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Christ was Crucified on Thursday
Vort replied to Third Hour's topic in Third Hour Article Discussion
We say that it fulfills the prophecies because we have to. We have no alternative if we are to (1) believe the scriptures to be the word of God and (2) accept that Jesus was crucified on Friday. If it were to be revealed to us that the ideas given in the TH article are true and that Jesus was actually put to death on Thursday, we would very soon roll our eyes at the whole manufactured "28 hours is actually three days if you know how to count right" argument that has traditionally been put forth. -
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...the care you put into your craftsmanship... Best wishes, 2RM.
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Christ was Crucified on Thursday
anatess2 replied to Third Hour's topic in Third Hour Article Discussion
Right. I was just replying to your statement that the Friday crucifixion "doesn't quite fulfill the prophecies". It does. And the OP's alternate reading also does. -
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Christ was Crucified on Thursday
MrShorty replied to Third Hour's topic in Third Hour Article Discussion
@anatess2 Sure, that is the other explanation used to explain what the prophecies mean by 3 days. Like the OP's position, if it were as compelling as some say it is, then the alternative explanations would not exist. I find it interesting that different viable explanation exist and that they can coexist peacefully (most of the time) in Christianity. And, as you say, it is not a theologically significant thing. Just like with other scriptural/theological minutiae -- Was Christ born on Apr. 6 BC1 or not? Was Noah's flood truly global or merely local? Was Jonah really swallowed by a whale or is that fiction? Hemispheric BoM geography or a small scale geography? -- Different opinions and explanations abound, and they try to coexist within the Church. -
8 Reasons Gasoline Prices Are Going Up in America
unixknight replied to Still_Small_Voice's topic in General Discussion
The same is true for retailers here. If you take a typical franchise gas station like Exxon for example, it works like this: The land the station sits on is owned by Exxon. The business itself is owned by a private business which rents the land from Exxon. (Maybe the building too, I'm not sure.) They also have to buy their fuel from Exxon as part of the franchise agreement. It used to be very common to see an auto repair shop attached to gas stations, but convenience stores have a much higher profit margin with lower risk so most of them converted form shops to retail. But yeah, whenever I get annoyed at fuel prices I think about our cousins across the Atlantic and I feel a little better. -
The Constitution: I can't think of a better argument for Homeschool
anatess2 replied to Mores's topic in General Discussion
You can't get away from State oversight because the purpose of Public Schooling in the first place is to guarantee that your voting public can read and understand your laws. If you're going to take the fully Libertarian view of - the State has zero oversight on whether my kid actually passed 3rd grade when he applied for a job flipping burgers at McDonald's - then sure, you can take that position. I disagree with that under the principle that if the State allows people to vote, then I want some assurance that these people are educated enough to understand what they're voting for. And especially if we're talking about your desire for tax credit. I wouldn't want people taking tax credit for 12 years in home schools when after 12 years we have zero idea if that kid spent the last 12 years doing nothing else but playing Fornite. -
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8 Reasons Gasoline Prices Are Going Up in America
KScience replied to Still_Small_Voice's topic in General Discussion
First I need to admit to not having read all of the posts in this thread. But thought I might give you some perspective on fuel prices. In the UK we are currently paying about £1.35 a litre = @3.8 litres per US gallon = £5.10 per gallon. Conversion for currency = ~ $6.60 And we are enjoying a fall in prices over the last 3/4 years, I can remember prices up to £1.60 a litre. A large percentage of the fuel cost is tax - Fuel duty is currently levied at a flat rate of 57.95p per litre , whilst VAT (value added tax added to all purchases except for a few exempt goods in the UK) at 20% is then charged on the total price (the product price + the fuel duty). Retailers have a very small margin and make more money on goods and produce sold in the shop. The taxes are obviously a significant government income stream and rises are lobbied for on environmental grounds. The bottom line is we pay because we have to, and suck it up because there is no other choice. OH and drive small cars Enjoy your cheap fuel -
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The Constitution: I can't think of a better argument for Homeschool
Vort replied to Mores's topic in General Discussion
Because it puts homeschooling under the thumb of the state. "Common core" is a good example of that. As for so-called public funding, I'm in favor of that. But I'm even more in favor of not taking the money in the first place by giving homeschooling families tax credit. -
Christ was Crucified on Thursday
anatess2 replied to Third Hour's topic in Third Hour Article Discussion
3 days in the Tomb in the olden days doesn't mean 72-hours in the tomb. 1 hour before sundown is considered THAT day. 1 hour after sundown is considered the next day... so anything that happened 2 hours after the first event that happened 1 hour before sundown is the 2nd day. Make sense? So, one hour after the next sundown would be the 3rd day. In any case... WHEN Jesus was laid in the tomb and arose is not really important, so Thursday or Friday doesn't matter. What matters is that he rose again on the 3rd day to fulfill his atoning mission. -
Sis here.
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Nonbeliever's questions about your faith
Jane_Doe replied to Madam_Mim's topic in General Discussion
You're approaching this as if God were some arbitrary law giver. No: God is the way to salvation-- His ways *are* the ultimate love, charity, goodness. He's telling us to do things because they are good and help us become the best person possible. In addition to the guidelines He gives us, He is also going to wipe away stains, and empower/enable us to be better. Somebody who rejects God and His ways might be a decent person today, and even a good person by our tiny flawed mortal standards -- I know lots of folks that fit that description. But in the ultimate big eternal picture, if they choose a path other God's, then it is a lesser path and they will be trying to fix things on their own (which is impossible). Such a person will have glory, but it is the smallest glory of the telestrial kingdom. -
The Constitution: I can't think of a better argument for Homeschool
anatess2 replied to Mores's topic in General Discussion
Why would you think that? You don't want the state to fund your home school? I thought home schoolers are all yay for that thing. At least they do here in Florida. -
The Constitution: I can't think of a better argument for Homeschool
Vort replied to Mores's topic in General Discussion
Sounds like a horrible thing. -
Yes and no. The overall skeleton of what you're saying is correct. But there are problems with the definitions and characterizations. What is your definition of "THE prime example of a good person"? You've said "Helped others." Helped them do what? Donating money? To what cause? Saving lives? That's ok. But what is the motive behind it? Followed what commandments? "Went" to church. But did not get any closer to God because of it? Sounds like you're talking about someone "going through the motions" again.
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Seconded. I have a leftist friend who actually thinks it's a virtue to not understand the opposing views. That's right, ignorance is a virtue. And yes, he's one example, he typically points to his sources for that attitude. The Atlantic, The Guardian, etc. He regards any public conversation about conservative ideas to be "giving a platform to hate" because that's how it's expressed in the media he consumes. He, like the mayor of Berkeley, is perfectly at ease with Antifa's efforts to forcibly shut down events with conservative speakers because to him, they're defending freedom against Nazis, no different than the warriors who stormed the beaches of Normandy. "Stop exaggerating, unixknight." I am doing no such thing. This guy expressed to me how weird he thinks it is that I'm "defending Nazis" when I express my views on free speech.
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The Constitution: I can't think of a better argument for Homeschool
anatess2 replied to Mores's topic in General Discussion
Well, if we're going to do blue vs red... Most blue states only have a few highly-populated counties that are Blue. The rest of the counties are Red. And blue places like the Silicon Valley have highly educated parents educated by other states. Anyway, these correlations are idiotic. Just as idiotic as crime-ridden cities are Democrats. Hello, Vermont. -
This is non sequitur. If I create a computer program, that doesn't mean I define the rules of logic on which the program runs, or the machine op codes into which the program is decoded. Foreseeing is a different matter. Certainly God foresees everything; it may be that he experiences the future in a "present" way. I mean, I don't know, because I'm not God and I'm not a celestial person. But yes, God foresees everything. And if God creates something ex nihilo (that is, from nothing), then without argument God is responsible for how that thing operates, be it a rock, a star, or a human being. But the common Christian/Jewish/Muslim doctrine of creatio ex nihilo is self-negating nonsense. God doesn't create "from nothing". That includes us. We ourselves are self-existent beings, and in that sense, we are co-equal with God himself. God created our spirits, and he created our bodies; but the essence of ourselves, which in LDS doctrine is called "intelligence", is uncreated. Doctrine and Covenants Section 93 teaches us: Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be. We are not God's puppets. We are beings of agency, gifted with the ability to choose our paths. We do not forge those paths; we simply follow them. The choice is ours, and by that token, we must choose carefully, at the peril of our eternal happiness. There's a quick lesson in LDS Doctrine 101.
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I will ask again. Will you openly condemn the leftist efforts at shutting down conservatives right to free speech?
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This is a great place to find folks interested in getting closer to Christ. What are your ideas?
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Eating disorder after the divorce... alternatives?
KScience replied to B.cole2's topic in Marriage and Relationship Advice
YOu have been given lots of good advice about eating, but I would question if your behaviour is due to underlying depression which needs dealing with. Its difficult to fight either comfort eating or depression and I would encourage you to seek appropriate professional help, you dont need to go through this alone. -
Or the Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator. Now we're talking SCIENCE!!!
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Well done to you and your husband. I am glad that you are both already feeling the effects of meeting with your Bishop. Love, hugs and prayers
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The Constitution: I can't think of a better argument for Homeschool
anatess2 replied to Mores's topic in General Discussion
It is in Florida. We've had School Choice since I've been looking for schools. My oldest is graduating senior year in a few weeks, so at least 12 years now. How it works - we have the Public School Magnet Program - that is, if you don't want to go to the neighborhood school, you can apply for the Magnet School of your choice. Magnet Schools have specific "specialization" - for example, the Montessori. Neighborhood Schools can be Magnet Schools (like our neighborhood school is an Agriculture magnet), but there are also pure Magnet Schools (you have to pass certain criteria to enter) like the Arts School (have to pass auditions). Charter Schools, Virtual Schools (Florida accredited online school, used a lot by the RV-lifers), Paced Schools (the school has a flexible schedule - used a lot by Military and those that end up staying in a hospital and not in school for months at a time or those with sensory overload problems), and Home Schools are all part of the Magnet Program. The Magnet Program curriculum is set by the school itself but you have to pass certain regulations - yearly standardized testing from grades 3-12 in Math, Science, Lang Arts, and History to be marked in the School System as a certain grade level and eventually earn a diploma from the State complete with official transcript. So, a lot of home schoolers and the Montessori don't do Grades (for GPA scores), so for these cases, the State uses the standardized test grade for your transcript to use for qualification into the Step Up program (you get State funding for your home school) and eventually the Bright Futures Scholarship (funded by the Florida Lotto) that gives you 120 credit-hours worth of free college at the current Community College rate. If you want to go to a non-Community State school, you just have to pay for the difference. You can't use Bright Futures out of State. Magnet Schools can also compete in State Sports and Competitions and join a neighborhood school sports/academic team or jROTC if they so desire. So, a few years back, this system received a big blow when Common Core became law. All the Magnets including the Home School has to teach Common Core to be in the Public School System! That led a lot of home schoolers and charters to get out of the public school system. It took us years to fight that beast off but we finally eliminated the stupid thing this year. That's one big reason Jeb! couldn't get a grip in Florida in the 2016 elections. Betsy DeVos had a big part in the design of the Florida School System. Florida was very happy to have her up there on the Federal Dep Ed. She helped us get rid of Common Core. Florida, of course, has terrible schools as well. There's a lot of them even such that we don't score well in State by State ratings. These schools get consistent F rating due to poor standardized test results, poor graduation rates, poor literacy rates, etc. A few years back, the State decided to pull funding out of these failed schools and move funding to charters to encourage the F school engaged teachers/students to open a charter. Parents went protesting and everything. It was a mess. I agreed with the State but many people thought it was making the students in those schools even more deprived or something. I still believe pulling money instead of pouring money into F schools is the better route. -
Having had the pleasure of meeting @LiterateParakeet in person, and having spoken with her in depth on a ton of issues for several years now, I can back her up 100% on this. She's incredibly fair and balanced. Willing to critique BOTH the left and the right.
