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  1. For at least the last five years I've been concerned about the opposite problem--depopulation. Western Europe, Japan and S. Korea, the native-born population of the United States--these are all shrinking. A society needs 2.1 children per female to maintain population. S. Korea is at 0.72. Japan has been combatting the problem for a generation and is at 1.46. Singapore's government subsidizes matchmaking for educated females. The reality is that as countries reach middle income for the majority of its populations the birthrate drops. Now even secular media is starting to notice the trend. Articles are appearing stating that the lack of children is becoming a problem. Regardless, there are not enough good and godly children. Our moral duty is to have more, not fewer, children.
    7 points
  2. On the other hand, if your 70-year-old mother had voluntarily donated her basement as a place for goons to keep their Jewish sex slave . . . We have a strong western tradition of at least giving lip service to the distinction between civilian and military; and the notion that a populace is often not accountable for the acts of its government. But when you see the public opinion polls about the number of Palestinians (and Palestinian supporters in Europe and the USA) who support the 10/7 attacks . . . I don’t know. It makes me reconsider the OT conquest narratives. Could it be that sometimes, an entire culture is simply beyond rehabilitation/reconciliation; and for the sake of self defense, all that’s left to do is to give them the most humane death your resources permit?
    6 points
  3. Sounds like Eli Herring. https://www.deseret.com/2015/4/29/20563855/20-years-later-blessed-herring-believes-he-made-right-decision-not-to-play-in-nfl/ From the above interview you can see he had no regrets. I was on the BYU track and field team with him back in the early ‘90s. He was a heck of a good shot putter too. And his eating prowess was awe-inspiring. Doing the right thing always pays off.
    6 points
  4. I do not believe this. Especially for men who work a professional job, the virtue of living within one's means is almost universally available.
    6 points
  5. AMEN, brother. My son only took a couple of classes at the local JC to explore what various professions were about. Eventually he got some online training for $35 to become a drafter. He did have the advantage of having access to the software through me. But anyone else could have rented it for about $50/month. He began his career before he even turned 20 years old. He was making the average salary when he still lived under our roof. When he left for his mission it was a disappointment for many at the company he worked for. He was the best drafter they had. Throughout his mission, people at the company kept calling me asking when he was coming back. The date didn't change. But they kept calling anyway. They wanted to know if there was any way he could come home earlier. LOL! Now he's back at that company with a hefty raise. He has now moved from average salary to median salary. That said, I need to admit that my son is a special case. His brain is phenomenal. I've never met anyone like him before. And I know a LOT of very smart people. It is possible that a particular friend of mine has a son with a mind like my son's. My wife always had a dream of being a wildlife biologist. But she knew from her youth that being a mother was paramount. So, she slowly took classes whenever we could afford it. She eventually got an associate's degree (made Phi Beta Kappa) the same year that her daughter got hers. And now in her middle age, she doesn't regret the choices she's made. Our kids are just the best. I could tell some stories. But I'd be bragging too much. It is because they had a SAHM who was teaching and guiding them all the way. They also had a father who taught them the roles of men and women. All my children love to read (because of their mother). They love having philosophical and Socratic discussions all the time. And they have the wackiest sense of humor in any household I know of.
    5 points
  6. I see no other reasonable way to take Camille N. Johnson's words. as quoted by @mikbone and as apparently approved by President Oaks. This woman is the General Relief Society President, and her words include: "I had my first son the year after I passed the bar. I had bables, and my husband and I loved and nurtured them while we were both working, It was busy, sometimes hectic; we were stretched and sometimes tired...My husband and I sought inspiration in these choices and in the timing. It was what we felt impressed to do...I juggled pregnancy, having babies, nurturing children, carpool, Little League, Church responsibilities, being a supportive spouse, and my professional pursuits. It was a joyful juggle I wouldn't change...Being a mother is my highest priority. It is my ultimate joy." Obviously, Sister Johnson is an intelligent and accomplished woman. Just as obviously, she put her career as an important part of her life choices, not because her husband couldn't work, but because it was important to her. She claims that she was following the inspiration of God in making such choices. Who am I to say she's wrong? Yet this is clearly and very starkly different from what the prophets unanimously proclaimed scarcely more than a generation ago. There can be no doubt or argument on that point. So what are we to make of that? And please note, Sister Johnson's highest priority and ultimate goal is not being a wife and help meet for her husband. It is being a mother. Yet being a successful mother in the ultimate sense presupposes being a wife and help meet for her spouse. My wife and I had come to a crossroads. I told her what I preferred, but I could not and would not impose my decision on her. Her decision was what it had always been throughout her life: She would finish her PhD and work in a university and/or for the UN. But later, soon after the birth of our oldest child and just after she had been awarded her Master's degree, she came to talk to me and told me that she had changed her mind, that she wanted to focus on our family and on rearing our children. If she had not made that decision, our lives would have looked much different. For one thing, we would have had a lot more money. For another, I don't see how we realistically could have homeschooled our children, so either I would have quit working to try to homeschool them or we would have had to make other arrangement for our children's education. We had five children and several pregnancies that were lost, but I wonder if a successful career woman--and make no mistake about it, my wife would have been spectacularly successful in her chosen fields, almost certainly far more successful than her husband has been in his--I wonder if such a woman would have had the strength, stamina, or even desire to have more than one or two children. The greatest blessings and joys of our lives would likely never have come about, or at least would look much different, had my wife chosen her career aspirations. Well, so, bully for us. Yippee. But that doesn't mean our path is what every woman's path should look like. Fair enough. But the point is, had we been young marrieds now, growing up in the modern world, my wife's General Relief Society President would be on record as using her own career as an example and a talking point. With that kind of feedback and counsel, would my wife have made the same choice? I don't know, but I suspect the probability would have decreased. Oh, okay. So that was a good outcome for people thirty-plus years ago, back in my generation. But today, a good outcome looks different. Do we believe this? Because I always thought there was a divine, celestial ideal for which we strove, an unchanging pole star. But we have our highest general-level Church leaders teaching something much different from what they taught not very many years back. Make it make sense. That's all I ask. And if the way you make it make sense is by discarding as "outdated" or "ignorant" the inspired teachings of past prophets and leaders, then I won't accept what you claim to be sensible.
    5 points
  7. Every day I grow more and more convinced that every problem in society can be traced back to the failure of the nuclear family (success of the extended family is even better, but failure of the nuclear family is equivalent to the failure of a society).
    5 points
  8. zil2

    Temples for April 2024?

    Seems like a good place to put this. I enjoy visuals like this:
    5 points
  9. True dark chocolate tends to be very hard. I could see some of them being described as plastic-like. This is my personal favorite. Hard, bitter, and kinda chalky. They also have a coffee version that's absolutely fantastic.
    4 points
  10. Losses inexorably change the nature of the battlefield. Thanks to inflation fed in part by a labor glut, what was once attainable for the vast majority of families who put their minds to it (specifically, subsisting and even thriving on a single income), no longer is. I’m not sure what you mean by pivoting or suggesting that it’s a rare thing. Every time the left “wins” on a particular issue, they tend to open up a new front; and the right feels it has to fight it. Got sex ed in schools? Great, now hide the curriculum from parents. Got legalized abortion? Great, now offer it at taxpayer expense and make it legal up to 39 weeks. Got gay marriage? Great, now get dudes in drag to do strip shows in schools. Got legal equality for racial minorities? Great, now let’s institutionalize reverse-discrimination. I don’t think the right “pivoting” is odd or surprising at all; it’s just conservatives trying to conserve.
    4 points
  11. With regard to Pres. Johnson’s Facebook post: I think the subtext is a recognition that, as @Anddenex suggests, a lot of women have sort of been pulled kicking and screaming into the workforce out of necessity (because their families are grappling with inflation caused by, among many other things, a rising number of two-income families with more disposable income) (and whether President Johnson’s life choices thirty decades ago were part of the problem, is another discussion). But the crux of her post, as I read it, was “even if you’re working, don’t wait to have kids. You were created to be a parent first and foremost, and you can make it work.” Which, I think, is a timely message. I’ll certainly advise my sons and sons in law to pursue careers that will give them the financial latitude to permit their wives stay home full time. But I’m not sure it’s desirable—or possible—to have a church where every (or most) adult male clears six figures per year. If a critical mass of LDS women are going to be establishing careers, then the inevitable next question is “do they have kids sooner, or later?” And that’s a no-brainer as far as our theology is concerned; and President Johnson is (as President Oaks affirmed) endorsing a proper example in that regard. In other words: The fight over whether mothers should stay home with their children was well-fought and no doubt improved many lives and even saved many souls. But the battlefield has changed. The fight now isn’t whether mothers work outside of the home; it’s whether women become mothers at all.
    4 points
  12. I'm not sure if this is what you had in mind. But it is related and has been weighing on my mind. About 6 months ago, we accepted a young adult into our home because she had no place to go. Her parents had kicked her out. And by all accounts, they were abusive. She was very damaged by all that happened. Since she's been living with us she has eased up a bit and found herself. The problem is... "herself" is not someone that has it together. She's not grateful. She's not humble. She is not responsible. While my wife has tried to work with her on the emotional/social side, I'm trying to teach her financial literacy. My kids have actually been instrumental in helping her on the spiritual side (mind you, she is nominally LDS). Unfortunately, all of our efforts have been in vain. It seems that due to all the gaslighting she experienced in her family, she developed the self-defense mechanism of giving a knee-jerk reaction to any new information with "Well, that is not true for me because..." Needless to say, we have made zero progress with her from making any changes to her decision making or behaviors. ******************* Now, I am trying to avoid blasphemy here. But the following stark comparison has been on my mind. And it involves a situation where I would be "the Lord" in this parable. When we took her into our home. We had it in our minds to possibly adopt her. But we'd have to see how things go. How would she fit into our family in the long run? Is she willing to be part of our family. To help her out, I bought her a beater so she could get to and from work. The agreement was that she would pay me back over the course of 6 months. With her salary, she should be able to pay me back in three or four months. The deal was that all the payments would be considered "rent" until she pays it off fully. Then I would sign the car over to her. And it would be hers. Fast forward. She has skipped a few months payment. She now still owes me about $1800. She is scheduled to leave for her own apartment at the end of June. By then she will owe me about $2000 because we agreed that I'd begin to charge a small amount of rent ($100/mo) beginning in April. She said that she felt she had to leave around now because "Carb is going to start taking my money." As you can imagine, I found that disturbing on several levels. Because she has been a less than stellar worker, her boss reduced her hours. So, she is now making much less money. There is no way she can pay me back anymore. She wants to move into an apartment with a friend of hers. But she's "having trouble getting the deposit together because I'm giving all my money to Carb." Note; She hasn't paid me a penny in two months. I'm now expecting that she will have to take all the money and put the deposit down on the apartment and leave without paying me back. I'm probably not going to make much of an objection. But I feel like I'll have to point out a few things. We invited her into our home and wanted to adopt her after a testing period. But she never wanted to learn what it was to be a part of our family. This would include making her an heir to my estate when I died. But she didn't do the things we did. She didn't learn the things we learned. She didn't accept the principles which we believed. She wanted a posh life without taking on the responsibilities of that life. Instead of paying $100 rent (because I was "taking" her money) she CHOSE to pay $700/mo for half rental on an apartment. Her parents stole $2000+ of her money. She is now defaulting on her obligation to me for $2000. The thing is that I knew this was a possible eventuality. And I was prepared to take the hit if it came down to it. So, I'm going to forgive her the debt. She can no longer blame her financial woes on her parents' mistreatment. I've paid their debt to her. She now has her own life to live and cannot blame anyone for the choices she makes. When she realized what was happening financially, she never bothered to come to me and ask for a different deal or schedule or anything that might make it more financially feasible for her to pay me back. She just chose to bad-mouth me to my children. So, she's going to blame me for all her financial woes. She made nearly $20,000 last year and has nothing to show for it because she spent it all despite having no expenses other than her phone and gas for the car. She spent it on frivolous living. The parallels with her irresponsibility with money vs our irresponsibility with "glory" (as you - Traveler- put it) is really clear in my mind. The Lord wants us to inherit all He has. We want that posh life. But we often are not willing to learn and do what it takes to get there. Often times, we think the Lord expects too much of us. But what we choose to do instead will be even harder. In fact, it is impossible. (c.f. C.S. Lewis wheat, grass, egg) We have been wronged by so many parties. But the Lord has paid the debt so that all things are equal. We can't blame any of our bad choices on what wrongs we've been subject to in our lives. The Lord has cleared it all and given us a fresh start. We spend way too much time trying to justify, or cry foul, or simply denying, instead of going to the Lord and asking for forgiveness. We need to ask him to lift us up. But many of us tend to now blame the Lord for all our problems as if they just came out of thin air. We have so many blessings which we squander like the prodigal son. We could have done so much with our time, talents, and everything that the Lord has blessed us with. But we choose to waste it all far too often. I don't like losing $2000. And it hurts. But I'd be glad to pay it, if it meant that she would turn around and figure things out, and begin to live a happy life with no exuses. I just want her to learn correct principles and live a happy life. I'll gladly set things up so that she has no excuses. But she is just continuing to make bad choices because she has never accepted the lessons we tried to teach her. The primary principle behind economics is not the currency. In the end, "economics" is the science of "making choices."
    4 points
  13. Earth's economy is driven by limitation - without limitation, things are seen as having no value. The things of heaven (aka the things of God) know no limits, only increase: God gives us knowledge and now that knowledge has increased. God teaches us to love, and now there is more love. The same with all virtues, God shares them by offering them to us and teaching us to embrace them and they increase. The phrase "economy of heaven" as used in many a General Conference talk seems to equate to "efficiency of heaven" and also "rules of interaction" or "who should be doing what".
    4 points
  14. I don't believe it. To be brutally candid, I don't believe I did my best at parenting, even though it was probably the most fulfilling activity of my life and one of the two things I really wanted to succeed at. I think I operated well below what I was capable of, of what I should have done, of what my Father in heaven expected of me. And while I don't inflict my own weaknesses upon everyone else, I also am not naive enough to believe that I'm somehow specially wicked and lazy. Yes, I'm wicked and lazy, but my observation is that just about everyone else is in the same boat, more or less. People betray their children all the time, a truism that came as an honest shock to my young adult self when, in a horrifying moment, I realized it. In the depths of your soul, do you truly believe that those mothers who encourage their daughters to be boys or their sons to be girls are just doing their honest best? A few pathetic and lost souls, perhaps, but not in the main. That's not doing one's best. That's caving to societal pressure and hoping you can be seen as the heroic defender of the sexually downtrodden, sort of a twisted version of Munchausen syndrome by proxy. I spare my wholesale condemnation of such people. If the mortal Christ did not see fit to condemn a woman taken in the very act of adultery, I can't believe it's my place to condemn someone else even for something as horrific as encouraging his child to mutilate his own mind and body. But I sure as heck don't believe it's a good-hearted and honest attempt at upright parenting. Not in 99% of cases.
    4 points
  15. "Childcare crisis" doesn't mean we need more nurseries and daycare facilities. "Childcare crisis" means mothers aren't taking care of their own children.
    4 points
  16. I realize that people want to encourage people to behave better by having cameras watching their every move. There is wisdom in this. But I see an unexpected consequence. Children even early teens still don't have any idea about life. They're in the learning stages. And while there need to be consequences for actions, I believe that the mob mentality that is rampant in this era (and, I'm sure many other periods in history) would want their pound of flesh if some stupid kid simply did something that was simply stupid. And that kid would pay for the rest of his life for doing something stupid that stupid kids do, but often grow out of.
    4 points
  17. I'm late to the conversation; however, this is another one of those items that I find difficult. I brought up a similar conversation regarding keeping the Sabbath day holy and recent general authorities who played professional sports. The Church taught in seminary about the BYU player who turned down a professional career in football because he was taught by his parents to keep the Sabbath day holy. As it turns out, he should have played professional sports. This is one of those items in our day where the scripture seems to be loud and clear, "It is better to obey, than to sacrifice." Yet, it seems as though in some lives they are still lifted up even though they sacrificed rather than obeyed. This is one of the conundrums I don't understand. "Let God prevail..." means to let God prevail. It means to obey rather than to sacrifice. I can empathize with any mother who obeyed (put off a career) rather than sacrifice (kept career) and did not experience the same financial stability. So, I have a hard time reading a comment that talks about letting God prevail when their choices clearly showed they did not let God prevail, they merely kept doing what they wanted to do. I can think of many homes right now who did obey, who did sacrifice, and how I have watched them struggle financially. Now, it seems like their struggles were vain. They should have sacrificed, rather than obeyed (and at least obeyed in all other aspects) so they could enjoy more financial freedom. This is the type of post that causes any person who has been obeying rather than sacrificing to feel/think, "Have I had everything wrong?" Why keep the commandment if the commandment is subjective? If I can merely converse with God to do what I want, why have the commandment/counsel in the first place? I remember reading articles talking about the seductiveness of two incomes, and how two incomes will only make it harder for a woman to stay at home without entering the workforce if her husband doesn't have a high paying job. This sister increased that likelyhood. Making it harder for others to follow the counsel, and now she is in a leading position counseling mothers to be mothers, while she put a career ahead of being a mother. These are tough situations. These are times where the scriptures specifying "Do not judge" come into play also. It seems as though the idea from President Nelson regarding having the constant companionship of the Holy Ghost is more real than ever.
    4 points
  18. prisonchaplain

    The Church & Israel

    A couple of responses. @Traveler, you think deeply and well. We may not agree about the canon, but I always appreciate your insights--especially in this string. We have remarkably similar views, despite our differences concerning the canon of scripture. @LDSGator, I get your perspective and have some sympathy for the Gazan residents. However, Israel is literally fighting an existential battle. If they stop now, they will not be perceived as winners. The Jews faced genocide once. Now they've discovered that many in the USA--even in NYC--especially our young--might allow such again. I'm not so sure I can tell them how to fight back. I pray for the day when we truly recognize Jews have a right to exist and they have a right to keep their homeland.
    4 points
  19. Like I wrote, frankly I don’t know. I have heard some talk of needing some mental stimulation. Likely men are at fault for under appreciating their spouses. Listing to the whisperings of Lucifer’s host - believing that their decisions were less rewarding or less important than a formal job. That they missed out on getting a degree. Some sort of dis-satisfaction… I agree with Goodwill Hunting, “You spent $150,000 on an education that you could have got for $1.50 in late charges @ the local public library.” An education does not require a university… As for enjoying working outside the home. I can’t understand it at all. I work with many over educated men and women. I have way more stimulating conversations with my children. If me or any of the people that I work with won the lottery, we would quit our jobs overnight. I understand working women that must provide basic needs for their families. Its the women that already have supporting husbands that confuse me.
    4 points
  20. It's not just a mixed message these days, it's a different message altogether. The message used to be that mothers should stay home with the kids and not go to work, unless it was absolutely necessary. Now the message is that it's perfectly fine to be a career woman and a mother at the same time.
    4 points
  21. I'm also concerned about "Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations." Especially when combined with the part of the definition that says, "...are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities." So if one American Jewish person advocates for something that helps Israel while harming the US, saying anything about it could be anti-Semitism and thus illegal?
    4 points
  22. Oh... and for what it's worth, the above doesn't imply having a career.
    4 points
  23. There are already repercussions.
    4 points
  24. Vort

    The Church & Israel

    I have not asked anyone, but I'm not at all surprised to hear this. One of the great mysteries of life is how so many Jews, probably the most intelligent people on the planet (and not by a little bit*), can hold such stupid opinions about certain issues. The old "Mormons turning dead Jews into Mormons" through baptism for the dead is one outstanding example. This, it appears, is another. The blindingly obvious problem here is that "Jew" denotes not only a religion, not only a race, not only a culture, but all of the above (and probably more). "Jews for Jesus" is no more oxymoronic than "atheist Jews", which in my experience is the majority of American Jews. If a Jew can believe in no God at all and still remain a Jew, why should a Jew not be able to believe in Jesus as the Christ and still remain a Jew? *I have read that Ashkenazi Jews have a mean IQ score that is 15 points above the mean of the population at large. (Here is an MIT paper that supports the idea.) (Here is another one, from a source I know nothing about, but that claims that in certain important areas, Jews score more like 25 IQ points above the general mean. 25 points! That is nearly unbelievable. One breathless passage: "Ashkenazin skills in verbal reasoning, comprehension, working memory, and mathematics are simply astounding—the group averages 125 on an IQ test of verbal reasoning. Since 1950, 29 percent of Nobel Prizes have been awarded to Ashkenazi Jews, who represent a mere 0.25 percent of the global population.") Fifteen points is enormous, a full standard deviation above the general norm. That means your average, run-of-the-mill Ashkenazi Jew is one of the bright students in the class; the Ashkenazi Jew that scores in the top third of his Jewish peers will score in the top 95% of the general population; and the top 95% scorer among fellow Jews (about 1 in 20) will score in the top 99.9% of the general population (about 1 in 1000). It is neither coincidence nor conspiracy that Jews are vastly overrepresented in intellectual professions such as banking, finance, law, medicine, and creative endeavors; it's just evidence of their superior intellectual capacity or achievements. Rather ironic and almost humorous to compare Hitler's rantings about the Master Race. If any group fits Hitler's twisted Master Race idea, it is the very Jews he was so passionately murdering.
    4 points
  25. NeuroTypical

    Deja Vu?

    College can be a great place. Where kids become adults, and go through a process wherein their sheltered world views, based on half-formed emotion-based ideologies and zealous ignorance, begin to crash into various harsh walls of various realities. I'm a massive fan of free speech, 1st amendment protections, and angry people getting together and yelling and protesting. Cross the line into vandalism, occupying private buildings, destruction of property, and singling out a certain demographic for abuse/violence/harassment, and you lose my support pretty quickly. Happy to see college students learning about reality, engaging in debates, protesters encountering counter-protesters. Happy to see so much WWII history getting dug up and talked about again. Yes, there's a reason why most of the entire world was supportive and helpful when Great Britain and the allied nations fought/killed/bombed/burned it's way through civilian populations in order to end the nazi threat by making it so there were no more nazis. I'm glad to hear of arrests, suspensions, possible expulsions, for the idiots who take their ignorant entitlements too far.
    4 points
  26. When it comes to nuclear energy, I'm both glad and utterly disappointed that the Democrats finally removed anti-nuclear language from it's party platform in the past few years. I'm both glad and utterly disappointed that they're finally in favor of it. If my side takes a hit for being anti-science and anti-truth when it comes to our more whacky anti-vax covid conspiracy stuff, then the establishment left surely gets to take a hit for being anti-science and anti-truth over the last several decades, getting votes by pandering to folks' fears and maybe the coal industry. Politics aside, Robert Hays from North Carolina University makes an awful lot of sense to me. Spending 30 minutes watching half a dozen of his TikToks is a worthy pursuit. Dude addresses criticisms and issues and questions around all things nuclear.
    4 points
  27. That is much more true than any woke leftist's conclusion on the matter. People simply don't recognize the importance of the family unit. But they will certainly shed tears when someone shares a sob story about their broken home. So, what is any leftist doing to preserve the family as the basic and most important unit of society? <crickets>. Statistics are so clear it is frightening. If you honor the traditional family, you have a greater than 90% chance of being in the middle class or higher when you grow up. Breaking the nuclear family... that's a different story.
    4 points
  28. After posting here on this subject I believe the LORD wanted me to read on this. Satan has suddenly thrust many temptations at me recently. Thankfully, I have not fallen and kept my will thus far. It seems to happen as I focus on temple worship, the opposition comes. Thank you all for posting on this subject. The LORD bless you all.
    4 points
  29. Most Evangelical Christians have a special love for Israel. Many of us believe that God has special plans for the nation (and the Jews) in the last days. Many also believe that a large number of Jews will convert to Christianity. Of course, 2/3rds of the Bible is made up of the Hebrew scriptures. So, while the government of Israel may receive criticism, we are mostly pro-Israel, pray for Jerusalem's peace, and I suspect most in my camp are siding with Israel in the current conflict. Of course, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has its own end times teachings and likely has a somewhat different understanding of the role of Israel and the Jews. Despite starting with "Of course," I'm not sure what those differences are. So, please share.
    3 points
  30. zil2

    What did I just eat?

    That's normal. Klaw was pretty mad at me for the first day or two. Smoke spent his first three days and four nights here mostly locked in a room while Klaw got used to his scent and the idea of him. Thankfully, some friends came and spent time with Smoke so I could spend time reassuring Klaw. Day four I let Klaw and Smoke interact fully. It was mostly friendly, but still some hissing and growling. Buddy-status was pretty solid by day five. Right now I'm trapped as they're both snuggled up with my left arm pinned... One-hand typing stinks.
    3 points
  31. I worked for a candy store for 5-6 years. There are hundreds of types of chocolate, and dozens of "high-end". Lots of combinations of dark/light, % butterfat, % cacao. And yes, the final texture can change based on how it's melted/tempered/cooled.
    3 points
  32. Jamie123

    "Moments of Happiness"

    I believe I've had one today and that God has blessed me. Yesterday I met up with my wife in Kingston and we had a meal together. She told me that our daughter (child) misses me and wants to see me again. She (they) miss the fun times we used to have together which surprised me a lot. I thought that since "growing up" she (they) considered me an embarrassing old nutter who pretends to be a Yorkshireman, tells stupid jokes, disrespects all her (their) sacred cows and pulls faces at BMW drivers, who wants steering well clear of. (Except of course as a source of cash.) But it seems I misread the situation somewhat, which is hardly surprising as I haven't seen her (them) to speak to in nearly a year. Anyway they both want us to meet up as a family again soon. This morning I took some things over to my wife's new apartment and we had a lovely time, having breakfast at McDonald's. It was really lovely to be spending time with her. I don't see us moving back in together for a very long time (if ever) but I can see this new situation working. She is happy, and that is what is important to me. So is my daughter (child). I've just got to learn to bite my tongue and not press her (their) LGBTQ buttons. Anyway after that I went back to the university and marked about a dozen exam scripts, then went and bought a brand new lawnmower, assembled it and cut the grass in the front yard for the first time in a year. Only stopped working when it got dark. It may sound ike nothing but it's the most I have achieved on a Saturday for many a month. (OK I also had a rant about Nazis and Mormons, Left Behind and Penelope Pitstop, but darkness within light, yin and yang. No one changes completely in one day.)
    3 points
  33. This may be first election in my lifetime in which I won't blame anyone--including those who don't vote.
    3 points
  34. Soundtracks are also a great way to re-experience music
    3 points
  35. I've thought about this and I'm leaning toward the idea that it is not about right v wrong, or correct v incorrect. Neither is it about obeying or disobeying. It is really about "are you able to do this?" For most women, the answer is "No, you will definitely neglect your family." For others, the answer is,"yes, but you're really just making your life harder. And you'll eventually have to choose between your career or your family. Are you sure you're going to be willing to give up your career when that eventuality occurs?" For a very few, the answer is "yes... but... be sure you continue to make family the priority in your life. Don't lose sight of what is most precious." The reason why this last is so uncommon is the reason women go to work v. why men go to work. Women go to work to gain status or to feel "fulfilled." Unless they have to, they don't go to work to support the family. Thus single mothers are part of the "have to go to work" group. They do it because they need to support the family. Men go to work first and foremost because we need to support our family. It has been the husbandly and fatherly role since pre-historic times. It always will be so. Take that away from the man and he feels emasculated. If we can't support our family, it destroys us spiritually, mentally, and emotionally. Do we want fulfillment and status? Absolutely. Of course we do. But it is not the primary purpose of a man's profession. And it is much less common for a man to lose sight of this. Ask 100 men who make the median salary: Would you clean sewers for $100k/yr? 99 of them would say "Yes, absolutely!" Ask 100 women the same question. 1 of them might accept. So, unless you're the one woman who would accept, chances are that your claim that you "need" to work outside the home is a false one. To bring it back to the beginning... Sis Johnson didn't seem to need to go to work to support the family. But she seemed to be the 1/1000 who can do it all and continue to make family the priority in her life. The danger here is so many women who cannot do so will look at her example and think, "Why can't I do that?" Answer: Because you're only in it for yourself and you're not willing to sacrifice what you need to do in order to make family a priority. CONDITION: It is a LOT easier for a career woman to make family a priority if she works part-time or has a home-based business. And lawyering is one of those professions where you can do that (depending on the type of law she practices). So, if you have a profession that allows you to be with your children, then great. Just be sure to make them the priority, not your career.
    3 points
  36. Although I see how the shifting message raises an eyebrow (including my own), a couple things that come to my mind: - As far as Pres. Johnson's choices - we don't know how many hours she was working every day. Not all lawyers work 80+ hours a week. Maybe she even cut her hours while her kids were young. Not defending or questioning, just sharing a thought. - Different people need different messages. This talk could help assuage the guilt some moms feel who need to work but know the counsel that's been given to stay home (some seem to ignore the fact that the leaders have been clear about exceptions). On the other hand, some years ago I was in a facebook group of which most of whom were LDS. Over time, it became apparent that one particular woman was using the counsel that the wife stays home with the kids to excuse herself from helping to meet the basic needs of the family (her husband had lost his job, the Church was covering expenses, she admitted that her homeschooled daughter would do better going to regular school, etc). - Will some men and women use this talk to justify their stance? Most likely and that would be unfortunate because I'm aware of some consequences to the mom working/going to school while kids are still home. To me, the message should be more along the lines of "As long as you are paying your own way in life (with honest endeavors and moderation in lifestyle), there's more to life than earning money. We're here to raise a family and serve others, not live extravagantly or make companies rich to our own detriment (ie high stress level which leads to impatience, health issues, etc)." [Not a perfect summary but you get the idea and for context, I know someone who works too much even though they're quite comfortable. All this work affects their health and the family.]
    3 points
  37. Israel's stated goals aren't about holding people responsible or bringing anyone to justice. Israel's stated goals are all about ensuring Hamas permanently loses the ability to threaten Israel. You don't get that by making it all the way to Rafah and then doing a deal with the intact Hamas leadership. Just sayin'.
    3 points
  38. When I read the scriptures and read stories of how people are all about how they a following the dead prophets but seems to ignore and belittle the living prophets... And I often wonder how could they be so foolish. Then I read threads like this and I am like ah so that how it begins. Divine Laws are unchanging... We we Humans in our fallen state are always changing. Part of the role of God's prophets is to bridge that gap. Part of their job is to council advise and direct us on how we can best fulfill Divine Law in an ever changing world. For example the Old Testament has instructions from God's prophets on how to be a good slave owner. No one in there right mind thinks that was a Divine Law or that we are some how running under a lesser Law because owning slaves is no longer considered a Good moral or ethical option. When it comes to Families the most recent, most clear, and most authoritative instructions I think we have been given is the Proclamation on the Family. It says many important things, but it never declares absolutely that Mothers must stay Home. It declares that Mothers are the primary nurtures and that Fathers are the primary providers.. As a Father who has been listening to the prophets and councils of leaders I know that if I were to because state that because my wife has primary nurturing role that I do not need to do any I would be soundly thoroughly and rightly rebuked. Because that is not what it says. It outlines the general roles and responsibilities and then puts the burden of figuring out the right balance on the parents to figure out in prayerful council. Therefore we should expect our leaders support and encourage any family that is following these instructions. Now some devote followers might say they those with working wives are not really hearing from the Lord in these choices that they are letting there own desires override. That might be true but that is an unrighteous judgement for us to be making about other people. Other devote followers might engage in the sin of comparison. We compare what we feel the Lord as commanded us to do for our families and then unrighteously expect that everyone else must get the same message no matter how different they might be. This makes us more like the the 1st hour labors when they saw the payment of the 11th hour laborers Now the church has clearly counciled in the past the wisdom of mothers being able stay home where possible. I really do not see that as having changed. I do see the church more acknowledging, that sometimes people can have a perfectly acceptable to the Lord (as much as any of us fallen people can be acceptable) family arrangement that is not part of the stereotype. Given how many single parents or families that have to deal with very serious issues within the walls of there own home I am sure for many of them this is great comfort. For those that don't have these struggles then be grateful and count your many blessing rather then being prideful that you are "doing it right" or jealous that they somehow are getting an easier option. For those that are feeling betrayed or that the Church leaders are failing.... REPENT before you stray much farther. We might not like the direction the world is going but it is the last days and it is only going to get worse. God will have his leaders adapt and adjust their counsel as needed as the world continues to fall. If we fixate on past counsels we will miss the vital information the Prophets are giving us now.
    3 points
  39. Yup, I could go on for hours about this. I live in CA so it’s hopefully a local issue, but keeping up with the Jones’s is alive and well here - including the LDS church. My wife has never worked outside the house and we have exclusively homeschooled our children. Although we have 11 children we have never had more then 2 cars. I drive a 9 year old pick-up truck with 150,000 miles, it drives great. I make a good living but It seems like the majority of cars I see on the highway or church parking lot are fancier than mine. I’m a bit of an extrovert but I’m observant. I see LDS mothers returning to get an education or work because - frankly I don’t know… As far as I can tell their husbands have good jobs and can adequately provide for the family. Plastic surgery, therapists, antidepressants, RVs, Ski & fishing boats are aplenty. This is from a father son campout last night. The 3 younger boys in the family. They are all wearing hand-me-downs or clothes from goodwill or ebay. If you notice, they caught this fish without a pole. Trick I learned in Chile, wrap the line around a tin can (or Coke can here in the states). You get the lure going with centrifugal force then release, and line up the long axis of the can with the direction of lure release. Works great. Cheap and functional. Didn’t need a bass boat or a pole. And most of the other children wanted to try it. My backup plan to medical school was highschool teacher and coach. I would have been great. And my J.D. wife would still have stayed home and raised our children.
    3 points
  40. I don't know what to make of it. It feels like we are abandoning truth. Reading comments on the post from working moms who live hectic, chaotic lives as if it's the better way just doesn't ring true to me. How can working full-time be consistent with putting your role as a mother first? Surely, other women/people are supplementing work in the home while you are prioritizing outside work. Surely, you are with co-workers for more hours in the day than you are with your children. It's a tough economy, and women probably have to work now. We can be realists about that and adjust and support each other as a religious community. But I doubt it's a good idea to change the narrative without explaining. It's not good for me to be gaslighted, like I'm the one who misinterpreted very clear messages from past leaders and church publications (not to mention my own experience and social science research).
    3 points
  41. Aaron Sherinian update anyone? @JustAGuy If me, my wife and MiL are noticing that we are presenting a mixed message. There must be others that are confused as well.
    3 points
  42. Yes, absolutely - to the point were each of us individually know which of the 12 tribes of Israel is the tribe from which the blessings flow. For like the first 100 years of the restoration, we'd often refer to the world's population as gentiles, and we did not number ourselves among them. (Our beliefs on the matter haven't changed, but I've noticed it's rare to hear us use the term when talking about people.) We think about the modern holy land, and how 3 of the world's major religions all lay claim to it. But we Mormons also kicked off certain things in 1835: In my ward, we're fortunate to have a Jewish convert, and he's taught our Sunday School Old Testament every 4 years for as long as I can remember. "Jewish" is a set of religious beliefs as well as a group of ethnicities and cultural identification and ancestry. Dude is LDS, but still remains Jewish. Last month he organized our ward's celebration of passover. "Christ in the Passover". A traditional passover feast. Families and kiddos dressed up in old testament-ey attire made out of bedsheets and whatnot. It's a cool thing.
    3 points
  43. To dial down on this a bit, do you see yourself as part of the OT covenant? I ask because most of us who believe God is still working with his people--the Jews--see ourselves, perhaps as grafted into Israel--but more as loosely included. In other words, God has some special dealings with Israel. Many Jews will also convert to a saving knowledge of Yeshua (Jesus). However, we see ourselves as directly under Jesus' protection. So, we ID with the Jews but see ourselves as distinct.
    3 points
  44. Good topic @prisonchaplain! Some times, I'm tempted to think of my church as "the only Christians who pay attention to the old testament". It's encouraging to hear Christians talk about Israel and last days from a position of having studied the OT. We number ourselves among the children of Abraham, inheritors through blood or adoption of the blessings of the covenant. We're also big on the Gathering of Israel talked about in Jeremiah, and figure we're instrumental in that. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-15-the-lords-covenant-people?lang=eng https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-42-the-gathering-of-the-house-of-israel?lang=eng We look for signs of the second coming, and note them as they arrive. Wickedness, war, turmoil? Check. Restoration of the Gospel? Check. Coming forth of the BoM? Check. Gospel preached to the entire world? Mostly checked, in my lifetime. Coming of Elijah from Malachai 4? Check - April 1836. Just two to go: Lehi's descendants becoming a great people, and the building of New Jerusalem in Missouri. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-43-signs-of-the-second-coming?lang=eng
    3 points
  45. I don't speak for anyone but myself. I don't represent the Church nor it's teachings in what I'm about to write. I believe that the Children of the Lord were the children of Israel. They are the covenant people. That did not change. It has never changed. We can ALSO be part of the covenant people, but the Jews, by birthright are ALWAYs the covenant people. The old false myths that they stopped being the chosen people of the Lord because they crucified him is never said in the scriptures. It is never stated. It is a myth. They are STILL the chosen people of the Lord, though their actions may not reflect how he would have them act (as is shown repeatedly in the Bible). You can't go bad supporting his chosen people. We should do well to remember who his Children are. WE CAN be (and hopfully ARE) his children and in so with our covenants, have been saved with his grace into salvation. The Jews may not have that heavenly promise as they have not yet accepted him, but they are still his children while in this mortal state and as such are still the Children of the Lord. Those who stand against the Lord will ultimately perish. Though the Jews may be defeated at times, may even be enslaved, eventually they shall be triumphant and all those who stand with them shall be as well. Edit PS: And just to be clear, this is NOT necessarily anything to do with what Our Church's stance is or what it's teaching is, this is my OWN feelings on the matter.
    3 points
  46. In some cases, I agree. And, yes, there are some people who still hold intersectional prejudices that they shouldn't (that's on both the left and the right). But I don't believe that is societal/systemic. I believe that some people/families have more challenges than others regardless of their intersectionality. And some people (just by luck of the draw) happen to come across more prejudiced individuals than others. Sorry. But that's your cross to bear. Move to a better area. I found some really inspiring stories of black, single moms who lived in downtown Houston who realized that there was more to life than living in a ghetto. So, they searched for months until they found a job in Katy. And she moved there with her kids. Now they have a wonderful, peaceful life away from crime. A black single mom did this on her own. Many such stories. Not really. If you look at first generation Cis-Asian-American men, they often have it really rough. But all people hear about are the success stories -- and there are many of them. And there is a whole long story behind that which most Americans are not aware of. If you're interested, I'll be happy to share that later. But to continue on this thread... I'm glad that you make this admission. But the fact is that I did have an advantage that made things easier for me. And it wasn't identity or money. It is simple DNA. I was born with certain talents and abilities that were clearly present when I was in kindergarten. And they would have shown up in virtually any kindergarten class in America regardless of what identity characteristics my parents had. Some people simply have abilities that others don't. And if we seek equality of outcome, regardless of individual talent, then we're messing up the entire system. We are discouraging people from using their natural talents to the best advantage. And we're encouraging people to demand jobs that they are not qualified for. I admit that there are some of these barriers that you allude to. But in my experience, knowing the stories and backgrounds of MANY people who are black, Hispanic, Native American, etc. (and certainly Asians) who have been treated very badly and had what seem to be insurmountable obstacles. But they made it through. They became successful. Shouldn't? I'm not so certain. It depends on what that barrier is. I'm sure that we both agree that race and sexual orientation shouldn't be barriers. But what if "sexual orientation" now becomes a culture? What if that means that a gay man decides that to be the "real me" he needs to dress like Liberace all the time? Is that appropriate for the workplace? No, we need less distraction, not more. Good. I believe the numbers disagree with you. But regardless, this isn't meant to be. And it shouldn't. The very fact that it is generational means that there are earlier generations who will begin at the bottom. Then they will work their way on up by industry and ingenuity. As you can guess, I'm more of a meritocracy type of person when it comes to professional life and wealth distribution. Not that you should get more simply because of talent alone. You need to actually USE that talent for the benefit of others. The more benefit you give, the more money you should receive. So, meritocracy also includes hard work and effort. But hard work alone with no talent doesn't get you much either. I really have difficulty understanding why people have a problem with that. Actually, that was debunked. Not that it never happened. But it was much more often out of practical and sound financial issues. But I'll just leave it there for now. I haven't looked into that with enough detail to respond at present. I'm aware of the difficulties. I've spent a part of my professional life in city planning. And it is a lot more difficult than you'd think. I'm not sure why this is relevant. My experience has been that after a certain density, it is impossible to have a system that actually works well and satisfies all the goals of infrastructure. Tell me about it. I commute over an hour to and from work when I go in before, and return after, rush hour. I think what you're getting at is that the world is so crowded that we can't get enough people into an acre of land? If so, that isn't because it is impossible. It is because there isn't a societal impetus/priority for it. We have other priorities. If every individual (not household, but individual) had an acre of land, that would take up about 2% of the land mass of the 48 states and about 100% of the arable land of the US. But that would be increased by individuals with land that they can irrigate. There is plenty of land. But people want so many amenities that they can only find them all if you live close to a city. It's a question of proper priorities. I'm not sure that you've really made a case for what those barriers really are. That truly is wonderful. The very fact that there are pathways out (for even the most destitute of individuals) tells me that the barriers you mention aren't all that difficult to overcome. Just because one roadway is blocked off, doesn't mean we can't use the next roadway that is wide-open. Yes, there is. Charities and individuals will always do this type of thing more efficiently and more successfully than government. That is something that we are going to disagree on. For me, people and communities (like churches and charities) are the solution to these problems, not the government. Totally agree. I believe that we disagree on what that "little boost" should consist of. Totally agree.
    3 points
  47. This is a miracle of modern technology. As Albert Allen Barrett's landmark 1978 paper said, "Modern agriculture is the use of land to convert petroleum into food." (Note that Barrett, a professor of physics, was a committed Malthusianist. I'm not saying I agree with all of his opinions or conclusions. But his remark about modern agriculture being the conversion of petroleum into food is right on the mark.) Without modern farming methods, we would already be well beyond the so-called carrying capacity of the earth for human beings, which various estimates for traditional farming methods seem to put at 1-2 billion. Those of us on this list, indeed the whole world's population, can thank modern intensive farming for our very lives.
    3 points
  48. These are my personal observations. Take them for what they seem worth to you. There are two types of men: Those that understand women on an emotional level Those that do not understand women, but naively assume that women are emotionally pretty much like men, only more prone to tears The second group is far larger than the first. Most temple-worthy Latter-day Saint men find themselves in Camp 2. Your husband is statistically likely to be a Camp Twoer. Men can also be divided (roughly) into two camps along another axis, namely, how they feel toward women: Those that respect women Those that do not truly respect women as people, but see them as things to be used to achieve their own ends. Call these Camp A and Camp B. Curiously, at least in my experience, Camp A seems at least as large as Camp B, and probably larger, both inside and outside the Church. To hear women talk about it, you would never guess that to be the case, but I think it is. Some men call themselves "pick-up artists". These men are usually from Camp 1 and almost always from Camp B. Women find these guys irresistable. Why? In part at least, it's because they are from Camp 1 and understand women. And because these men are also from Camp B, they use their understanding of women to get into their panties. For them, that's the game. They are expert flirts. For women, flirting is a game to see if they (the women) can garner external validation. For men (at least for the PAs), flirting is a game to see if they (the men) can successfully seduce the women. This is a dangerous, volatile situation. The women involved in flirting may not consciously be looking for a sexual "hook-up", and may even believe they want to avoid that. But they are craving that emotional validation, and the men (at least the PAs) know exactly how to feed that hunger. Many women have found themselves in bed with a man they don't know and/or don't even like because they "followed their heart" (meaning their emotions) into the bedroom. Odds are that you would not follow through and cheat on your husband. But let's be clear: You're playing with fire and stand a nonzero chance of getting burned. If you view your marriage through a gospel lens, you will consider it of infinite importance, and would not risk its integrity to get some attention any more than you would risk your child's life to get some thrills. Whether or not the other guy was a PA is beside the point, at least as far as that goes. (By the way, women divide into the same two sets of camps as men. Like men, most women dwell in Camp 2, which is why women so often naively and wrongly claim that men are "emotionally stunted" or some nonsense of the sort; they expect men to be women that shave their faces. However, my observation is that women are pretty equally divided between Camps A and B, and if anything tend more toward Camp B. Men are and always have been viewed by women as caretakers. As a result, women view men quite dispassionately—many men would say ruthlessly—as to what the men can offer to the woman. This is most obvious when talking with young women in their late teens and twenties. If Carb had listened to his sister's friends much longer, he likely would eventually have heard conversation that would have included the women objectifying men, including their husbands, to a shocking degree. Not all women do this, of course; my wife never does. But if men stay quiet and pay attention to what women say in public and in private, many of them will be amazed at what they hear. Women are not the people we men often think they are. More to the point, women are not the people we men have been taught that they are.)
    3 points
  49. We got another one. My wife was following him prior to his baptism. He loved the temple open houses. Our clear communication. And Robins (the birds).
    3 points
  50. Let's try a different set of numbered points: 1. You passed. You were tempted but you stayed true to your marriage, your vows, your faith. Not only did you not break the Law of Chastity, but you were tested and passed. 2. We men should value the women in our lives more. If we don't treasure our treasures, there are always others who will. 3. It speaks well of you that your husband trusts you take such long journeys without him. His discernment appears to be spot on. 4. Don't allow your desire for more attention to turn to bitterness. Again, we men should do better. Perhaps your husband should. 5. Nevertheless, don't underestimate what you have. 16 years? Three children? Blessings all! You did it together. Love/respect him openly. You'll be reassured.
    3 points