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  1. 9 points
    If your point is that the Republicans are liars and hypocrites, then I grant your point. The fact (and it is a fact) that the Democrats are far worse doesn't justify the Republican hypocrisy. But this is nothing beyond political gamesmanship. You can bet that the Democrats, in this position, would do exactly the same thing. Their pearl clutching on this matter is political theater, nothing more. Consider: The Supreme Court has had a leftist majority for the entirety of our lifetimes. The political left sees a leftist Supreme Court as their inherent right. And that is what is really at stake here. Why shouldn't the Supreme Court take a conservative bend? The Left sees this as unacceptable and will thus do everything in their power to prohibit it. Meanwhile, the Republicans are 100% within their right to nominate and confirm the justice of their choosing. How does the Left respond? With a threat to burn the entire house down by packing the court under a Biden presidency. Rail all you want against Republican hypocrisy. I might even join you. But don't lose sight of what's really going on here. As is almost always the case, the real, deep evil being done here is being done by the Democrats. The Republicans are mostly garden-variety fools and jackasses. The Democrats are something far more sinister.
  2. 7 points
    NeuroTypical

    Conference October 3-4, 2020

    Elder Oaks making it clear where the church stands, and it's members should stand, on laws and lawbreaking, protesting and resistance and violence.
  3. 7 points
    NeuroTypical

    The gift of Aaron

    Jonah seems to be someone with endless anti cut-and-paste material, and the brains to phrase it in a way that doesn't overtly violate forum rules. D&C 71 means I don't have to care what his motives are. Wherefore, confound your enemies; call upon them to meet you both in public and in private; and inasmuch as ye are faithful their shame shall be made manifest. Wherefore, let them bring forth their strong reasons against the Lord. Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you—there is no weapon that is formed against you shall prosper; And if any man lift his voice against you he shall be confounded in mine own due time. And honestly, after his year of posting here, he seems to be proving the scripture true. (I like that 'vast wisdom' stuff though - you get one free brownie point. Good at Baskin Robins.)
  4. 7 points
    Good National Review article on the history of such things.
  5. 6 points
    askandanswer

    Conference October 3-4, 2020

    if I heard him correctly, President Nelson just announced plans for a temple in Kiribati. For those who do not know, Kiribati is made up of a bunch of tiny specks of land amidst the South Pacific. I'm amazed to hear of plans for a temple in Kiribati, given how small it is, but I guess its remoteness and the poverty of the people make it hard to get to temples in Australia or New Zealand. The church website states that the first stake in the country was created by L Tom Perry in 1996, and that there are 16,659 members living there. https://pacific.churchofjesuschrist.org/ki/about-us
  6. 6 points
    Just_A_Guy

    Conference October 3-4, 2020

    I used to think that way, but I’ve seen some real ugliness online over the past four years and now, over the past six months, in-person as well. I have no idea what the die-hard Trumplings (or, in fairness, pretty much anyone on the left) will do if their boy isn’t inaugurated next January; and these conference addresses aren’t calming my nerves. Food storage, folks. Food storage.
  7. 6 points
    Hmm. You mean, your opponents tried to get your buy-in by promising not to do something, and then they went ahead did it anyways the first chance they got? Yeah, welcome to my world. For better and for worse: the days where Democrats could flagrantly lie in their negotiations with Republicans (“gays just want to be left alone, they don’t want *marriage*!“ “gay marriage doesn’t mean you have to agree with it!” “gay marriage will certainly never have repercussions for free exercise of religion!” “just legalize the aliens who are already here and we *promise* we’ll get tough on border security!” “no, we’ll totally support the military while it goes after the SOBs who perpetrated 9/11!” “we want abortion to be safe, rare, and legal; we certainly don’t celebrate it!” “we just want to remove the statues of Confederates; of *course* we continue to revere Washington and Adams and Jefferson and Madison and Lincoln!” “We believe in treating people the same regardless of race” “We have no intention of nationalizing the health care industry!”) while simultaneously expecting Republicans to keep their own promises regardless of cost, are now over.
  8. 5 points
    Vort

    Conference October 3-4, 2020

    I think we have a pretty good idea of what the Trump-haters will do if their guy loses. We have four years of experience with it.
  9. 5 points
    Just_A_Guy

    Presidential Debate - Tomorrow

    Apparently, I’m not the only one who was thinking along these lines. The GOP tried being decent to Biden. It didn’t work. Also: Ari Fleischer made an interesting point—it sounded unbelievable, but then I went back and watched the (first part of the) debate again and, lo and behold, he was right: The first seven minutes of the debate were pretty conventional and interruption-free. Then, on Trump’s second or third answer, Biden interrupted him no fewer than three different times. And that’s when Trump turned on the nasty.
  10. 5 points
    Scott

    Presidential Debate - Tomorrow

    I don't think the debates are going to change much in the way of the vote. Most people have already decided who they are voting for.
  11. 5 points
    When you're a youth, dating exists to get to better know people and practice basics of relationships. There's more focus on group events. And of course, things should remain chaste. When you're a adult, dating exists for the purpose of finding a spouse. There's more focus on pair off events. And of course, things should remain chaste until marriage. Nothing about the Lord's Law of Chasity is dependent on your age. Living together / sex before are very serious perversions of the Lord's way. Postponing marriage for selfish reasons of "I don't want to grow up!" is childish. Also a relevant side point since you mentioned conversion: if a person is interested in coming to Christ, taking upon His name, and joining the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, that person is excepted to try to follow Him. It's the give your whole heart, mind, might, and soul thing. Therefore, yes you are actually expected to strive to keep the Lord's Law of Chastity. If you're cohabitating, then you're obviously not there yet. So we're work on that before baptism and formally taking His name upon yourself.
  12. 4 points
    Perhaps both/and...even traditional Christians admit that the Fall clearly resulted in free will, and we all love the promise of Genesis 3:15--that Jesus would crush Satan's head. This first messianic promise comes as a result of the Fall--it is part of God's "punishment." On the other hand, they did lose Eden, and far too many of the progeny of Adam & Eve have chosen badly. We may differ as to whether the Fall was pre-arranged in a before-creation agreement or not, but that the Fall brought both punishments and silver linings is truth.
  13. 4 points
    mirkwood

    Conference October 3-4, 2020

    For those who need/want help in getting going. It isn't too late to start. http://preppercop.blogspot.com/
  14. 4 points
    person0

    Conference October 3-4, 2020

  15. 4 points
    laronius

    Heavenly Parents

    Outside the fact that we are the literal spirit children of a Heavenly Father and Mother there is actually very little that we do know. But if we want to speculate we do know that spirit is element so it's possible that our "intelligence," whatever that is, was through that divine birthing process, again whatever that is, was united with our spirit bodies. But it's all speculation because there is so much that we don't know but what we do know is sufficient.
  16. 4 points
    Just_A_Guy

    The gift of Aaron

    From Joseph Smith: Rough Stone Rolling by Richard Bushman:
  17. 4 points
    The debate moderator should have had a microphone kill switch. There were parts of the debate where they were just talking over each other. It happened far too much in the debate in my opinion.
  18. 4 points
    NeuroTypical

    The gift of Aaron

    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/divining-rods?lang=eng
  19. 4 points
    Fether

    Conference October 3-4, 2020

    It’s a good thing we believe in prophets and continuing revelation, other wise we may never have known. I would also add that it is amazing that the church has grown so much that we can start focusing on such little things like how we refer to the church.
  20. 4 points
    "Compulsory benevolence is not charity"
  21. 4 points
    Side question. Could we look at callings the same way we look at property. Nothing is truly ours, we only have the illusion of ownership, God gives all and gives us stewardship over what is his. Callings are only additions to our stewardship. However, because of the illusion of ownership, we treat our property better than we treat our callings. But in reality they are equal.
  22. 4 points
    1) What is the source for the claim that the GAs live the Law of Consecration? (I’m not disputing it, necessarily; but this seems to be one of those things that everybody knows but no one can source.) 2) FWIW, property records in Davis and Salt Lake Counties are online, and searchable by owner name; and several members of the Q15 are on there as owning homes in their own names or under family trusts.
  23. 4 points
    Carborendum

    Freedom, Family, and The Gospel

    Where is that in this thread? I never said it. Adding in ideas and topic instead of discussing what is at hand seems like a threadjack. Back to topic. Based on your interpretation that YOU provided, how does that inform your position on the topic I posited in the OP? What is your thought on the OP?
  24. 4 points
    Still_Small_Voice

    I'M IN THE MONEY!!!

    One crazy thought that I learned recently is if you make more than $32,350 in United States currency per year you are among the top one percent of global earners. If you are among the top one percent of global earners and pay your tithing imagine what these tithes and offerings can do for saints in foreign countries.
  25. 3 points
    I don't represent the GOP, so I get to be more blunt. The secular fundamentalists hate America's undercurrent of Judeo-Christian morality with a passion. They desire to force our private colleges to house gay partners. They would use the force of law to compel us to provide professional services (cakes and flowers, etc.) for sacrilegious marriage sacraments. They would declare unfit for public office any who take their faith serious enough to be, for example, pro-life. The dogma lives loudly in us indeed. So...call us hypocrites all you want, we're putting as many of our judges in as we can, while we can. Your election term may be coming, but pardon us for defensively prepping.