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  1. 30 points
    unixknight

    So um... I have an announcement.

    My wife @Dollfacekilla and I have been married for 12 years. And this coming Saturday... ...at the Philadelphia Temple... ...we're getting Sealed. ..finally. Just, ya know, thought some of you might like to know
  2. 11 points
    That's fine but we are all sinners. If you are seeking to understand what your LDS acquaintances said and probably meant, then the answers in this thread will help you. If you're seeking to establish your definitions of words as the final, definitive truth, then to be blunt, this whole thread is a waste of everyone's time, including yours.
  3. 11 points
    Quite possibly the beginning of the process to dissociate temple sealings from civil marriage completely. We live in interesting times . . .
  4. 10 points
    We have been repeatedly warned we are living in the last days. The terminology has morphed over time. I remember hearing "we are in the last two minutes of the last hour," as I was a youth. That changed over time to we are living in the last days. A few years back that changed to "we live in perilous times." The Family: A Proclamation To The World contains this warning, "we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets." Those warnings are contained in the scriptures and the writings of apostles and prophets. We have received warnings about the calamities and catastrophic events of the last days in conference and fireside addresses. All things are spiritual to the Lord, including temporal things. The current prophet just warned us again.
  5. 10 points
    A spiritually sensitive 95-year-old man must be fully aware that time is running out for us all. This life is the time to prepare to meet God, and that meeting could happen immediately for any of us. There might be more to it than that, but that's what I think.
  6. 9 points
    My FIL recently told me that he was glad I didn't ask his "permission" to marry @LadyGator because it showed that I didn't view LG as "his property" and that I would respect her as an individual. That's exactly why I didn't ask him. No regrets. To be clear, because I have a feeling this will trigger people-I'm not saying I have a problem with asking fathers to marry their daughters. My experience was just different, and I'm not saying it was better or worse than those of anyone else.
  7. 9 points
    Be afraid. Be very, very afraid.
  8. 8 points
    Jane_Doe

    Here’s a tough one!!

    This in an extremely unhealthy environment. No amount of cleaning can make it sanitary- the filth is literally growing inside the walls. Frankly, the best gesture of love is to have them reported and the place condemned. There needs to be that abrupt change, moving out, and learning proper sanitation.
  9. 7 points
    No surprise here, the church has been doing this everywhere else, but it's a nice change nonetheless. This would have made my marriage a lot easier (I have a lot of non-member family members who were moderately offended they could not attend), so I'm glad the option is now available to have a civil marriage first if need be. https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/couples-married-civilly-authorized-for-immediate-temple-marriage
  10. 7 points
    Having known lots of Protestants and Mormons, and watching the way they tend to live their lives I am sorely tempted to observe: Protestants call themselves sinners—but most of them don’t believe it. Mormons call themselves saints—but most of them don’t believe it.
  11. 7 points
    You're falling victim to the semantic jungle. You have to define your terms. If you're asking a person "Have you ever sinned?" then the obvious answer would have to be "Yes." But asking,"Are you a sinner?" is ambiguous. The literal meaning is clear (i.e. a sinner is one who sins. So if you've ever sinned, then you're a sinner). But the common connotation is not so clear (i.e. a sinner is one who delights in sin and doesn't make any effort to repent). The thing that we point out is that without the Savior, we're all on equal footing. We all fall short of the glory of God. And yes, we're all sinners. But because of the Savior, we have different levels of sin. Sins of omission are often not as serious as sins of commission. Premeditated sins are more serious than spontaneous sins. Violent sins are more serious than passive sins. etc. etc. And through the Atonement, there are some things that we have to go through a process to repent of. But others don't require as much to repent of. With that background, your question without context, to an unsuspecting individual without understanding your motivation or your background or your exact definitions of your words would probably not want to say they were sinners. But if you're asking from a literal, exact, gospel, doctrinal, definitional, legalistic answer to the question as YOU intended it: Yes, we're all sinners.
  12. 7 points
    I am really surprised how riled up this has got some people!! I just saw this as a globalisation of policy and reflection of the more global nature of church membership and a move away from US centric policies with modifications for "the rest of us". It works well here in the UK, civil ceremony in the chapel and then the couple and close family attend the temple then if close enough to the temple an evening reception or for those who have 4-5 hours to travel each way to get to the temple, family celebrations tend to take place the next day when the couple have returned from the temple. When I was married then sealed in this way it meant that I could easily separate out the civil service and focus on the ordinance. It made the sealing ordinance the complete focus; we were just concerned about us as a couple and Heavenly Father with no other distractions. We had a simple civil service with close friends and family, both of us the only members in our families and this gave my spouse (who had been shunned by his family due to his conversion and their faith) the opportunity to reunite with his parents and opened the door to them having a relationship again after many years of no communication at all. - Just my personal view of course.
  13. 7 points
    Privately, I suspect this may be the reason behind many of the changes we have recently seen. But that's a slippery path to tread. What I think of as "weakness" may in fact be "spiritual maturity" or "divine insight" that I lack. So I'm hesitant to publicly declare that the immaturity and petulance of the membership as the reason behind many of these recent changes, lest my own immaturity and petulance be put on public display. As for the sealing/wedding announcement, I take the reason at face value: The leadership of the Church is "[setting] a single global standard" rather than having a US-centric policy that must then be modified for many or most non-US members. I have always supported the old policy and have looked for (and found) valid reasons for it. But I'm not unhappy to see this newly instituted policy, especially if governmental marriage in the US continues in the direction it seems to be headed. Perhaps it's ultimately for the better that we distinguish our sacred sealing for eternity, or even a marriage in the temple for time only, from the governmental perversion of "marriage" as is currently taking place. Without doubt, the Church will still recognize (heterosexual) marriages performed by government entities and require them as a prerequisite for a temple sealing. But the membership will be left completely without excuse when it seeks to equate homosexual government-sponsored, legally recognized "marriage" with actual marriage.
  14. 7 points
    Just_A_Guy

    Replacement for youth programs

    This feels like more of a “we know you guys are starting to panic over what you’re going to do next year, and we haven’t forgotten about you” thing, than anything else.
  15. 6 points
    The bold part is offensive. Do not confuse 1) not having the culture of using a certain phraseology and 2) not taking any part of scripture seriously.
  16. 6 points
    My first impression on reading the article: Thoughtful and well-written examination of a non-existent problem. The un-friending (literal, not Facebook-style) of those who leave the Church is at the behest of the leavers, not the stayers. Those who leave the Church and who then feel they are "shunned" are invariably too smart and too hostile to tolerate the stupid sheeple who stay. Maybe "invariably" is wrong, but I bet it's not far from the truth.
  17. 6 points
    Fair enough. I do agree that it's about the parents as well, in the sense that the parents are a critical part of the kids' life. All I'm saying is that it isn't right to cause drama over it if one can't be there... Because the kids hurt too when loved ones can't attend, and that just makes it worse, and taints the memory of the most important day of their life.
  18. 6 points
    Carlimac, my memory is of course always suspect; but my recollection is that you and I have been on the same side of a number of policy discussions in the which our more progressive brethren have accused both of us of being heartless. You and I both know that, as important as feelings are, they are not the be-all, end-all determinative as to matters of right and wrong. Moreover, suggesting that @unixknight didn’t want to be at his child’s wedding—or that his child didn’t want him there—or that the same is true of other families who supported the Church’s former policy, is not at all what Unixknight actually said. I know you well enough to know that you’re capable of giving people credit for having mixed emotions; and given that he’s put himself out there by sharing a deeply sacred experience in a very personal way, there’s no need to try to present him as some sort of unfeeling automaton just to try to score rhetorical points.
  19. 6 points
    THIS. THIS on a taco. Last year, my oldest son got married/sealed at the Temple. I wasn't able to attend because at the time I didn't have a recommend. Was I sad? yes. Did I feel left out? Yes. Was it about me? NO. It was therefore not relevant how I felt. It was his and his wife's day. Not mine, not anybody else's.
  20. 6 points
    As the hymn states, "Sacrifice brings forth the blessings from heaven." While I don't agree that it is necessarily a weakness to choose another way as sometimes we are required to get our ox out of the mire, it is of great importance to find out the Lord's will and follow it; even if it requires great sacrifice. President Dallin H. Oaks April 2019 General Priesthood Session "At a stake conference in Cali, Colombia, a sister told how she and her fiancé desired to be married in the temple, but at that time the closest temple was in faraway Peru. For a long time, they saved their money for the bus fares. Finally they boarded the bus to Bogotá, but when they arrived there, they learned that all seats on the bus to Lima, Peru, were taken. They could go home without being married or be married out of the temple. Fortunately, there was one other alternative. They could ride on the bus to Lima if they were willing to sit on the floor of the bus for the entire five-day and five-night ride. They chose to do this. She said it was difficult, even though some riders sometimes let them sit in their seats so they could stretch out on the floor. What impressed me in her talk was this sister’s statement that she was grateful she and her husband had been able to go to the temple in this way, because it changed the way they felt about the gospel and the way they felt about marriage in the temple. The Lord had rewarded them with the growth that comes from sacrifice. She also observed that their five-day trip to the temple accomplished a great deal more in building their spirituality than many visits to the temple that were sacrifice-free. In the years since I heard that testimony, I have wondered how different that young couple’s life would have been if they had made another choice --forgoing the sacrifice necessary to be married in the temple."
  21. 6 points
    Vort

    Here’s a tough one!!

    FTR, black mold is an overstated danger. Yes, in heavy concentration over a prolonged period, it can be dangerous to human health. In addition, ripping out walls infested with black mold will spread the spores everywhere. But there's nothing special about black mold. It's just mold. Mainly, you have to know that your typical bleach solution won't really work to kill it. The bleach is toxic to the mold reachable on the surface, but soon enough, the underlying mold will come right back. You need to clean off all the mold you can, then spray with a special mold-killer that you can buy at any Home Depot for about $15/gallon. EDIT: Would you believe $35/gallon? My bad.
  22. 6 points
    Pres. Nelson's words hit very close to home for me. In March, I went through a Stake Disciplinary Council and was subsequently excommunicated for conduct unbecoming a member. I have a long history of leading a double life in and out of the church. I confessed to my wife, my bishop, my Stake President, and God in January and I've been working on changing, repenting, since. For so long, I felt that I couldn't change. I was too weak, too cowardly, too deep into my sinful life to ever be able to get better. And I was right. I am not strong enough, on my own, to change. What I'm in the process of learning is that I am not alone. I am doing what I can and Christ is making up the difference. I have felt my heart change. I still have a long road ahead, but I have the Savior walking beside me. That is my long way of saying, I feel that time is short for me specifically. Not in that my life will end soon or that the Second Coming is next year, but that my need to repent, to change, to become who I need to be, is now. I cannot procrastinate any more.
  23. 6 points
    If Jesus returns tonight, will this statement be falsified?
  24. 6 points
    Time is always running out. It doesn't matter how old you are; this is always true.
  25. 6 points
    anatess2

    Does God Manipulate His Children?

    Why do 3H writers think that opening an article like this I remember that when I began to seriously read the scriptures I found God to be really manipulative, among other things. is a good way to talk about our Heavenly Father? Where do they get the idea that reverence for the Divine is only reserved for Sacrament Meeting?