Ironhold Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 https://apnews.com/bf685dcf52125be54e030834ab7062a8?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP The Department of Homeland Security is saying that China deliberately downplayed their response to COVID-19 so that they could hoard medical supplies. Given the severity of the charge, I'd say China has some explaining to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 Dang. I wonder how many people this killed. Thinking about what the world could have done differently, and even a 1 week head start in the urgency could have made quite a bit of difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmanuel Goldstein Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 China needs to be held accountable. It is time to cut them off from our trade and bring the CCP to it's knees. Vort and Midwest LDS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carborendum Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 On 5/3/2020 at 5:32 PM, Ironhold said: https://apnews.com/bf685dcf52125be54e030834ab7062a8?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP From the article. Quote Not classified but marked “for official use only,” the DHS analysis states that "FOUO" IS a type of classification of documents which require their use to have some restrictions. That said, I need to point out something from the perspective of someone who has no love for the Chinese government: What did they do wrong? The leaders of the country were taking measures to look out for their own people above the needs of people in other countries. Is that not what national leaders are supposed to be doing? mordorbund 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) The Chinese government is deeply corrupt. It cares nothing for the blood of its own people, nor (needless to say) that of anyone else. Thus, the Chinese make a convenient whipping boy for US politicians who want to dodge responsibility. Edited May 6, 2020 by Vort JohnsonJones, Midwest LDS, Carborendum and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmanuel Goldstein Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 5/6/2020 at 12:06 AM, Vort said: The Chinese government is deeply corrupt. It cares nothing for the blood of its own people, nor (needless to say) that of anyone else. Thus, the Chinese make a convenient whipping boy for US politicians who want to dodge responsibility. War will be the only resort when this is all over. Time to take them out, permanently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Emmanuel Goldstein said: War will be the only resort when this is all over. Time to take them out, permanently. Do you have any idea how many innocent lives will be lost if we entered into a war with China? Which, by the way, will never happen. Edited May 7, 2020 by MormonGator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmanuel Goldstein Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, MormonGator said: Do you have any idea how many innocent lives will be lost if we entered into a war with China? Which, by the way, will never happen. I am very aware. I am not in favor of it, but neither of us has any control over the inevitability of a war either. I am simply saying that this is going to be the end result and the only thing we can do is boost our food storage and spiritual preparedness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwest LDS Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 35 minutes ago, MormonGator said: Do you have any idea how many innocent lives will be lost if we entered into a war with China? Which, by the way, will never happen. The idea of a war between any nuclear armed nations is too horrifying to consider. God willing, and I mean that as a sincere prayer, it will never happen as the death toll would be nightmarish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Emmanuel Goldstein said: but neither of us has any control over the inevitability of a war either Oh yes we do. War is never inevitable. 2 minutes ago, Midwest LDS said: it will never happen as the death toll would be nightmarish. Unprecedented. It would quite literally be an "end of the world" scenario. I pray it never happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carborendum Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Midwest LDS said: The idea of a war between any nuclear armed nations is too horrifying to consider. God willing, and I mean that as a sincere prayer, it will never happen as the death toll would be nightmarish. War has already been waged between nuclear powered nations. They just saw the futility of actually using those nuclear arms in a war. So, conventional means continue. Edited May 7, 2020 by Carborendum Midwest LDS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwest LDS Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Carborendum said: War has already been waged between nuclear powered nations. They just saw the futility of actually using those nuclear arms in a war. So, conventional means continue. That's true (I assume you mean Pakistan and India). But there hasn't been a major conflict yet. The fighting was bad enough as it was I don't mean to downplay it. But neither Pakistan nor India was trying to completely defeat the other. No armies were marching towards Islamabad or New Delhi the fighting was all on the border. But it's still taking a risk. All it takes is one side making the wrong kind of mistake or having the wrong kind of arrogant leader in charge who thinks he's got a plan that's sure to work and mushrooms clouds could easily start appearing. Therefore I prefer no active conflict between nuclear armed foes (I know you aren't arguing for conflict either I'm just clarifying my point.) Edited May 7, 2020 by Midwest LDS Carborendum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 How will we finance our national debt if we try to hold China accountable for anything? The Traveler Carborendum and mordorbund 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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