Is it a coincidence?


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1 hour ago, Godless said:

Considering that seven of the ten most populous cities in the US are sanctuary cities, I'm going to say yes.

But is it truly just coincidence that the ten most populous and densely populated areas in the US are also those with homeless problems and those that lean leftist enough to be so-called sanctuary cities? I don't think that's coincidence by any possible stretch of imagination. It's like saying that it's merely coincidental that dogs are both hairy and have fleas. The correlation between the conditions may not be one-to-one, but it's clear they're related by something much stronger than coincidence.

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8 hours ago, Traveler said:

Is it a coincidence that the top areas in the USA for problems with the coronavirus are sanctuary cities and also places with significant  homeless problems?

 

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The top ten areas where the virus is the worst are all major travel hubs.

The countries where illegal immigrants are coming from were some of the last to be hit, so it is unlikely that they were the ones bringing it.

Most of the corona virus was brought here by tourists and business travelers.

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It's too early to gloat.

This virus hasn't even began to show what it's going to do to the US from the estimates.

We'll be lucky if it doesn't spread to every corner of the US and cause massive problems in regards to healthcare and beds.  New York is already looking at a crisis in the next two weeks.

Utah is probably a month to a month and a half behind them as are other areas which have not been hit as hard yet.  Unless drastic measures are taken, we are probably ALL going to look like New York is eventually...unless somehow we get lucky or the Lord blesses us tremendously. 

I HOPE that somehow this can be avoided and the disease dies out...but at this point I think we need a miracle (and if one happens, we should all go to the temple and spend many hours in thanks, or at least I feel I should...but then I am part of that more venerable group that has I think around an 8% chance of dying from this.  The young have good percentages to make it out of this though).

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While I agree that correlation does not necessarily mean causation, and while I agree that residents of sanctuary cities and large homeless populations might not be the initial cause of the problem, it seems rather obvious that poor hygiene and poor living conditions exacerbates this issue. 
 

Anyone who has visited or lived in third world countries would be able to attest to the poor hygienic conditions in which the people often live. Likewise, homelessness is certainly known for poor hygienic conditions. 
 

The root question we are really dancing around is whether socialistic governments create poorer conditions for its citizens, which in turn aggravate problems such as these. 

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Was anyone else paying attention to Trump's press conference two days ago?

Because, y'know, he, like, shut down the borders and emptied out the detention centers, and nobody seems to have picked up on it.  In the Q&A session after the statements, only one reporter asked anything about it.  Everyone else was all nonstop covid covid covid.

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On 3/22/2020 at 3:33 PM, Colirio said:

Anyone who has visited or lived in third world countries would be able to attest to the poor hygienic conditions in which the people often live. Likewise, homelessness is certainly known for poor hygienic conditions. 

Third World country citizen here.  People living in very poor hygienic conditions, interestingly, are very resilient to disease, especially things like the flu.  There's a place in the Philippines where it is literally a mountain formed out of unprocessed trash.  A large community live on the foot of that mountain and their livelihood is to walk up that mountain every single day to look for anything that will fetch a price.  That's not just the adults either.  That's anybody old enough to walk and pick out something of value.  Nobody believes people can, not only survive living there for a day, but live there their whole lives and live to old age.  Poor people on seaside shanties eating ocean things raw look at those people on the foot of the trash mountain deriding their "unclean lifestyle, they're all going to die".  Middle class people in the cities look at poor people on the seaside deriding their "unclean lifestyle, they're all going to die".  Meanwhile, people in the cities are dying just because they got the flu.

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5 hours ago, anatess2 said:

Third World country citizen here.  People living in very poor hygienic conditions, interestingly, are very resilient to disease, especially things like the flu. 
 

 

Perhaps.
 

My own experiences in Brazil, Uruguay, Mexico, or Honduras were a different spin on what you mentioned. I often found people there claimed being “healthy” but had various diseases, often derived from insects, but simply had learned to “live with it.” 
 

I went many times to the homes of people who had made homes in the city dump, out of trash, much like you had mentioned. Dengue, malaria, yellow fever and other mosquito derived diseases were often prevalent due to the trash homes not being properly sealed from the outside elements. The lack of nutrition due to not having sufficient food only exacerbated those conditions. 
 

And to be frank, I’m not convinced that the people in those conditions know the difference between having the flu, having dengue fever, or simply the effects of suffering from malnutrition. 

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