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  1. mikbone

    Why Eternal Progression?

    “Destiny is not a matter of chance; it is a matter of choice. It is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved.” ― William Jennings Bryan
  2. mikbone

    Why Eternal Progression?

    D&C 122: 7 know thou, my son, that all these things shall give thee experience, and shall be for thy good. When one understands the setting of this scriptures, one must ask... What does the future hold for us? Why would we need such awful experiences. How can this possibly be for my good? Im my opinion, when we get to heaven we will not be presented with a cornucopia, harp, and fluffy bathrobe. More likely we get a personal Urim and Thummim with the entire library of knowledge. And some heavy duty work clothes. I can't freakin wait, for the undiscovered country.
  3. mikbone

    Why Eternal Progression?

    Every end is just a new beginning. Watch out, that light at the end of the tunnel could be an oncoming train. As a physician I see lots of patients. When people decide to slow down and stop their regular activities they start dying.
  4. mikbone

    Why Eternal Progression?

    Book 4 comes out soon. Im so excited. https://www.brandonsanderson.com/ 82% thru the 1st draft! Journey before Destination! Live it Love it Learn it.
  5. mikbone

    Mary’s age

    When one is making grave criminal charges, either directly or by broad implication as all anti-Mormon writers do, questions of evidence can be very bothersome unless one has the wisdom and foresight to avoid all such questions. Surprisingly enough this can be done rather easily [as we shall illustrate] . . . in a situation which we shall call “The House That Jack Built”: 1. It is common knowledge that Jack built a house. It is that house which we are now discussing. 2. There are rumors that a good deal of malt—very probably stolen—was stored in the house. What lends plausibility to the report is the building of the house itself—by Jack. Why a house, if not to store the stolen malt? 3. It is said that the malt was eaten by rats, and in view of the high nutriment content of malt (see Appendix A for references to scholarly and scientic studies proving beyond a doubt that malt is nutritious), there is no good reason for doubting this report. 4. The rats may very possibly have been killed by a cat, as some believe, and there is certainly nothing intrinsically improbable in the event. On the contrary, studies made at the Rodent Institute of the University of So and So, etc. . . . The report that only one rat ate the malt is of course erroneous, since the consumption of such a large quantity of malt would require many years and probably a large number ofrats. 5. That the cat was chased by a dog is only to be expected. Only a fanatic would question it. 6. The same applies to the dog’s being tossed by a cow, though it is admittedly a less common event. 7. “At any rate” (a very useful expression) we can be reasonably certain that the cow was milked by a milkmaid— what other kind of maid could it have been?—and also (since there is no good reason to doubt it) that the milkmaid, whose name may have been Bertha, was wooed by a man all tattered and torn. There are unmistakable references in the newspapers of the time (or at most a generation later) to poorly dressed men known as “tramps”roaming parts of the country. There can therefore be little doubt that Bertha was engaged in a passionate public wooing. 8. The exact date of Bertha’s marriage to hertatterdemalion loveris not known, though it may have been some time late in January 1858. Certainly the courtrecords of the time are silent on any earlier orlater marriage. 9. Though there is no direct evidence that Bertha was mistreated by the man who wooed her so passionately, there is every evidence of cruel neglect both in the proven fact that Bertha apparently had no house to live in (at least there is no record of her having a house in the county archives) and in the character of the man who married and abused her. It will hardly be necessary to point out to the student the solid advantage of such little touches as “the exact date” . . . in No. 8. Since no date at all is known, it is perfectly true to say that the exact date is not known, implying that an approximate date is known: “it may have been in January 1858″—true again, perfectly true—it may also have been in September 1902 or May 1320. Again, if there is no evidence whateverthat Bertha was mistreated (or even that she existed), it is both shrewd and correct to say that there is no direct evidence, implying, while not saying, that there is plenty of indirect evidence. Let the student check the above ten points for evidence. There is none! We have given the world a suffering Bertha and her brutal spouse without having to prove a thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_the_House_That_Jack_Built
  6. mikbone

    Mary’s age

    I know that there is limited data within the scriptures to pin-point the exact age of Mary or Joseph. But to depict them as a newlywed couple from todays standards gives me the creeps. Today people don't want to have get married and even think about having children till they are financially secure. Median age of first marriage 2019 - Men 30, Women 28 Median age of first marriage 1970 - Men 23, Women 20 Before birth control (contraceptives and abortions) many couples had much larger families than today. https://qz.com/1099800/average-size-of-a-us-family-from-1850-to-the-present/ I know that western culture is not willing to cope with truths as @Just_A_Guy mentioned. But I would like the Church to break from the mold of political correctness. I'd like to see Adam and Eve younger too. Although seeing an 70+ y/o mature woman play Eve in the Salt Lake Temple was a nice departure from the regular narrative.
  7. mikbone

    Mary’s age

    https://askgramps.org/how-old-was-mary-when-she-gave-birth-to-jesus/ We watched the new “The Christ Child” A nativity story, and I couldn’t enjoy the production as much as I should have because of the incongruity. I loved that they used the original language instead of English. But was irritated that Mary was cast as a woman in her 20’s and Joseph as a man in his 30’s.
  8. It was not given at a funeral. Elder King Follett had been buried a month prior to this general conference talk. The family members asked him for some words of consolation and Joseph Smith mentioned him. But the talk covers many more topics then Elder King Follett. https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/41eb/bf581318d7b8e2917760160a04297d19684d.pdf https://byustudies.byu.edu/file/4607/download?token=Gblh_XFE
  9. Sorry I misquoted it. “If men don not comprehend the character of God, they do not comprehend themselves.” KFD - Nickname given to Joseph Smith’s final general conference talk. Stands for King Follett Discourse.
  10. Here are two quotes from Joseph Smith Jr. If men don not comprehend the character of God, they do not comprehend themselves. KFD AND My first object is, to find out the character of the only wise and true God. KFD The doctrine of the LDS Church is based upon revelation. From the Bible, Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, and the Doctrine & Covenants. One must recognize that Joseph Smith had a monumental part in organizing and producing the doctrine of the Church. Joseph Smith is the Latter-Day Saint Prophet that gives us the best and most complete witness of Jesus Christ. It is probably best to assume that all other commentaries that seem to detract from Joseph Smith's testimony are just that, personal commentaries.
  11. Joseph Smith Jr. D&C 93:21 And now, verily I say unto you, I was in the beginning with the Father, and am the Firstborn;
  12. mikbone

    Divine identity of Jesus

    https://rsc.byu.edu/archived/pearl-great-price-revelations-god/doctrine-firstborn-and-only-begotten I have found this document enlightening concerning the term begotten.
  13. mikbone

    How would you answer this?

    https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1838-1856-volume-e-1-1-july-1843-30-april-1844/123 The above is the document that President Oaks referred to as the Joseph Smith funeral sermon in 1843. It discusses both issues in question.
  14. I have no idea. First Vision Bicentennial. Im sure we will focus on the life and teachings of Joseph Smith as well as Jesus Christ. I expect that the D&C will get an expansion. I would love to see some of Joseph Smith’s later conference talks to become canonized. As well as the The Proclamation & The Living Christ. Maybe the new hymnal Can’t wait.