mikbone

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    Amateur Astronomy, Cliff Jumping, Vintage Video Games (Robotron 2084 is my favorite), Sci-Fi / Fantasy Books, Good Movies, LDS Doctrine
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  1. mikbone

    Boring General Conference

    Being nice to your neighbor would fix slave trade, government corruption, etc. But people are not listening...
  2. I did some long fasts on my mission. 48, 72, & an 84 hour fast without food or water. After the 2nd day your arent even hungry anymore, just weak. It certainly makes you closer to the spirit. And on the 84 hour fast my companion & I had the opportunity to give a blessing on a gentleman with an illness. Never felt the spirit stronger in my life. Currently, I'm overweight and the wife has imposed a strict Ketone diet. The human body can endure much. God was not messing around when He made man. Check out the book Unbroken. What's even crazier is that the pregnant women in concentration camps gave birth to healthy babies.
  3. mikbone

    Mosiah 26:23

    Them is us. Ether Chapter 3 14 Behold, I am he who was prepared from the foundation of the world to redeem my people. Behold, I am Jesus Christ. I am the Father and the Son. In me shall all mankind have life, and that eternally, even they who shall believe on my name; and they shall become my sons and my daughters. 15 And never have I showed myself unto man whom I have created, for never has man believed in me as thou hast. Seest thou that ye are created after mine own image? Yea, even all men were created in the beginning after mine own image.
  4. mikbone

    So... Easter

    You could do a write-up on Passover instead of Easter. I have been studying Passover and it is a bit more of a religious holiday than the modern-day secular celebration of Easter. Passover hits hard on why we have tears of bitterness (2020 COVID, disasters, etc.) and teaches us to remember our hardships so we can relish the blessings that we now have and those that we will be blessed with in the future.
  5. CORDELIA Unhappy that I am, I cannot heave My heart into my mouth. I love your majesty According to my bond, no more nor less. LEAR How, how, Cordelia? Mend your speech a little, 95Lest you may mar your fortunes. CORDELIA      Good my lord, You have begot me, bred me, loved me. I Return those duties back as are right fit— Obey you, love you, and most honor you. Why have my sisters husbands if they say 100They love you all? Haply when I shall wed That lord whose hand must take my plight shall carry Half my love with him, half my care and duty. Sure, I shall never marry like my sisters, To love my father all.
  6. mikbone

    Passover

    @Vort Yeah, I found a huge amount of variation and inconsistencies. It seems that you can almost make it what you want it to be, and it can be quite lavish or humble. It reinforces the idea that your thoughts and actions are what make it special. I like microgreens from the garden (I hate parsley - it's a garnish that I throw off any plate at the first chance), romaine lettuce seems like it is commonly used as well as horseradish root, but I saw some people use potatoes... Last year we didn't even use a seder plate, we just had the ingredients available and went thru the steps.
  7. mikbone

    Passover

    I have always been interested in the Jewish traditions, especially the ones with which Jesus participated. Anyway, last year we held the Passover celebration (albeit with a Latter-Day Saint twist), and it was wonderful. It is considerably more religious than traditional US celebrations of both Easter and Christmas... Has anyone else ever tried the same? It took me quite some time to put together the materials and I'm sure that I made all kinds of mistakes. Even though I don't think of myself as Jewish, we are of the House of Israel... And remembering the trials and mistakes of our forefathers plus their redemption is always a good thing. Passover this year is March 27 - April 4. We will celebrate the Seder on Sunday the 28th. At the very least it does get us ready for General Conference and reminds us of family and Jesus Christ. The children loved it. Passover Instructions.docx
  8. I want to add 2 scriptures. JSH 1:17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him! I'm pretty sure that the Hear Him movement originates from this scripture. John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: Sheep do not understand English, Aramaic, Hebrew, or Greek. But they obviously can pick out their Shepherd's voice and follow him. Thus we don't necessarily have to Hear His voice in our ears or mind and interpret the words in order to follow him. Perhaps we just need to perceive the Holy Ghost promptings and the Light of Christ - AND follow.
  9. I love your questions. And I think that these are some of the most important questions that we have. One of my favorite quotes from Joseph Smith is the following. “my first object is, to find out the character of the only wise and true God" Joseph Smith Jr., Times and Seasons Minutes, General Conference April 7, 1844 Personally, I think that the "Him" is Jesus Christ. When you read the scriptures, do you try to differentiate who is the speaker? Do you recognize when the words are Christ's, or Elohim. What do Jesus Christ's words sound like (in your mind) when you read them? He sounds pretty amazing to me (as I read the scriptures). I have personally never heard the words of God (be it the Father, Son, or Holy Ghost) speaking in my mind. But I hope that I hear HIS voice. And I perceive the Light of Christ and the promptings of the Holy Ghost. BTW, one of my pet peeves is when LDS refer to Jesus Christ as our Elder Brother. It has been stated that it is not inappropriate to refer to him as a brother. But by golly the scriptures are full of passages referring to him as a Father. I can't find a single scripture that refers to him as our elder brother...
  10. mikbone

    advance planning for plan of salvation

    https://www.wired.com/2014/07/homer-simpson-car/
  11. mikbone

    Rending the Veil of Unbelief

    A spirit child is a personage of spirit. No tangible matter that is discernable by scientific means. "There is no such thing as immaterial matter. All spirit is matter, but it is more fine or pure, and can only be discerned by purer eyes; we cannot see it; but when our bodies are purified we shall see that it is all matter" (D&C 131:7-8). Heavenly Father on the other hand has a body of flesh and bone. D&C 130:22 The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.
  12. mikbone

    Rending the Veil of Unbelief

    Dunno... From Ether 3:1 Mahonri decided that he would need a light at each end of the barges which required sixteen sources of light. Mahonri then settled on the idea to fabricate white transparent glass out of molten rock. I did a little research on the complexities of creating glass with seaside primitive technology, and it ain't easy! Silicon dioxide or quartz, the main ingredient of sand, melts at 3000° F. If you add sodium carbonate (soda ash - the residue from burning plants grown in sodium rich soil), you can lower the melting point to 2600° F. But that temperature is unobtainable with a simple fire. To create that heat, a foundry is required. Much like Nephi, Mahonri had to manufacture charcoal, a furnace, bellows, crucibles, and mine ore just so he could create the tools required to make the glass. [1 NE 17:8-11] I don’t know how long it took Mahonri to produce all sixteen stones but I assume that it would have taken multiple months. I am also sure that when he had accomplished his goal, he was filled with a deep sense of satisfaction. (see the last sentence of v. 3) More than likely during this prolonged time of study and fabrication, Mahonri was contemplating how he would implore the Lord to imbue the stones with light. And, I think that when Mahonri made the specific request, v. 4 "touch these stones, O Lord, with thy finger" that it was no offhand remark. I think that Mahonri wanted to see the hand of God. And more than likely, he went over in his mind how this interaction would go. He likely assumed that he would witness a glorified Godly hand. But as we know from Ether 3:6 it appeared "as the finger of a man, like unto flesh and blood". Ether 3:9 the following is my intrepretation: There should be a gap between Ether 3:8 and Ether 3:9 because something happens between the two verses. After Mahonri answered Jehovah’s question, Mahonri must have been inspired and comforted by the Holy Ghost. Mahonri’s fears had been alleviated and he began to understand and feel the love of God as never before. Mahonri then made a final and impressive intuitive leap. Mahonri recalled the animal sacrifices that he had performed, and the record of Adam. And for the first time in history of mankind, the revelation as found in Moses 5:6-9 was correctly interpreted. Mahonri had a vision, wherein he saw the condescension of God and understood why animal sacrifice is a similitude of the sacrifice of the Only Begotten. I assume that this information struck Mahonri heavily. The Lord then explained that it was because of Mahonri’s faith that he was able to receive this vision, and that never previously had man come to this understanding. Jehovah praised Mahonri’s insight and explained that yes - just as you assumed - I will become mortal and thus subject unto death. And then Jehovah asks a final leading question, “Sawest thou more than this?”
  13. mikbone

    #GiveThanks

    Third Hour is the only social media with which I participate... 11/20 I'm thankful for: my family, our health, prophets and scriptures, the cosmos, good food, technology, trials and growth. 11/21 Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost. The ability to experience life and still overcome our mistakes and sins. The power of love, sacrifice and determination. 11/22 The wonder and excitement of childhood, the power and beauty of youth, and the wisdom and knowledge of maturity. 11/23 For the insight to see the Hand of God in both Science and the Arts. It has only been in the last century that we have been able to look into the sub-atomic level and recognize that the Universe is tens of billions of light-years across. I love being able to read a book, appreciate a painting, or watch a movie that can remind me of the love of God and our limitless potential. 11/24 A sincere smile, a laugh that broadens the soul, and a sense of humor. 11/25 Traditions, holidays and weekends. 11/26 Gravy #GiveThanks
  14. mikbone

    Rending the Veil of Unbelief

    I think you misunderstand my comprehension of Ether 3. A thorough reading of the text explains that Mahonri initially misinterpreted what he thought he was seeing. Mahonri assumed that he was seeing a mortal body of flesh and blood (and this misconception is integral to understanding the chapter). It isn't until verse 16 that Jehovah corrects Mahonri's incorrect assumption. And, in verse 17, that Moroni attempts to further explain what type of body that Mahonri had witnessed. I have a detailed explanation, unfortunately it is a wall of text.
  15. mikbone

    Rending the Veil of Unbelief

    Oh, Im not quibbling with Elder Holland. I'm agreeing with him. It was just a technicality. D&C 129 is an excellent explanation of the difference between resurrected personages vs just man made perfect. I still like Jehovah for the Genesis 32 passage though. It could not have been a pre-mortal spirit nor a Just Man made perfect. Although, as you say, it could have been a mortal man or a translated being such as a man from the City of Enoch.