The Crumbling Institution of Marriage

[Still_Small_Voice]

I watched this video and was saddened and appalled at American society and many other societies.  It's no wonder America is falling apart with women and men refusing to marry and raise children for selfish reasons.  Many men just want to casually date and be whoremongers and the same attitude is growing in many women.  Watch the video below.  It begins at about three minutes and thirty seconds where he begins to talk about marriage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5TuV1OrG8A

[Backroads]

That was a fascinating and yes depressing video. The world has become selfish in such regards.

[Still_Small_Voice]

Satan is being very successful in convincing many of the children of men that selfishness, whoremongering and homosexuality are preferable to marriage.  The natural man and woman are an enemy to God and incompatible in marriage.  They will tear a marriage relationship apart with their selfish and sinful nature.

A good marriage is between a man, and woman and the LORD.

[Carborendum]

All of a sudden, Isaiah's words have meaning even in the SJW women's rights society.

[Backroads]

A tangent, but another notion I see being batted around more frequently is the dissolution of the family. I think Black Lives Matter brought it out into the discussion a bit more with a goal to make more common a more community-based raising of children. Now, I believe in the power of extended families and the proverbial village, but as extensions of the family unit, not a replacement. 

I was discussing elsewhere just yesterday the notion that I've seen from a few people that childraising and homemaking need to be given to "lower class" people, women who aren't educated enough to do other things. I've seen people ponder some scary utopia of children being raised in institutions... and these people think it's such a great idea.

Yeah, we're heading for Brave New World.

[scottyg]

The video is sad, but true. Although there are some flawed ideas, I agree with most of the points made in the video. This stuff may not be seen as much in the church due to our culture, but outside of our "bubble" it really is, and many of the things the world values are seeping more and more into the belief systems of LDS youth.

I work in healthcare, and 90% of my co-workers are female. Many women that I work with put off marriage in pursuit of other interests, such as education (something men have been counseled for over a hundred years now not to do). Then, once these women have their degree and are making good money, they want to advance further in their careers. Serious relationships are put on hold. When it comes time to truly date seriously, many (not all) of them do not want to be in a relationship with a man perceived as "lower" than them, even if that man truly loves her. He could have a steady job, but since he is blue collar with no formal degree, he doesn't measure up. She gets upset because she is putting more into the relationship from a money point of view. She places the standard out of reach, and misses out on a real relationship. Once these women start to reach their late 30's early 40's, and learn that their opportunities to be a mother are dwindling they refuse to accept responsibility for their behavior, and shift the blame onto men, labeling them as being lazy and narcissistic, intimidated for not wanting an "educated woman", or for not being ambitious enough. In reality, these women will over time get less and less interest not only because of their poor attitudes, but because the dating pool of good men simply want a younger woman who can have more children, stay at home to raise them, and who isn't worried about only herself. Men (and women) just like to be appreciated, and many of the well-to-do women I work with never appreciated their boyfriends or now ex-husbands.

Women are not the only offenders. Many men are now growing up believing that marriage is not actually worth it to them in the long run, as many feminists have poisoned their minds. I work with a few guys who say they will never get married for a myriad of reasons: it is too expensive, they can't trust women, they are set in their ways, they like their freedom, etc... In reality, they are getting all of the things they "want" from fast food, video games, and internet porn. Some of them still live in their parent's basements because the easiness of the world allows them to; and to the women's point, they have no real ambition...because they don't need it to survive anymore. Some men are afraid of the world, and are content just surviving. Basically, both sides are just being too selfish.

Edited January 5, 2021 by scottyg
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[Jamie123]

I only watched half this video so far, but I can't help being reminded of Huxley's "Brave New World" - where "everybody belongs to everybody" - you get to have sex with whoever you want and if you decide you don't like him/her after all you just move on to someone else. No family ties - babies are mass produced, "decanted" out of test tubes and, "mother" and "father" are cuss words. Brilliant book, but I hope it doesn't come any truer than it is already!

Edited January 5, 2021 by Jamie123

[NeuroTypical]

A thing to keep in mind:  No matter what various trends and percentages say about the institution of marriage in the US and other 1st world countries, we still get to choose our path, and raise our kids.  Even with our temples dotting hillsides everywhere, and our robust missionary programs, we're about 2% of the US population.  We still get to be us, getting sealed in temples, even if the other 98% go full-on genderfluid nonbinary rainbownormative.  

The more threads like this, the more obvious it becomes why our leaders started yelling loudly about preserving our religious liberties like five years ago.

[Jamie123]

Another thing just popped into my head: there's a female counterpart to all of this. I remember years ago a documentary about " weddings for one" in Japan, for career women who can't be bothered to have a husband, but who nevertheless want a wedding. You get to wear a wedding dress and photos and have a big party with all your friends, and then you get to go back to your old single life after.

[Just_A_Guy]

On 1/4/2021 at 6:24 PM, NeuroTypical said:

A thing to keep in mind:  No matter what various trends and percentages say about the institution of marriage in the US and other 1st world countries, we still get to choose our path, and raise our kids.  Even with our temples dotting hillsides everywhere, and our robust missionary programs, we're about 2% of the US population.  We still get to be us, getting sealed in temples, even if the other 98% go full-on genderfluid nonbinary rainbownormative.  

The more threads like this, the more obvious it becomes why our leaders started yelling loudly about preserving our religious liberties like five years ago.

One of the interesting things about The Handmaiden’s Tale (as I understand it based on online summaries, not having read/watched it myself) is that the dysfunctional society envisioned therein isn’t the result of a desire to subjugate women per se.  It’s the result of a scarcity, and therefore the commoditization, of children.

The silver lining here is that within a few years, the average American won’t have enough testosterone to subjugate anything less cooperative than a soy latte.

Edited January 6, 2021 by Just_A_Guy