Morningstar yeah i know her job is hard and i am constantly trying to get her to find a hobbie. on weekends we both get up her on sat. me on sunday. but i will have to try getting out with the kids so she can get some things done. and i am willing to try reading the book and i know my wife will also. as for kids I have a son 1 1/2 and a daughter 3 1/2 they are good kids and of course tireing i get home and i know her job is hard but she does get a chance to sit down and relax during the day where i don't, but she seems to think that hers is worse. I know mentally kids are more tireing but physically myjob is more tiring and a lot more stressful because my work is not something i love where even though kids are tough its a job of love so the stress while still there is completly different. Ty for the suggestions