ThirdHour Political Leaning Questions


ThirdHour Political Leaning Questions  

27 members have voted

  1. 1. I would say that I align more politically with

    • Conservative
      14
    • More Conservative Than Liberal
      6
    • "Moderate"
      5
    • More Liberal Than Conservative
      1
    • Liberal
      1
  2. 2. Donald Trump is an honest President

    • True
      2
    • More True than False
      7
    • Indifferent
      5
    • More False than True
      4
    • False
      9
  3. 3. My religious beliefs have a significant influence on my political alignment

    • True
      17
    • More True than False
      6
    • Indifferent
      3
    • More False than True
      1
    • False
      0

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  • Poll closed on 05/04/20 at 05:59 AM

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At the national level, pretty much everyone is an idiot.

I do consider it my civil duty to vote, which usually goes to the person whom seems to be the lesser idiot / corrupt. 

I would love it if there was a way to simple vote for individual values / stances on specific issues.  Unfortunately, in the USA there is not.

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Hmmm. Despite my misgivings about this poll (and pollster), I went ahead and voted. Before I voted, "Donald Trump is an honest President" had zero "True" votes. After I voted, it had one. So I guess I trust the results of this poll about as much as I trust the poll itself (or the pollster).

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18 hours ago, EmotionalPomegranate said:

I was curious about the political inclinations of the members of ThirdHour.org

Well, I'm not left or right.  So, how am I supposed to answer the poll?

I'm more libertarian.  Some ways I'm liberal.  Some ways I'm conservative. However, I'm DEFINITELY not a moderate in anything.  But I'm ALWAYS a Latter-day Saint.

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16 hours ago, NeuroTypical said:

I think it's cool that all the respondents so far are solid conservatives who aren't that big a fan of Trump.

Music bands, sports teams... those have fans.  Presidents don't have fans, unless you're treating the Presidency as a music band or a sports team.  So, I guess that's good that nobody here are fans of Trump.

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3 hours ago, Carborendum said:

I'm more libertarian

My thoughts completely. I try to put the rights of the individual before everything-I'm not always logically consistent, but I try to be.   The problem with being logically consistent is that you come to conclusions you personally don't like.

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20 minutes ago, MormonGator said:

My thoughts completely. I try to put the rights of the individual before everything-I'm not always logically consistent, but I try to be.   The problem with being logically consistent is that you come to conclusions you personally don't like.

One challenge that should be put to every Supreme Court candidate from now on is, "Please name five instances in your prior appellate court (or whatever) rulings where you ruled against what you personally believe because the law demanded it."

By the way, this challenge alone would eliminate literally 95+% of Democrat-leaning nominees. As my law-school-student son tells me, literally the only law students who think about how to rule impartially based on the law rather than on what they personally want are the conservative students, a small (sometimes nonexistent) minority in most law schools.

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15 minutes ago, Vort said:

 are the conservative students, a small (sometimes nonexistent) minority in most law schools.

Try being a non-liberal who has his BA in English.

There are things that I find personally repulsive but I think should be legal-flag burning comes to mind. If it was up to me, I'd gleefully make it a crime. Same with gambling. I'd ban all forms of it from lottery tickets to casinos in an instant. 

But it is not up to me. 

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For you conservatives who think that Trump is utterly dishonest, you might want to reconsider whence you're getting your news. Agencies like wnd.com, thenewamerican.com, theepochtimes.com, washingtonexaminer.com, westernjournal.com, townhall.com, etc. are much more truthful, in my experience.

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17 hours ago, Br-Ahman said:

For you conservatives who think that Trump is utterly dishonest, you might want to reconsider whence you're getting your news. Agencies like wnd.com, thenewamerican.com, theepochtimes.com, washingtonexaminer.com, westernjournal.com, townhall.com, etc. are much more truthful, in my experience.

I'll give you a pro-tip.

In the information age, truthful is not independent of bias.  It can be, but finding journalism without bias in the information age is like finding a diamond in a sandpit (I only know of one such diamond in politics - Jamie Dupree).

So, when it comes to consumption of news, you will need to first determine the bias of such publication as well as the bias of the specific reporter.  Then you'll need to consume news stories from different sources with an open mind so you won't fall into the trap of confirmation bias.  From your selection above, I already know you are a conservative with confirmation bias consumption.

Here's an example: 

WND.com - is Joseph Farah's baby.  Farah is conservative and was a "the Clintons killed Vince Foster" guy.  WND has a heavy conservative bias.
I'm big on foreign policy (I'm Filipino) and I read a lot of Aaron Klein's articles on WND.  Aaron Klein is a Jew on the side of Netanyahu.  His articles have that bias.

The New American - is John Birch Society.  Even more right-leaning than WND.  Their news selection is heavily loaded with anti-Sanders-wing-of-the-Democrat-Party that I can petty much just look at the title of an article and know it's yellow journalism.

The Epoch Times - I read a lot of Epoch because they have good coverage of foreign policy.  I've been reading this paper practically since the time they started a few decades ago because they sell them at the Asian store (if I can snag the english version - usually they only have the chinese version).  Epoch Times is a publication owned by American Chinese that is anti-CCP.  The publication exhibits a strong anti-globalist anti-communist bias and is big on "western" values of Free Speech and Free Enterprise.  They are also big on anti-government corruption so when it comes to corruption intrigues in the political class, they are like dogs with a bone.  One thing about Epoch is - even though they unabashedley state their bias, they still tend to avoid yellow journalism even in their Youtube channel where most other biased publications usually title for clickbait.

And so on and so on...

So, in your selection above, you are leaning heavily right and wouldn't know it.

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18 hours ago, Br-Ahman said:

For you conservatives who think that Trump is utterly dishonest, you might want to reconsider whence you're getting your news.

P.S. When it comes to Trump... I don't trust ANY news source with it because... Trump is "OUT THERE".  You don't need any news agencies to know what Trump said and what Trump meant - you can just listen to all his public speeches, read his twitter, everything straight from the horse's mouth and make up your own mind about it.  I can pretty much tell where people get their "Trump stories" just by the way they characterize it - left or right.  You can usually find his unedited speeches on Youtube and, of course, his twitter is a treasure trove.

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21 hours ago, Vort said:

One challenge that should be put to every Supreme Court candidate from now on is, "Please name five instances in your prior appellate court (or whatever) rulings where you ruled against what you personally believe because the law demanded it."

By the way, this challenge alone would eliminate literally 95+% of Democrat-leaning nominees. As my law-school-student son tells me, literally the only law students who think about how to rule impartially based on the law rather than on what they personally want are the conservative students, a small (sometimes nonexistent) minority in most law schools.

If the Framers were really smart, they’d have included a constitutional provision that any law student who ever utters the phrase “change the world”, needs to be forever barred from the practice of law.

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34 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said:

If the Framers were really smart,

Yeah instead they just created the greatest country in the history of world. What a bunch of idiots. 

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4 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said:

Yeah, that was supposed to be tongue in cheek, but apparently it lost something in translation/transcription. ;) 

Understood. 

I remember reading somewhere that about 40% of the population wanted to remain loyal to the crown during the revolution. @Just_A_Guy, you were a young man during those times. Are those numbers correct? 

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2 minutes ago, MormonGator said:

Understood. 

I remember reading somewhere that about 40% of the population wanted to remain loyal to the crown during the revolution. @Just_A_Guy, you were a young man during those times. Are those numbers correct? 

As you’ll recall, I kept encouraging you to get out and take a poll yourself.  But you kept complaining of “rheumatism”.

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