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  1. 11 points
    I had an amazing experience this evening brothers and sisters. My younger sister asked me to give her a blessing. While what I said was for her ears alone, I was covered in the Holy Ghost while I was speaking to her. I've given many blessings in my life, but this one was a very special one. I knew I was speaking for God. I've always taken my blessings seriously, and have tried to feel inspired and I believe that I said what God wanted me too. But this time, like only a handful of other times in my life, I literally felt the power of the Holy Ghost descend upon me, almost like a light blanket although that description is inadequate. The holy Melchesidek priesthood is real. God has restored it through Joseph Smith, and it's power comes from our Saviour Jesus Christ. I just wanted to share that with you all this evening.
  2. 10 points
    I'm about to describe an interesting metaphor that I discovered from a recent experience over the weekend. I'm fairly certain the @mikbone will find it amusing. I've recently had a medical procedure. It isn't serious. But... the doctor gave me a very powerful painkiller during recovery. They warned me that I should not take it until the pain gets really bad, because it is very powerful and can lead to addiction. I was really wondering why they would give this warning to me because 1) I didn't expect there to be much pain given the procedure I had. And 2) duh-uh, all painkillers have that tendency. Well, I found out soon enough that I would indeed need the painkiller. It was a LOT worse than I had anticipated, due to a complication that the doctor had foreseen, but I had not. I had to look up this painkiller and found that it is a very powerful opiate -- one I'd never heard of -- in fact, I'd bet that it would not be the top three opiates that Mikbone would guess. I also found out that it is very addictive. What was curious was that I also experienced several side-effects (which were all listed in the drug description). Usually, drugs take about 45 minutes to affect me. But this started working at around 25 to 30 minutes. As thrilled as I was that the pain was gone, I felt no elation. I felt no "high" that others seem to. Instead, I felt dizziness, nausea, vertigo, and other similar effects that I can't quite describe. Other effects combined to make my experience... hmmm... "miserable beyond all reason"... yeah that's it. I ended up proclaiming to my family,"How on earth to people get addicted to this stuff!?! This is HORRIBLE! Why would anyone want to live like this?" I seriously considered just living with the pain rather than go through with this again. Nope. No danger of me being addicted. The next day, I chose to not take any more... until the pain came back. And it was bad. So, I took a pill. This was generally taken every four hours (per the prescription). But I only took two the entire first 24 hours. Then one on the second day. The third day, the pain was not as bad. So, I didn't take one until bedtime when I realized I'd be lying in bed, so the dizziness, etc. wouldn't affect me as much. I'm now in day four. Pain is less. I'm NOT taking another pill tonight. I'm hoping I'll just sleep through the pain. We'll see. But it's pretty clear, I'm not going to want to keep taking this stuff since it seems I'm healing properly and the pain is less and less. But this made me realize something. There are some people who have tendencies to sin in one way. Others have tendencies to sin in other ways. And we all have a tough time with our own "pet sins". Yet it is so easy for us judge others and wonder "why would people get taken in by this?" But then we're taken in by other sins simply because we're just built that way physically, spiritually, emotionally, psychologically, socially... It made me wonder about how much "better" I think myself to be just because "I sin differently than others". I know that has been said more than a few times on these forums. But it really hit home through this experience.
  3. 9 points
    Whoa.,. this is gonna be tough... I can’t argue with @JohnsonJones anymore! Tacloban Mission. That city that got wiped out by a typhoon a few years ago. He leaves in January.
  4. 8 points
    The story goes that Thomas Moore, the famous 19th-century Irish poet and composer, married a beautiful woman named Elizabeth who contracted smallpox. She survived the dread disease, but as was common with smallpox survivors, was left badly scarred. She subsequently locked herself in her room, refusing to come out for shame of her face being so disfigured. Thomas then wrote this poem to reassure her. I hope the story is true; it's a nice story, in any case. This is one of a few poems I have actually bothered to commit to memory. Believe me, if all those endearing young charms Which I gaze on so fondly today Were to change by tomorrow and fleet in mine arms, Like fairy gifts fading away, Thou wouldst still be ador'd as this moment thou art, Let thy loveliness fade as it will; And around the dear ruin, each wish of my heart Would entwine itself verdantly still. It is not while beauty and youth are thine own And thy cheeks unprofan'd by a tear That the fervor and faith of a soul can be known To which time will but make thee more dear. No, the heart that has truly lov'd never forgets, But as truly loves on to the close As the sunflower turns on her god, when he sets, The same look which she turned when he rose. (For those my age or older, this might seem familiar if you hear the tune the song has traditionally been set to. Think Saturday morning cartoons.)
  5. 7 points
    Sorry to pick at a nit and risk distracting from your post topic, but I want to mention that Jesus never said to the woman taken in adultery, "I forgive you." What he said was, "Neither do I condemn you." Very different. This life is our time to prepare to meet God. It's not a time for condemnation, even by God. His hand of mercy is ever extended toward us. But we mistake God's lack of immediate condemnation as forgiveness at our own deep peril. Repentance, and only repentance, brings forgiveness. The Lord says to each of us, "Neither do I condemn you," but always includes the addendum, "Sin no more." As was true with the woman taken in adultery, so the same is true for us. God withholds, at least temporarily, his condemnation, so that we have a space of time to repent. But our condemnation is not withheld permanently. We must take advantage of this period that we have been given to choose righteousness and life over misery and death. If the woman taken in adultery did not heed the Master's command to "sin no more", it is guaranteed that her condemnation eventually came upon her in full force.
  6. 6 points
    prisonchaplain

    What LGBTQ+ hath wrot

    This seems as good a place as any to throw out my semi-related theory on just what happened in the U.S. How is it that 2/3rds opposition to gay marriage became 2/3rds support (thus, according to OP, leading to things like supervisors seducing young staff into joining a throuple)? My sense is that those who flipped from opposed to supportive are conservative in the law & order & stability vein. So, once SCOTUS said that gay marriage was a basic human right, allegedly assured in the U.S. Constitution, then a good number of opponents shifted to the new social consensus. If the highest court says this is the way it is then this is the way it is. These are the same ones that say, "Just bake the cake." They are also the ones who opposed Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, because he violated the law (Jim Crow laws banning People of Color from sitting in White-designated areas). This dilemma will not be resolved by conservatism or liberalism. What we need is, "Thus sayeth the LORD..."
  7. 6 points
    Mores

    Ceasefire in Turkey-Syria

    Did you get a load of what Romney said about the cease-fire? Sheesh! I used to like Romney. I was still suspicious of him politically. So, I didn't vote for him. But I thought that he was probably a decent guy. He's someone I wouldn't mind hanging out with or working with. Lately, I've decided that the more I hear him speak on political matters, I'm seeing more of Romney, the person... and as such, I'm getting to like him less and less.
  8. 6 points
    Here is what I found: 1) The church does not oppose banning conversion therapy, the mention explicitly that many forms of conversion therapy are extremely harmful and that the church does not practice such things. The following is a direct quote from the letter: "Family Services has a longstanding and express policy against using therapies that seek to "repair," "convert," or "change" sexual orientation, such as from homosexual to heterosexual. Research demonstrates that electric shock, aversion, and other analogous therapies are both ineffective and harmful to youth who experience same-sex attraction. Those, including youth, who seek therapies that constitute sexual orientation change efforts will not receive them from FS counselors. Instead, FS counselors assist youth clients in understanding sexual orientation issues in the context of their families and social networks, their expressed religious identity, and their self-determined personal goals, including those pe1iaining to their faith. Gender identity. While many issues of gender identity are not well understood, FS counselors do not provide therapies designed to change a client' s established gender identity. FS counselors assist youth clients in understanding gender identity issues, including gender dysphoria, in the context of their families and social networks, their expressed religious identity, and their self-determined personal goals, including those pertaining to their faith. FS counselors assist young children in healthy identity exploration and development. They also help parents of young children in understanding gender identity and gender dysphoria issues experienced by their children so they can appropriately assist their children in their identity exploration and development. Family Services supports the ability of other responsible practitioners to provide ethical treatments... " 2) The proposed bill, as it stands, will protect youth (age 17 and younger) who experience same-sex attraction and gender dysphoria from incredibly harmful conversion therapy techniques. But it will ALSO prevent those same youth that ALSO wants to continue living the gospel as taught by the church from receiving professional help. They would be stuck receiving guidance from Bishops and parents (which we can all agree is far from ideal). The following is quoted from the letter from the LDSFS. 3) The LDSFS has positive feelings toward the anti conversion therapy law that was proposed earlier this year. The letter says "HB 399 represents a good-faith effort to grapple with some of the fine distinctions that must be drawn. We are confident that additional discussion among stakeholders and the people' s representatives in the Legislature can produce a workable legislative solution that addresses many of the concerns raised here. 4) The church is in favor of putting this bill through the legistlation to get it passed. The letter says "With respect, the Governor and DOPL should allow the Legislature to perform its constitutional function in this important policy matter." 5) Lastly, here is what the church proposes the changes should be: "If DOPL is not convinced to leave the issue of conversion therapy to the Legislature, it should amend the Proposed Rule to clarify that each of the following practices does not fall within the definition of sexual orientation or gender identity "change efforts": * Therapies that assist a client in achieving the client's self-determined goal to modify or cease behaviors or expressions that the client determines are inconsistent with the client's values, or that are objectively dysfunctional or destructive. (ie allow therapists to assist youth in living the gospel dispite their homosexual / gender dysphoria) * Therapies that address premarital, extramarital, irresponsible, abusive, or predatory sexual activities. (ia including discussions about the Law of Chastity in therapy sessions) * Therapies that discuss the client' s moral or religious beliefs or practices. * Therapies that account for the client's capacity for sexual fluidity. (ie Discussing the potentiality of a shift in their sexuality) * Therapies that explore other psychological conditions as potential contributors to reported gender dysphoria. (ie suggesting that in some cases, they are not "born" that way) * Therapies that account for gender fluidity in children or for the likelihood that gender confusion or dysphoria in prepubescent children will desist without the need for medical interventions, including therapies that encourage a wait-and-see approach. (ie suggesting that these feelings of gender dysphoria may just be a phase of exploration and that they will cease. * Therapies that explore factors associated with sudden onset gender dysphoria. * Non-coercive, age-appropriate therapies that seek to assist a client in resolving gender dysphoria without the need for medical interventions, including counseling with parents about appropriate ways to facilitate identity exploration and development." Ultimately, the church wants to allow the youth to decide what kind of therapy they want to pursue and not be forced down the path of living a homosexual/transgender life as pushed by the current standing of this rule. If you want the truth, go to the source. If you want your narrative, find a website (or many) that supports it.
  9. 6 points
    So to summarize... The legislature did not pass the law.. Being pressured to do "Something" rules and regulation are proposed. The church's mental health experts review the proposals... and find a small subset of the rules that are not supported by Science. They point them out and recommend that they be altered or changed to match current scientific understanding. The church is called hateful, and accused of supporting barbaric practices and killing youth. It is really not that hard to see what is really happening here.
  10. 5 points
    Mores

    Where is Carborendum?

    It was bound to happen... I just met Carborendum. When I met a Korean who avoided coffee, I had to ask. Yup. It was him. And you're right... philosophically, he and I are virtual twins. Of course, I'm much better looking. He says "Hi".
  11. 5 points
    The woman that had an issue of blood for 12 years, the man blind from birth, the man crippled from birth, Zion taken up in process of time, Lehi's and Moses' sojourns in the wilderness, Paul's thorn in the flesh... there are many, many and these are just coming to mind in a matter of seconds. I'm sure I can find many others if I thought about and researched it. Hang in there! The Nephites had to wait a year after the great destruction before the Lord visited them.
  12. 5 points
    anatess2

    I am an LDS Card Counter.

    My sins don't get wiped just because somebody else sins more than me.
  13. 5 points
    Well, I'm impressed too, but I still think the Lord doesn't want you to gamble. Casino gambling is just institutionalized preying on the weak and vulnerable, a legal business that exploits a vice. Like running a liquor store (or a whorehouse in Nevada where it's legal). So you've got a system because of a handy neurodivergent quirk. Legal doesn't mean moral. Can doesn't mean should. The fact that some LDS folks are crooks, doesn't mean legal gambling is ok. But yeah, the ability is still pretty impressive.
  14. 5 points
    Why not both? Our leaders tell us that the process of the brethren unifying behind something, whether it becomes revelation or policy, starts with a lot of study and prayer, then a lot of discussion, sometimes argument. Not that much of a stretch to think the brethren started with a bunch of legal and insurance analysis by lawyers and risk managers, throw in scriptural analysis, prayer, discussion, arguments, and eventually the minds of the brethren, led by the spirit after all that study and work, aligned on what we now see as a revised policy? That's what I was going to say. I'd mentioned before that I've prayed about the new policy. And I've personally gotten confirmation that it is inspired. (Not that this means everyone ought to believe my personal revelation.) I guess that makes me the mirror image of MoE. I disliked with the policy. But I DO believe it is inspired. Elder Bednar actually answered this question. He specifically talked about some advice your mother gave you that was a pearl of wisdom. And at the moment when you needed it for an important decision, it came up in your mind. Was it your mother's advice or was it the Spirit? His answer: Why can't it be both? If it is a wise decision overall, then it would be the decision that the Lord would want you to make. I guess people have the tendency to believe that "inspiration" is only the type where God is sitting on His throne and decides which prayer he's going to answer that day and specially pushes a button that dispenses an instruction to follow a certain route. While it CAN happen that way, I don't believe it happens that way for the vast majority of the time. I tend to think of inspiration more like sunlight. The power of truth and wisdom is always present. It is only a question of whether we'll focus on feeling the sun's warmth and/or looking for the light.
  15. 5 points
    Vort

    Adam and Eve's purpose

    The short answer: We don't know. The slightly longer answer: Our prophets and apostles have taught us that Adam and Eve were unable to conceive and produce children while in the garden of Eden, though we do not know the reason why this was so. There has long been a belief in Christianity that "the forbidden fruit" was a euphemism for sex. Our leaders have explicitly taught us that this is not the case; whatever the forbidden fruit was, it wasn't sexual experience. Adam and Eve were married by God, so sex could not have been forbidden.
  16. 5 points
    Maybe a difference between you and me: My biggie repentance event was preceded with years of believing I was evil and doomed and horrible and a bad person, unworthy of love, who would be righteously rejected by all the good or smart people. I didn't believe I had done wrong, I believed I had no value, that I WAS wrong. Compared to the pain of internalizing that lie for so long, the short-term uncomfortableness of discussing some stuff I used to do but hadn't for years, then going through a quick process of renouncing and changing my walk, followed by being forgiven/redeemed/cleansed? Accompanied with the revealed truth that I was indeed a loved son of God, inheritor of a divine birthright, a good person? Forgive me while I jump for joy. I have to jump, in order to keep my heart inside me, because it's leaping for joy whether I go with it or not.
  17. 5 points
    This quote made me facepalm pretty hard. "Yes, we do all have freedom of speech, but at times there are ramifications for the negative that can happen when you're not thinking about others and you're only thinking about yourself." Morey is the only person who was NOT acting out of self-interest in this situation. I have a lot of respect for LBJ, but he's way off base here.
  18. 4 points
    estradling75

    Ceasefire in Turkey-Syria

    Indeed. The President is the Commander in Chief... The vision, purpose and goals have to come from him. So if someone wants to give the President (Obama or Trump) the credit for taking out a terrorist leader... I have no problem with that. I also know that the President has to be an IDEA guy... It takes alot of work to translate ideas into workable plans... and it ultimately takes boots on the ground to accomplish that. If someone wants to focus on giving those guys the credit... I have no problem with that either. My problem is in the hypocrisy. If one president did a good thing and deserved credit... so does the other. If a person or group praises one while ignoring or condemning the other then their bias and hypocrisy is on clear display. It is one thing for a political operative to have biases and spin things as hard as they can. That is kind of expected from a political operative. One should simply take that into account. However one should never believe someone that is acting like a political operative claims to objectivity or neutrality. And that is the way the main stream press has been acting for a long time. We are suppose to have a free and independent press.. What we have are bought and paid for attack dogs.
  19. 4 points
    That's Friday, 10/25 at 7:30PM EDST. Y'all have until that time to put in your guesses on where you think he is going. Whoever gets geographically closest wins. Prize will be... I won't argue with you for the rest of our 3H life. Hah hah.
  20. 4 points
    Jamie123

    I am an LDS Card Counter.

    You've gotta like Roald Dahl (who was quite the gambler himself!) The whole poem is online here: https://www.monologues.co.uk/Childrens_Favourites/Snow_White.htm.
  21. 4 points
    pam

    I am an LDS Card Counter.

    After reading this I'm not sure what you want to hear from us. Did you want to hear that it's okay to gamble?
  22. 4 points
    Just_A_Guy

    Joseph was a bit of a jerk!

    I suspect (but cannot prove) that Joseph’s brothers may not have been so eager to sell him off if he weren’t something of a self-righteous little snot. That said, in dealing with the Egyptians Joseph is dealing as Pharoah’s agent; with the proceeds and power going primarily to Pharoah. I also suspect that the story is being told in such a way to emphasize similarities and differences between Egyptian and later Israelite culture—both peoples covenant themselves into servitude to a god-king in exchange for material support, but in Egypt the king is visible, in Israel He is invisible; Egypt’s god rules by force, Israel’s God by love; in Egypt the priestly caste is the only one with any land left, whereas in Israel the Levites are the only cast who doesn’t get an inheritance of land . . . and so on. But, yes; the Mosaic Law includes some specific injunctions about how to treat the poor and strangers in their midst; and the earlier Patriarchs sometimes would have been spared some grief if they had adhered more closely and consistently to those same principles. (And yeah, I’m aware of Tamar and Onan . . . and Judah. Which, by the way, is alluded to in Jesus’ genealogy as given in the New Testament. I don’t remember whether it was in reference to Matthew’s or Luke’s genealogy, but a professor once pointed out to me that every woman named in Jesus’ genealogy was at the center of a sex scandal.)
  23. 4 points
    NeuroTypical

    Ceasefire in Turkey-Syria

    I don't really know enough to have an informed opinion, but it sounds reasonable to me that Trump and Turkey sort of had this whole thing planned out from the beginning. Power vacuum? Make a deal to have an ally fill it. And last I checked, Turkey is (kinda) an ally. What I find fascinating, is the entire antiwar part of the left wing basically died and came back as nevertrumper zombies in love with George Bush foreign policies. People on the peacenik/no blood for oil/US is bad because we get into wars/Bush lied people died/militaryIndustrialComplex is evil left, whom I've been arguing with for years, now are apoplectic that we're ending a war and bringing troops home. And they don't even seem to realize they're doing it. It's just a gut reflex - Trump sez A, therefore B is the only good and decent thing, and A is the most evil thing ever. Hey folks on the left - read up on some A. You sure you haven't heard this coming out of your mouth since the mid-90's?
  24. 4 points
    The reporting on this story is abysmal. Take a look at the headlines: Salt Lake Tribune: LDS Church opposes proposed Utah rule that would ban ‘conversion therapy’ MySanAntonio.com: Mormon church opposes Utah LGBTQ conversion therapy ban Oil City News: LDS CHURCH AGAINST PROPOSED UTAH BAN ON ‘CONVERSION THERAPY’ CBS News: Mormon Church urges Utah not to bar "conversion therapy" for LGBTQ minors ABC4 News: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints opposes rule that would ban conversion therapy KJZZ: LDS Church releases statement opposing proposed conversion therapy ban Fox13 News: LDS Church raises objections to proposed rule banning conversion therapy on LGBTQ children in Utah The Guardian: Mormon church strikes blow against Utah ban on conversion therapy Longview News-Journal: Mormon church opposes Utah LGBTQ conversion therapy ban Jackson Hole News Guide: Mormon church opposes Utah LGBTQ conversion therapy ban The Alpena News: Mormon church opposes LGBTQ ‘conversion therapy’ ban The Columbian: Latter-day Saints oppose Utah LGBTQ ‘conversion therapy’ ban Gephart Daily: LDS Church opposes ban of conversion therapy for LGBTQ youths Texarkana Gazette: Mormon church opposes 'conversion therapy' ban GV Wire: Mormon Church Opposes Utah LGBTQ ‘Conversion Therapy’ Ban Daily Miner: LDS church opposes Utah LGBTQ conversion therapy ban KNPR: Mormon Church Opposes Utah LGBTQ 'Conversion Therapy' Ban Now read this article from DesNews: Conversion therapy rule draws statement of opposition from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints How many articles that we're reading actually mention that tidbit?
  25. 4 points
    I can't 'love' this comment enough. You said what I was trying to find words for. 25+ years of living a double life, of being convinced I was a telestial person, not redeemable, of lies to keep my family together in this life because i KNEW I wouldn't be with them in the next life. That was hell. Confessing to the Bishop, to my wife, to the Stake President, to the Disciplinary Council, going to therapy, changing my habits, going through withdrawals, suffering panic attacks, 12 step programs. These repentance steps have all been difficult, even heart wrenching, but definitely wonderful.