Plandemic and 5G conspiracies and...


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"That's what the government WANTS you to think."  So, what if we turned it around?

 

"But the earth is flat."     --That's what the government WANTS you to think.

"I saw a UFO around Roswell."      --That's what the government WANTS you to think.

"The moon landing was faked."     --That's what the government WANTS you to think.

"5G gave us the coronavirus."        --That's what the government WANTS you to think.

"Obama was the greatest president EVER!!!"        --That's what the government WANTS you to think.

 

One of these things is not like the others.

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On 5/14/2020 at 9:45 PM, The Folk Prophet said:

...what in the world is going on?! The license to go crazy has gone mainstream.

Seriously. One of my closest friends for the last 20 years sent me the Plandemic video and when I didn't buy off on its full legitimacy immediately he flipped out and cut off our relationship for good. Is this what we're becoming?

I'm only trying to exert the smallest amount of moderation in my views. (Surprise, surprise, I can be moderate in some things.) But apparently any sort of moderation and hoping/waiting for facts is unacceptable any longer.

The kind of things I'm seeing people post on social media and believing whole-hog without evidence is...well, it's truly shocking.

I know there's evil in the world. I know there's evil in government. I know there's evil in big pharm. I know there's evil in capitalism. I know there's evil in socialism. I know there's evil pretty much everywhere. Does that mean I have to buy off on any youtube video that supports someone's particular narrative or I'm the bad guy? Sure...I'm concerned by these evils. I'm much more concerned by the evil that seems to be stewing and brewing in my friends, neighbors, and family. The hatred and bitterness I'm seeing from them on Facebook and the like. We're supposed to be followers of Christ. And we're supposed to be one in Him. We're not supposed to hate each other for not buying off on all the minutia of our particular extreme brand of political think.

Anyhow, I'm not really joining again here, but I do read, and thought the discussion of some of these conspiracies and the like would be interesting. So go for it.

I do believe that the students and disciples of Thomas Malthus have some really terrible plans for the majority of humans, (and also much cattle)... but...... I am truly optimistic that our prayers are being answered and Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is intervening in human affairs and defeating these really messed up and elitist people who have for centuries divided and conquered the majority of us.  

I am certain that serious steps toward longevity combined with shockingly good health are going to be made and I am of the belief that you Latter day Saints are going to work with Jewish and Israeli scholars, mystics, engineers, scientists and educators to take a major leadership role in the transition to a vastly better world that will fit with the predictions of Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and the minor prophets.

"Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:

And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand." (Ezekiel 37:16, 17)

 

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On 5/18/2020 at 8:36 PM, Jedi_Nephite said:

I think there is much plausibility to the claims made in the Plandemic video. You have to do some due diligence to verify Judy Mikovits’ claims, but it is there. One has to wonder, why Would YouTube and Facebook go to such great lengths to have this video removed, unless there was some truth to it? There is plenty of garbage on YouTube and Facebook, but they consider this enough of a threat to have it removed? It doesn’t make sense.

However, whether or not you believe the claims made in the video, it doesn’t take a conspiracy theorist to realize that something doesn’t add up here. This whole COVID-19 ordeal, and the government’s reaction to it, has never made any sense. Since when do we quarantine healthy people? And since when do we shutdown the economy, especially for months at a time? It’s unprecedented, unconstitutional, un-American, and just plain idiotic.

 

But.... .on the plus side.....  this all seems to fit with:

"Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse." (Malachi 4:5,6)

 

Near death experiencer and former Atheist Howard Storm was shown what God wanted this world to be like by the year 2185:

https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/howard-storm.html#a04

 

 

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When I spoke with them about the future, and this might sound like a cop-out on my part, they made clear to me that we have free will.

 

If we change the way we are, then we can change the future which they showed me. They showed me a view of the future, at the time of my experience, based upon how we in the United States were behaving at that time. It was a future in which a massive worldwide depression would occur. If we were to change our behavior, however, then the future would be different.

 

Asking them how it would be possible to change the course of many people, I observed that it was difficult, if not impossible, to change anything on Earth. I expressed the opinion that it was a hopeless task to try.

 

My friends explained, quite clearly, that all it takes to make a change was one person. One person, trying, and then because of that, another person changing for the better. They said that the only way to change the world was to begin with one person. One will become two, which will become three, and so on. That's the only way to affect a major change.
 
I inquired as to where the world would be going in an optimistic future one where some of the changes they desired were to take place.

 

The image of the future that they gave me then, and it was their image, not one that I created, surprised me. My image had previously been sort of like Star Wars, where everything was space age, plastics, and technology.

 

The future that they showed me was almost no technology at all. What everybody, absolutely everybody, in this euphoric future spent most of their time doing was raising children. The chief concern of people was children, and everybody considered children to be the most precious commodity in the world.

 

And when a person became an adult, there was no sense of anxiety, nor hatred, nor competition.

 

There was this enormous sense of trust and mutual respect. If a person, in this view of the future, became disturbed, then the community of people all cared about the disturbed person falling away from the harmony of the group. Spiritually, through prayer and love, the others would elevate the afflicted person.

 

What people did with the rest of their time was that they gardened, with almost no physical effort. They showed me that plants, with prayer, would produce huge fruits and vegetables.

 

People, in unison, could control the climate of the planet through prayer. Everybody would work with mutual trust and the people would call the rain, when needed, and the sun to shine.

 

Animals lived with people, in harmony.

 

 

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On 5/18/2020 at 8:42 PM, MormonGator said:

I had a philosophy teacher tell us once "I can come up with a theory that says we were all created five minutes ago with wrinkles on our faces, food in our stomachs, and memories from events that never happened. And people would believe it." 

Actually.... Multiverse Theory / non-linear time and multiple fulfillments of Ezekiel 37 would fit with that basic idea rather nicely.  

The Ezekiel 37 resurrection and a major fulfillment of the White Throne resurrection of Revelation 20.... .could take place five minutes ago.... and you and I would not necessarily have any idea that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus just began a whole time line in which more of the Holy Spirit is poured out..... .than in any other previous time line.......

The goal.....  mostly to lead people to salvation who ended up generally lost in previous time lines.......

 

 

Your doctrine of Multiple Mortal Probations would also fit nicely with this idea.....

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On 5/19/2020 at 12:08 PM, anatess2 said:

Add to that the information superhighway and we just now created the design template for how to imprison people in their own homes...

It's great to realize that Americans can mouth liberty all they want but they'll give it up that easily.

That is true.....

but if we will have a greater level of faith Messiah Yeshua - Jesus will lead us to cooperate more and use all of this as an open door to 

all the nations of the world.

 

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The Father said to me one evening in my time of meditation, “You wonder that people other than the Jews have the secrets of the Kingdom as well as you. As you have been instructed before, the secrets of the Kingdom have been given to many people, but to no one in their complete form, so that each, seeking in their own way, may gradually come closer to me, but no one group can say, ‘I have the secret and you are excluded.’ Indeed, any who say that, have already put themselves outside of the Kingdom, because the King­dom comes by Love, and Love is a working together. Love is not exclusively for one group.”

            “In the end of the Age, peoples from all parts of the earth will bring their knowledge together and will find the Inner Way to me by working together. So, read and know what has been given to others, that your knowledge may be complete and you may be able to come to Me, all working together in Love.”(Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D.,
 

 

 

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On 5/26/2020 at 6:59 AM, DennisTate said:

There was this enormous sense of trust and mutual respect. If a person, in this view of the future, became disturbed, then the community of people all cared about the disturbed person falling away from the harmony of the group. Spiritually, through prayer and love, the others would elevate the afflicted person.

What people did with the rest of their time was that they gardened, with almost no physical effort. They showed me that plants, with prayer, would produce huge fruits and vegetables.

I believe this is what it will be like after the LORD comes again on this Earth during His millennium reign.  It's too bad I might not live to see it in this life.  This is likely what it was partially like during the 200 years after Christ's visit to the people in the Americas.  They implemented the teachings of the LORD, lifted each other up, built many great things, helped and loved one another.  It would have been amazing to live during those days in the past or with the people of Enoch.  The people of Melchizedek would have been a great people to dwell with as well.

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