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2 hours ago, Emmanuel Goldstein said:

The only problem I see is the Vaccine will not happen, because they have never created a vaccine for a Covid virus. This is like trying to create a cold vaccine.

Just like they never split the atom until they split the atom.

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A similar sentiment could be seen towards polio in the early to mid twentieth century.  There was a great amount of fear among people regarding their children and polio.  It had spurts and waves where it would come and go, but it was a DEADLY disease.  There were many children and adults that survived it, but the scars it left in it's wake were real and horrible.

Then came the vaccine.  The first vaccine actually had some terrible problems (some kids got polio from the vaccine itself...I think they accidentally used a live virus or something like that).  However, the second go around came and most children were forced to take it (via sugar cube). 

This meant that there was no need to "flatten the curve."  It didn't mean you were destined to get it or that you were going to get it.  Once the vaccine was out, and once we all got the vaccine...we never had to worry about polio or going to the hospital or suffering from it.  IN fact, BECAUSE of the vaccine, today, millions of people not only never got  polio, they never had to worry about getting it in the first place.

When a vaccine comes, it isn't about flattening a curve or that everyone will get it.  That's dumb.  A vaccine is made to prevent people from developing the full scale symptoms of the disease.  If a vaccine comes fast enough, it means that there will be those who never get the disease and never have to worry about getting it (hopefully).

This is why the vaccine is so important. 

There was no polio vaccine before it finally came out.  When it finally was created, it saved thousands (probably more) of lives.

An item similar to covid, but that mutates far more often and thus is harder to make a vaccine for is the flu virus.  Once seen as far more elusive than even the cold virus, efforts were put into finding a vaccine because it was far deadlier than most colds (deadliness and other factors go into determining where money and time goes in researching vaccines, and frankly, colds are not as deadly as many other diseases).  They found a way to make vaccines (though, because of how fast it mutates, and how many strains there are, it is difficult to make a vaccine for every strain, so they try to predict which strains will be prevalent in the upcoming year and make vaccines for those).  Now that they know how to make the flu vaccine, making a new vaccine (for a new strain) is a matter of weeks to months rather than years or decades.  They literally can make vaccines extremely quickly.

Other viruses mutate even more quickly than the Flu (HIV comes to mind, as soon as they get a treatment, it seems it mutates to negate that treatment.  I know that for medical staff they actually have a way to prevent it with around a 50/50 chance from what I hear, if that individual is treated within an hour of possible infection).

COVID on the otherhand does NOT mutate as quickly as most other viruses.  In fact, this current strain is still within the confines of it's strain (though there are different variants of it).  While a Flu virus would have mutated into several strains at this point, Covid-19 has largely stayed intact.  This is because Coronaviruses do not mutate that quickly.  This makes finding a vaccine easier.

In addition, the vaccines coming out today were not created in as short a time as some of the press would have you believe.  Many were started years ago.  This COVID-19 is actually also known as SARS2.  This should sound familiar because a few years ago another virus that was called SARS came out.  It was far more deadly and because it was more deadly, it killed the host far more quickly.  With many of the obstacles put into place to stop it's spread (many of these obstacles were done away with under Trump interestingly enough, which could indicate we may have had an epidemic of the same scale we have today if Trump had been in charge back then), and the speed with which it killed it's host, it did not spread that far or that quickly.  Still, it created alarm in the medical community and research was started to try to find ways to treat or to vaccinate against it, especially as it has always been simmering in the background with the threat to rise again.  It is THIS research that had already progressed along in the creation of Coronavirus vaccines that is being utilized today.  With it, is a simulated agent which creates the forms of the Virus, but without using the virus itself.  This can be recreated via RNA structuring or other methods created in their research for the original SARS virus.  As this strain is very similar, the research (just like with the flu virus and it's strains) is easily adaptable and thus converted.  With the urgency (and now time and money, more time and money is being spent on research on this vaccine than many realize, what has been done thus far would equate to normally decades of time and money, spent in a short time while putting on hold most other projects) to find a vaccine, it has been progressing at a massive amount of speed.

The biggest question I think for those of us who know about it, is whether this will be like the first Polio vaccine or not (the first vaccine was deadly to many).  That said, I still plan on getting the vaccine if/or when it comes out (and there is no guarantee that we will have a vaccine, there are those that show promise, but none that have been produced as viable yet until the research is completed).

Edited by JohnsonJones

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8 minutes ago, Traveler said:

@JohnsonJones - Before I will even think about getting a vaccine for COVID-18 -- I want to know, for certain, if I have already had it or not!

 

The Traveler

I agree!  That would be REALLY REALLY nice to know.

 

PS: I meant, for me also to know if I had it as well...not just you.

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On 7/31/2020 at 12:15 PM, Jamie123 said:

Just like they never split the atom until they split the atom.

What I'm saying is, don't hold your breath for a vaccine that works well. Vaccines can take up to ten years before they are ready, and there is nothing to suggest they will succeed with this one either.

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