Nacho2Dope 7 Report post Posted February 17, 2020 Social media is full of rumors over the new handbook, any word on any changes that might be coming out in the new handbook that will be released this week? Thanks, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jane_Doe 6288 Report post Posted February 17, 2020 Find out later this week 2 1 Midwest LDS, SilentOne and Nacho2Dope reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nacho2Dope 7 Report post Posted February 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jane_Doe said: Find out later this week Wednesday is going to be a very busy day. 1 Jane_Doe reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedleinA 4158 Report post Posted February 17, 2020 49 minutes ago, Nacho2Dope said: any word on any changes that might be coming out in the new handbook that will be released this week? Yes. A entirely new chapter on spekulayshun. 😉 1 3 MrShorty, Anddenex, Midwest LDS and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anddenex 3408 Report post Posted February 18, 2020 The new handbook will cover the changes that have been made, they will no longer be addendums so to speak. 2 Midwest LDS and Nacho2Dope reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fether 3065 Report post Posted February 18, 2020 3 hours ago, NeedleinA said: spekulayshun One of the unforgivable curses banned by the Ministry of Magic! 5 dprh, Sunday21, carlimac and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nacho2Dope 7 Report post Posted February 18, 2020 10 hours ago, Anddenex said: The new handbook will cover the changes that have been made, they will no longer be addendums so to speak. I am not expecting any major changes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mordorbund 4549 Report post Posted February 18, 2020 I got to prescreen it. The new handbook doesn't actually have any new content. What it has instead is section headings lifted directly from Handbook 1, and the body contains the same text: "Refer to your bishop." 4 NeedleinA, Nacho2Dope, NeuroTypical and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedleinA 4158 Report post Posted February 18, 2020 3 hours ago, mordorbund said: "Refer to your bishop." Goooooooood! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mordorbund 4549 Report post Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, NeedleinA said: Goooooooood! Edited February 18, 2020 by mordorbund 1 3 MrShorty, Midwest LDS, NeedleinA and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MormonGator Report post Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) Apparently, disciplinary councils are no longer called that, and the church strengthened it's view that transgenderism is against the will of God. Other than that, no major changes? Edited February 19, 2020 by MormonGator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Scott Report post Posted February 19, 2020 44 minutes ago, MormonGator said: and the church strengthened it's view that transgenderism is against the will of God. It seems that it has gone softer rather than strengthened the policies. Before transgender people couldn't get baptized (or at least I thought so). Now it seems that they can? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarginOfError 1465 Report post Posted February 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Scott said: It seems that it has gone softer rather than strengthened the policies. Before transgender people couldn't get baptized (or at least I thought so). Now it seems that they can? Transgendered, yes. Less clear whether they may be when they are transitioned (although I would interpret the handbook to indicate they can be baptized, but may not be able to receive priesthood or temple ordinances). But this handbook seems to consider "transgender" and "transgender and transitioned" to be separate concepts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MormonGator Report post Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Scott said: It seems that it has gone softer rather than strengthened the policies. Before transgender people couldn't get baptized (or at least I thought so). Now it seems that they can? That's true. I do think the church is getting more "progressive" for lack of a better word. Or at least more sensitive. Edited February 19, 2020 by MormonGator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarginOfError 1465 Report post Posted February 19, 2020 Well, this version of the Handbook is less sensitive to left handed members. Quote Members partake with their right hand when possible. (18.9.4) I really thought we had gotten past this kind of nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vort 17311 Report post Posted February 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, MarginOfError said: Well, this version of the Handbook is less sensitive to left handed members. Quote Members partake with their right hand when possible. (18.9.4) I really thought we had gotten past this kind of nonsense. I don't understand. If the First Presidency considered it sufficient to include in the handbook, how is it "nonsense"? 2 2 Grunt, Fether, Anddenex and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anddenex 3408 Report post Posted February 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, MarginOfError said: Well, this version of the Handbook is less sensitive to left handed members. I really thought we had gotten past this kind of nonsense. Why does this last statement bring the scripture to mind, "When they are learned they think they are wise..." Yep, totally insensitive, I mean how dare a left handed person choose to use the proper hand as directed "when possible." Heaven forbid! 2 1 Nacho2Dope, Fether and NeedleinA reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fether 3065 Report post Posted February 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, MarginOfError said: Members partake with their right hand when possible. (18.9.4) Somewhere there is an 80 year old man with no teeth shaking his fist out the window shouting "SEEEEE!!!" 3 Vort, e-eye and Anddenex reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MormonGator Report post Posted February 19, 2020 This is to signify that members are to take the sacrament with their right hand, right? Is this what it's about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fether 3065 Report post Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, MormonGator said: This is to signify that members are to take the sacrament with their right hand, right? Is this what it's about? Indeed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarginOfError 1465 Report post Posted February 19, 2020 18 minutes ago, Vort said: I don't understand. If the First Presidency considered it sufficient to include in the handbook, how is it "nonsense"? That particular instruction, so far as I can tell, has never been included before. I can confirm it hasn't been in the Handbooks for at least 20 years. It's extra scriptural, with the significance of the right hand deriving from cultural influences that are themselves derived from the sanitation habits of ancient civilizations. But with a little research, I'm less surprised. This link is the only reference I can find by any Church leader in the past 40 years that says anything at all on the subject. Guess who.... I'll put this one on the list of policy statement against which I am in open rebellion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vort 17311 Report post Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, MarginOfError said: I'll put this one on the list of policy statement against which I am in open rebellion. I'd suggest that isn't a wise course of action. 1 Grunt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MormonGator Report post Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, MarginOfError said: I'll put this one on the list of policy statement against which I am in open rebellion. 1 minute ago, Vort said: I'd suggest that isn't a wise course of action. I'm curious guys (Actually MOE, I don't know your gender. My apologies if I'm wrong)-is this a hill you want to die on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fether 3065 Report post Posted February 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, MormonGator said: I'm curious guys (Actually MOE, I don't know your gender. My apologies if I'm wrong)-is this a hill you want to die on? @Vort dies on every hill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarginOfError 1465 Report post Posted February 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, MormonGator said: I'm curious guys (Actually MOE, I don't know your gender. My apologies if I'm wrong)-is this a hill you want to die on? I've tried to die on a lot of hills. Some have been even smaller than this one. 1 Just_A_Guy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
