bit of good. Because no matter how low a person is, how can it be that he didn’t do one good thing in his entire life? (ibid)

Every single Jew has a point in them that is uniquely precious. And it is with this point that he bestows upon, enlightens, and arouses the heart of others. We all need to accept this arousal and this unique point from each other. As it says, “And they receive one from another” (Isaiah 3). (LM 34)

Every single Jew has in him a portion of God above. (LM 35)


PERSONAL REDEMPTION AND ENLIGHTENMENT

When a person knows that everything that happens to him is for the best, this is a taste of the world to come. (LM 4)

Know that the primary essence of exile is only our lack of belief. (LM 7)

Gan Eiden and Geihinom are literally in this world. (Ibid 22)

A Jewish person needs to always look at the wisdom within everything in order that it will enlighten him so that he can come close to God through each thing. Because this wisdom is a great light and it will enlighten all his ways. (Ibid 1)

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Although I am not a Latter day Saint I voted Yes in the poll because I attended the local New Glasgow, Nova Scotia ward of the LDS church in 2019 and I just got the vibe that Latter day Saints would be enthusiastic to at least discuss an option like this.  

I believe that this could be tied in with an alternative theory on stabilization of the climate that  could transform the economies of several nations.  This alternative theory on stabilization of the climate fits well with Isaiah chapter thirty five.

So moving the remains of Rabbi Nachman could be the relatively simple project that you discuss......  an opening gambit to stabilize the world environment could be the HUGE project that this smaller proposed project opens the door to:

 

Global Warming II by Carl Cantrell

So how is our problem of continental drying causing global warming? It all has to do with vegetation and sunlight. When sun light hits a plant, it causes a process which we call photosynthesis where the energy from the sun light creates oxygen for us to breath, water for us to drink, and is stored as sugar for plants and animals to use. When the same sun light hits the soil, all of its energy turns into heat and is radiated back into the atmosphere, carried away by running surface water such as rain fall, is carried away to other areas by our winds, and diffuses down into the soil towards the earth's crust. All of this warms our planet increasing its average temperature.

Therefore, the less vegetation you have on the planet, the more sunlight is being turned into heat and the warmer the planet becomes. This is very critical because warmer and dryer winds dry out other land areas faster decreasing the vegetation on those land areas. Less humidity in the air also reflects less sun light back out into space so that more sun light strikes the earth and more heat is generated.

The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave.

So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible. But the method is much more complex than that. You have to use the prevailing trade winds in relation to the deserts to get the best results as quickly as possible and it will be extremely expensive.

Then we build desalination plants along the coast near these water sheds and pipe water to the tops or ridges of the water sheds

This will do a number of things. First, it will increase the moisture in the desert soil so that it will develop water tables and water will begin to run in the streams. This water will increase the amount of vegetation in the area and decrease the amount of heat being generated by sun light cooling the watered area and all areas down wind of the watered area. As more available water evaporates, it will cool the air and reflect more sun light back out into space cooling the area even more. Cooler and more humid air will have less of a heating effect on areas down wind and will reflect more sun light back into space in those areas cooling areas we won't be watering yet. Cooler and more humid air will also have less of a warming effect on our seas and oceans.

Rain water running off of cooler soil will decrease the heating effect on our oceans and our planet crusts which will decrease catastrophic storm activities for other areas and seismic activity for the entire planet. Also, returning more ocean water to the surface and aquifers of our continents will lower the sea levels providing more usable land for us to farm and build on.

With cooler desert areas and increasing vegetation, less water will evaporate from our deserts increasing the amount of surface water even more and increasing the amount of vegetation and animal life by huge amounts because deserts currently take up more than 20% of our land surface. Populations will be able to spread out and there will be less competition for existing land areas.

This strategy has to be done in steps with the first step being to begin slowing the rate at which our global warming is increasing. We need to focus on that until we have brought it to a point to where the temperature is not increasing any more and is reasonably stable. While we are doing this, we need to come to a global consensus of just how cool we want to cool our planet down to. If we cool it down too much, we will begin to have devastatingly harsh winters in large populated areas and even cause an ice age to set in.

Then we begin cooling the planet down to a point which will be most beneficial for all countries or the planet as a whole. We need to gradually bring the temperature down because there may be a lag effect in which the planet will continue cooling after we stop increasing our efforts to cool it off more. We may even want to stop cooling the planet once or twice before we reach our targeted temperatures to see if there is a lag effect


We need to start working on this as soon as possible because, if the planet reaches a point to where it is warming faster than our technology can possibly stop or reverse this warming trend, then our planet is lost and all life will cease to exist on this planet within a relatively short period of time. We will need to start with the largest and hottest deserts because cooling them will have the greatest benefit in the least time (Global Warming II by biologist Carl Cantrell).

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Note.... the nation of Israel applied their idea of Tikkun Olam by donating the Sahara Forest Project technology to Norway so that Norwegian officials and scientists could share the technology with Islamic nations that could not deal directly with Israel.

 

https://www.saharaforestproject.com

 

Here is some background on one of their massive non-solar powered desalination facilities:

 

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/534996/megascale-desalination/

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This is a truly powerful message from Rabbi Alon Anava who had a near death experience on Passover of 2001 that turned his life completely around.  I have this powerful feeling that it is time that Latter day Saints and Jews all over the world prove to all the world that we can live to be a hundred years of age and be healthy.  Here is a summary of his full story but I see something truly unusual being began with all of his messages put together.

https://www.alonanava.com/about/

Rabbi Alon Anava was born and raised in Israel.  He grew up in Ra’anana in a very secular family without any Torah education or knowledge. He grew up hating religion and anything that had to do with it. He did not believe in G-od and the Torah and lived  life as a secular Jew. In 1998, he moved to New York and soon after, on a very special day, the morning of Passover 2001 he had a Near Death Experience due to a sudden cardiac arrest. This event has changed his life for the GOOD!!!

Before his life-altering experience, Alon would describe himself as simply put, ‘not a nice guy..’ but after facing death, and realizing the purpose of life, Alon transformed his very being and since then dedicates his life to serving G-od and Torah observance. Soon After his Near Death Experience he diligently attended Yeshiva studying every day, exploring the depths of Torah, refining and elevating himself on a daily basis for over a decade. Rabbi Alon Anava attended his Rabbinical studies at Yeshivah Kol Ya’akov – Hadar Hatorah in Brooklyn, New York.

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His near death experience account reminds me greatly of Matthew 4.  He had a scary NDE.

The many lectures that I have heard from Rabbi Alon Anava reminds me greatly of Matthew 5

Matthew 6

and Matthew 7 and I am sure that this is the beginning of the fulfillment of the bringing of Judah and Joseph together again after many millennia.

 

 

This is an extremely powerful sermon on THANKFULNESS that Rabbi Alon Anava did after another and very recent brush with death.  

 

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Now it is becoming more clear.....  The G-d of Abraham is setting up this Hebrew month of Kislev to be a time of the LIGHT of G-d moving into this entire world unlike has been seen in perhaps two thousand years....... .and I believe that Rabbi Alon Anava has been used by G-d like a star player that he wants to be noticed by more and more and more of Gentiles like myself so that we end up taking a step or two toward understanding the Jewish roots of what was taught by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus.  

 

Ezekiel 37

is coming to pass right now!

 

15 The word of Jehovah came again unto me, saying, 16 And thou, son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and [for] all the house of Israel his companions: 17 and join them for thee one to another into one stick, that they may become one in thy hand.

18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not show us what thou meanest by these?

19 say unto them, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his companions; and I will put them with it, [even] with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in my hand.

20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thy hand before their eyes.

21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, whither they are gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 and I will make them one nation in the land, upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all; and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all; 23 neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will save them out of all their dwelling-places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

24 And my servant David shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in mine ordinances, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, they, and their children, and their children's children, for ever: and David my servant shall be their prince for ever.

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The problem is that there are a hundred thousand Breslovian Chassidic pilgrims going to the grave of Rabbi Nachman annually and some people are making a lot of money off them.

The Ukraine has the potential to become a major breadbasket to the world.... especially with climate change.  Actually there are gifted people who predicted that.  

You have all read about how the economy of the Ukraine is not exactly the least corrupt on earth........ please pray for them.  

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Just after the sixteen minute mark in this video is an explanation for the resurrection of Lazarus that sure sounds like what Rabbi Nachman did for so many.
 

 

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From a good friend in Israel:
 
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To the great POTUS, Mr. Donald Trump,
 
May the Lord protect you from all Evil.
 
The President of Ukraine, the Jew, Vladimir Zelensky, must send to The Israeli Government the bones of Rabbi Nachman (Uman to Jerusalem, the Holy City).
 
Gd has the power to stand over you honorable President Trump while you and President Zelensky carry this out in the face of the most Evil forces in history.
 
The wisdom and merit of Rabbi Nachman will subjugate the left in both USA and Israel. They will completely fail with no hope of ever coming back to power.
 
Your Servant,
 
Sharon Shlomo Cheltser,
 
Chairman of the Committee to Bring Rabbi Nachman to Jerusalem. (Na Nach Nachma Nachman Meuman)

 

 

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Here is a relevant message from my Israeli friend Mordecai:


 

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Dear President Donald Trump,

 

President Zelensky has set up a 2 Billion Dollar price for his countries’ bilateral political treaty with Israel. I encourage you to be the one to “stand up”, (as you stated in your USMCA speech) because I believe no one else can understand this issue but you. In order to help you grasp the subject as best I can, I am almost pledgerising the long letter sent on July 9th 1984 by Rabbi Na Nach Nachma Nachman to Mr. Marshall Breger from the President Ronald Reagan White House. I have already sent the original to Mr. Marc Zell. The mistake made at the time was that they asked for One Billion Dollars instead of 2 Million, but now the price if correct, turns out to be exactly 2 Billion Dollars (if this brings World Peace and security against pandemics it is well worth it). (Ukraine might credit themselves with cutting 50% off their asking price.)

 

I) The revelation of Rabbi Nachmans’ “special piece of paper””aroused the interest of many Great Rabbis (righteous individuals) all over the world because they had witnessed the greatness of the Almighty and they all said at once that in this piece of paper is hidden all the secrets for the salvation of the world”.

 

II) “Three months ago, I met with the Chief Rabbi of all the United States, Rabbi Moshe Feinstein, Shalita. He gave me a letter stating the great importance of my mission and blessed my meeting with President Reagan.”

 

III) “(this letter)contains many secrets that are hard to explain and talk about, but the secret of changing the entire world from bad to good depends on printing all the works of Rabbi Nachman in all the languages of the world” (I suggest the best place to do this for the moment is in Uman).

 

IV) Rabbi Nachman: “The whole world very much longs and greatly strives to know of me because the entire world needs me very much and cannot exist without me”. “I can RETURN and cause all the nations of the world to believe in and serve the Almighty. For this, I know clearly that I am the one and only leader and there is no other leader like me.”

 

V) “Mr. Breger, speeches and talks of that kind have never been said since the world was created until Rabbi Nachman comes and there is more of this kind.”

 

VI) “Mr. Breger,..let President Reagan know that my colleagues and I do not seek fame or fortune. Our only desire is to serve the Almighty and bring Peace to this war-weary planet.

 

VII) “I was close to the great Nobel Prize winner, S.Y.Agnon and also for thirty years was a very close friend of Zalman Shazam, a former President of the State of Israel. President Shazar also wrote a book containing the letters I sent him on the subject...”

 

VIII) I spoke with former Prime Minister Menachem Begin two years ago and he told me that the State of Israel does not have the money for an undertaking such as the printing of Rabbi Nachman’s works on this large scale. So it came to my mind and heart that I should ask your Nation, the United States of America, because you have been blessed by G-d in all the blessings possible, because of your great kindness to the Jews who are in the United States....The USSR is not blessed by G-d because of the troubles they are giving the Jews.”

 

IX) “In addition to all this, America will be blessed in all matters of finance and morally and spiritually and will be a symbol for the whole world.... But on the other hand, I have to tell President Reagan that if he will not give this kind of help, then the world will continue to have Wars and bloodshed. Many millions of people will be killed all over the world, and the spiritual darkness will only become worse.”

 

Rabbi Nachman: “without me the entire world is chaos”.

 

On holy land over the past 27 years at great personal cost, I have learned the incredible importance of bringing the bones from Uman to Jerusalem. This undertaking surpasses even the printing of the books. I assure you EVERYTHING you are doing will only reach “total victory” through the completion of the bringing of Rabbi Nachmans remains to Jerusalem.

 

THIS ACCOMPLISHMENT IS GREATER THAN THE WRITING OF THE BOOKS!!! AND will be entirely to YOUR CREDIT this is undoubtedly the will of the Almighty.

 

To your TOTAL success!!!!

 

Geoffrey Max Mordecai Spiro For the Committee to Bring Rabbi Nachman to Jerusalem.

 

 

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