anatess2 Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Colirio said: ob·jec·tive·ly /əbˈjektivlē,äbˈjektivlē/ adverb adverb: objectively in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions Are you trying to tell me that the majority of people aren’t politically influenced by their personal feelings and opinions? In many ways, politics has become a team sport, cheering for the home team while hissing at the opposition. Majority of people are politically influenced by what they think they can get out of it. Therefore, they can objectively see the response to CHAZ as a failed construct but see no reason to change their vote when they have gotten schools to teach kindergartner kids about Adam and Steve. Edited June 17, 2020 by anatess2 Still_Small_Voice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/16/2020 at 4:04 PM, MormonGator said: On 6/16/2020 at 3:33 PM, Colirio said: In many ways, politics has become a team sport, cheering for the home team while hissing at the opposition. Perfectly said. It's always been like this to some degree, sadly. Indeed. I always have to chuckle when people tell me this is some new thing. My favorite quote from our second president, John Adams, speaking about Alexander Hamilton (the guy on our $10 bills): Quote What a pity it is that our Congress had not known ... that Alexander Hamiltons project ... arose from a superabundance of secretions which he could not find Whores enough to draw off? and that the Same Vapours produced his Lyes and Slanders by which he totally destroyed his party forever and finally lost his Life in the field of honor. Think about the last ten things you've heard people yell about Trump's relationships with women. Same stuff, different century. Midwest LDS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_A_Guy Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 31 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said: Indeed. I always have to chuckle when people tell me this is some new thing. My favorite quote from our second president, John Adams, speaking about Alexander Hamilton (the guy on our $10 bills): Think about the last ten things you've heard people yell about Trump's relationships with women. Same stuff, different century. In Adams’s defense, Hamilton had some sleazy qualities and, towards the end of his life, was becoming positively dangerous. Midwest LDS, Carborendum and NeuroTypical 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, NeuroTypical said: I always have to chuckle when people tell me this is some new thing. But...but...the good old days @NeuroTypical!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carborendum Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, NeuroTypical said: Think about the last ten things you've heard people yell about Trump's relationships with women. Same stuff, different century. Adams was right about Hamilton. I don't doubt that a lot of it is also true about Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Carborendum said: Adams was right about Hamilton. I don't doubt that a lot of it is also true about Trump. The problem I have with Trump is that he makes himself out to be virtuous and noble. I have no problem with scumbags who admit they are scumbags. I have a problem with scumbags who think they are wonderful people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anatess2 Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, MormonGator said: The problem I have with Trump is that he makes himself out to be virtuous and noble. I have no problem with scumbags who admit they are scumbags. I have a problem with scumbags who think they are wonderful people. Good think you're not an influencer. You prattle nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carborendum Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 42 minutes ago, anatess2 said: Good think you're not an influencer. You prattle nonsense. No, I think it is fairly accurate. But that's not the whole story. The thing is that Trump just has a different set of values. And he's perfectly happy with his set of values. And by HIS set of values, I guess he measures up. I certainly disagree that he is the paragon of virtue that we should all aspire to (stifling the eye-roll). But it's pretty clear that HE thinks he is. (coughing expletives). Midwest LDS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anatess2 Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Carborendum said: No, I think it is fairly accurate. But that's not the whole story. The thing is that Trump just has a different set of values. And he's perfectly happy with his set of values. And by HIS set of values, I guess he measures up. I certainly disagree that he is the paragon of virtue that we should all aspire to (stifling the eye-roll). But it's pretty clear that HE thinks he is. (coughing expletives). I have never heard Trump state that we should emulate him or that he's a paragon of virtue. He has the bombastic, superlative, unapologetic manner of speaking and attitude. That is a presentation style. Not a declaration of virtues. Edited June 18, 2020 by anatess2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 Bigly. Carborendum and anatess2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carborendum Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 43 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said: Bigly. Tremendous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 Can't say I'm surprised. "Officers attempted to locate a shooting victim but were met by a violent crowd that prevented officers safe access to the victims. Officers were later informed that the victims, both males, had been transported to Harborview Medical Center by CHOP “medics”." https://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2020/06/20/homicide-investigation-inside-protest-area/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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