estradling75

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  1. estradling75

    Question on "Faith Crisis"

    I hear what you are saying... But you are excluding "What do you think God wants you to do" from your calculations. And as long as you exclude God you will have problems in faith oriented environments. If you believe that God wants you in fellowship with others (which the Church teaches)(aka they are valuable because God commands it if for no other reason) the answer for either A or B should be "yes continue". However if either A or B conclude God does not care about them fellowshipping then they can break it and there is not much the other can do about it. So if comes down to Do you believe that God wants/commands you to go to church? If yes, then you obey. If your reasons for fellowshipping have nothing to do with following God's commands then you are following an idol of your own making and it will lead you elsewhere. And if you do not know what God wants you to do... well that is what prayer and scripture study is for.
  2. estradling75

    Question on "Faith Crisis"

    I understand that feeling... but it is not in anyway what I mean. Everyone that tries to be a follower of Christ is expected to trying to be Christ-like in all things like compassion, mercy, patience, tolerance etc. We also know that we all sin and fall short. We fail and sometimes we fail hard. If our faith is dependent on the actions others, of them not falling, it is a form of idolatry. It is also a position of powerlessness, because we surrender our agency to another. The only position of power, of agency, and of worship of the true and living God, is to act as best you can on the truths you know no matter what others do. This is not to say that those who sin and fall short some how get away with it. This is not the case. But rather principal of forgiveness is to surrender our claims for justice, redress of wrongs, and legitimate grievances to the Lord (and depending on the nature of the sin to proper mortal authorities), and say to the Lord "Thy will be done and not mine". This is hard to do. In fact it is often a lesson we need to learn and relearn many times. But this is how we can sit an a pew across from the loud mouth, opinionated person we disagree with, who (at least in our eyes) is failing hard.
  3. estradling75

    Question on "Faith Crisis"

    That is were the failure occurs. It is not up to the Church or any Church member to "deal" with your comfort or uncomfortableness... It is on you. Both the most Faithful and the most Faithless have questions and things they do not understand or know. Thus questions and lack of knowledge is not the problem. Its the lack of faith Both of these types of people can ask fundamentally the same question but it is the faith or lack thereof that makes the difference. (For without faith it is impossible to please God) Take for example the Angel Gabriel announcements of pending births to Zechariah and Mary. Both had serious questions on how they might have a child given their situations. Yet the angels response to what was basically the same question "How" was very very different. Mary had faith and Zechariah basically did not and the Angel responded accordingly. Now members and the leaders of Church are flawed and imperfect... But it is easy to see how a statement of "I do not believe that" versus "I am not there yet" would be taken differently. Even though at the fundamental level they say express the same lack of knowledge/testimony.
  4. estradling75

    Biden Corruption Emails

    So the @NeedleinA poll is predicting a landslide Trump victory. 🤣 But we also have to accept that ThirdHour is a highly self selecting demographic... and thus has a serious bias. But maybe that is what we are seeing in the polls. If you want to sample a lot of people you go to major cities. Major Cities tend to be another kind of highly self selecting demographic, but one that leans Left/Democratic Party.
  5. estradling75

    Biden Corruption Emails

    That is a very good question. As far as I know I have seen no evidence for former Trump voters moving away from Trump. And yet people are Polling, predicting and expecting a landslide for Biden. What evidence do they see that we do not? It seems that it would be a bit Myopic to dismiss it all as mere wish fulfillment.
  6. estradling75

    Biden Corruption Emails

    I wonder if there might be a bit of confirmation bias. You see that. The Left/Dems see people leaving Trump. We dismiss the later (because we do not see it... but we really wouldn't) but believe the former (because it matches our experiences).
  7. estradling75

    Biden Corruption Emails

    I am also one who did not vote for Trump last time who is considering it this time (although I still wish I had better options) I am not so sure it is that easy. Hilary won the popular vote, Trump won the electoral vote (the one that matters) Some of those votes were narrowly in Trumps favor... a targeted "get out the vote" to "swing" areas might just swing them the other way. I all know for certain is that "Everyone" was saying that Hilary would win in 2016... and they were wrong. And now "Everyone" is saying that Biden will win... yet they can not make any claim that Trump is some how weaker this time around. I see no reason to believe what "Everyone" is saying because I see no signs that there predictive abilities have improved.
  8. estradling75

    Biden Corruption Emails

    I disagree... Trump won the last election... and it was very polarized back then too. Trump has been exactly the president that his followers expected. So I really doubt he has lost any votes that he already had. For Biden to win he has to pull most the non Trump voters from 2016. While there are many polarized anti Trumpers out there... can Biden get all the polarized anti-Trumper and undecideds from 2016? That remains to be seen. Stuff like this hurts him. If it did not, and no one thought it would... there would be no Social Media suppression of the story.
  9. That is where I was going to go with it. The night without darkness is hard to explain scientifically because we lack any kind of evidence (except for the testimony of the Book of Mormon itself) Where as the wise men also saw the sign in the Heavens of Christ's birth and acted on it. This seemed to be a sign that was clear to those watching but otherwise not remarkable... It is natural to assume they were one and the same but they seem very different, and I am not even sure they are the same mechanism.
  10. I know you are joking... But that is a level of Apocalypse invocation that I am not comfortable with <Steps as far away from Traveler as he can get.> The Stars and the Heavens are explicitly setup by God for Signs, Warning and Season. So watching the Heavens is wise, just beware of Satan's counterfeit of astrology. Given that Planets anciently meant "Wandering Stars" I tend to lean toward the planet Conjunction theory myself but that is just a personal thing. And if we are looking for Apocalypse pointing signs in the Heavens there is Revelations 12: 1-2 which some make the case for having already happened.
  11. When the Silence in Heaven Ends (Beginning of the Seventh Seal) this is what the Doctrine and Covenants has to say: Section 88 If your friend is right and this happens would verse 97 count as zombies for those playing Apocalypse Bingo?
  12. estradling75

    Trump COVID19 positive

    So if the Dems get the Executive and Legislative Branches, they will take the Judicial one as well
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    Trump COVID19 positive

    So to pack the Court what do they need. Clearly the Presidency and the Senate... do they need the House to? And it is a stupid move anyways.. Because the Party in Power changes hands often... once this barrier is broken then both parties will do in and the Court will inflate to the size of the House of Representatives
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    Trump COVID19 positive

    I would be interested how a gender swapped VP debate would come across to the women I have heard from
  15. estradling75

    Trump COVID19 positive

    Because you think like a man... (So do I so that is not intended as a dig). Historically Women have been oppressed for a very long time... Its taken a lot of effort to swing that pendulum toward equally... But as the Presidential Debate showed men do not always treat each other very nice either. Sadly women do not see this, or they see it but still believe/hope they can get all the advantaged of begin treated like a man but none of the downsides. This is not a rational or logical position but rather an extremely emotional one. No matter who is doing it is very human to want all the advantages and none of the disadvantages of what is expected of you. And to only see all the advantages and none of the disadvantages that others face.