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As chorister, I don't know if I would want it brought up or not. It's a very common complaint around the Church, but it doesn't seem to change, so I don't know if bringing it up yet again will really change anything. Of course, I often feel like I am rushing the congregation and/or organist, so maybe I'm seeing this from the other side of the problem -- a fear of going too fast. Having also been the accompanist, sometimes I think the pace is set by the organist/pianist, because that is the position related to music that requires the most skill. If the organist/pianist cannot play any faster, complaining that it is too slow won't help until the accompanist improves their skill level. Unless and until the Church decides to make accompanist a paid position (like other churches) we maybe need to be patient and tolerant of the volunteer musicians we use for this. My feeling -- if you have a good enough relationship with the chorister/organist to gently say something, then say that you, personally, would like to sing some of the hymns at a faster tempo. Then, leave the job of leading/playing the music to those called to the job. If it changes, then good. If the tempo remains slower than you like, accept that they are doing the best they can with the skills and artistic vision they have, and be patient with them.
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Every hymn that is played in sacrament meeting is consistently at least 10 Bpm slow. Even the most up beat songs become funeral songs. We sang “their is sunshine in my soul today” at 55bpm today. It’s been this way since I moved into the ward. is this something worth bringing up? For me personally, it can be agonizing
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Like when they put this up on Election night?
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My opinions about things transgender haven't changed in a long time. Gender dysphoria and it's sidekicks like body dysmorphia, are horrible and real things. Folks who suffer from such things deserve to be understood, loved, respected, and helped. That said, for every actual sufferer of one of these mental illnesses, there are an ever-growing pile of people in our changing culture who figure transgender is the new black, gender is a preference, biological sex isn't relevant, if you think otherwise you should be outed and cancelled, and whatever else people are coming up since I checked the news. So, for the .1% of the population that actually struggle with this stuff for real, Luca is probably a relevant and interesting movie to watch. For the millions of folks* blown by the latest cultural wind of transgenderism, they'll probably slavishly lap it up like it was scripture or something. And Disney, along with pretty much all of the rest of the profit driven entertainment industry, as well as corporate America, government, and education, are all happily pursuing wokeness as hard as they can. *Just checked my phone - it's tens of millions of folks. With an extra million or two every few days. Someone oughta do something about that, before good is fully evil, evil fully good, the US loses it's status as righteous nation in God's eyes, and we all send ourselves and our children to hell.
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There is a problem in the US in recent years where an undue amount of influence has come from the media. The pattern has seemed to be...if you cannot get it voted on democratically, then force it through the courts to make people accept it, and then...after a few years...people do. This is one reason WHY the Courts have become as important as they have in recent decades. Judicial Activism is more of a Kingmaking service regarding law than who we vote into Congress. One of the GOOD things Trump did was being able to put the Justices he did on the Court. This makes it HARDER for the activists that have been pushing through things that they could not get through democratically into law for everyone else. I've mentioned it before, but a great book describing how we got into this situation is Supreme Power by Ted Stewart (And he is actually a conservative AND from Utah I believe). There are problems currently in the US, a great deal of it regarding morality. People think that the push for many items just popped up in the past decade or two, but the truth is that it had it's birth long before that with the Hippie movement and the loosening of morals among our young people (now the old people of my generation) in the 60s and 70s. Pre-marital relations and extra-marital relations being acceptable or even promoted have done far more evil in this nation than many recognize. In my opinion...
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The thing is, what you are saying isn't what I read or heard about India when I was closer TO India. The only places I've heard many of the things being stated in this thread seem to have their background to Far Right Extremists from the United States. Fauci only controls what is in the U.S. He doesn't control the research, science, or news in Canada, Europe, the Middle East, Africa...or...India. Most of them are saying the same thing regarding vaccines, masks, and social distancing. One of the FUNNIEST things I saw was a tape of a meeting in India where they were pushing the populace to wear masks and social distance. They had one guy stand up advocating strongly against them. The head of the meeting commanded the guy to sit down and said to the effect..."Don't state false information here...we aren't American's and we don't tolerate their nonsense here." Even the people in India or those in charge aren't spouting the stuff I've read attributed to India in this thread, and in fact, they pretty much have scorned anyone who thinks that way as a "Foolish American" from what I've heard, seen, and talked with people about. Which is why I find it interesting the things being attributed to India which go counter to what I've actually seen myself. However, to be clear... I did not go to India, but I was almost at it's borders at one point. I did spend a lot of time in other nations around the world this summer. Currently, I'm not anywhere near India (though I do meet Indians who travel and do research there and talk about their home just like we talk about ours) and obviously no where closer to India than anyone else right now...but they still have newspapers. India Times Some Articles REasons why the third wave will be less deadly Vaccination in India has always been free Why Delta remains Number 1 threat among all coronavirus variants Another news paper The Indian Express Vaccination drive for Students ahead of reopening colleges and a more recent article that isn't directly related to Covid but India addressing recent world problems (such as China, which they point the need to find the origins of the virus) and thus includes a bit on the virus Democracy to Diversity, Prime Minister addresses UN Where he states The recent news seems to indicate India STRONGLY pushing the vaccines and other items similar to what Fauci and other nations experts have been pushing. This sounds very contrary to what some are stating in this thread. The actual NEWS from India seems to be more focused on getting vaccination and safety by quarantines and other measures to halt the spread of the Coronavirus... Which when people attribute things to India which seem starkly in contrast to what I am reading FROM India...it would be interesting to see if they are quoting mainstream sources FROM India...or something from the far fringes of India that no respectable person in India would actually read...or if this is more just a U.S. thing which is coming from US conservatives (and not ALL conservatives to be clear, it's more the FAR right that I've seen this coming from) or someone in the US trying to attribute things to India which India itself might deny they are saying. You may be saying something that IS HAPPENING IN INDIA...but I can't find it. I know they pushed Ivermectin back in the Spring of this year in an effort to fight the virus. The results are NOT what people in the US are saying they were though, from what I saw it DID help but for unrelated reasons. Many of those in poverty also had parasites, and getting rid of those parasites actually helped those have stronger immune systems to fight Covid-19. However, overall, they found it wasn't as effective as many Conservatives in the US are saying it was, and right now in India, though it is still a tool they use, it is NOT the primary item they are using to fight the virus. They are using vaccines just like anywhere else from what I am reading currently. If Ivermectin was as effective as you are saying, I don't see why all the articles on Covid I am reading coming out of the mainstream press in India and treating it are trying to get people vaccinated instead of just treating it calmly as a disease you just give them Ivermectin for. What I'm reading coming out of India is not matching what some people are saying in this thread from what I've seen... BUT...I am open to be mistaken as well, but I would prefer to have actual sources to mainstream news or respectable organizations from India itself if we are discussing what the Indians are doing. PS: I would want to Emphasize MAINSTREAM MEDIA from India. Everyplace has their far fringes which are loony (for example, I can find American media which claims we never went to the moon and the Earth is flat for example, but that by no means represents what most Americans think or believe), I'm not looking for some small media no one reads in India...I"m looking for recent modern mainstream news stating what is being stated in this thread regarding what India is doing with Ivermectin as the main thing they are using to fight Covid as some have claimed, or to support other theories people are attributing to India. The thing about India is they publish news and we can actually READ the news coming out of India...unlike some other places which may have a much harder language barrier to overcome.
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@JohnsonJones-you are a Bulldogs fan, right? In my dating days I loved dating Georgia girls. You know why? they never expected a ring!!!!!! 😈
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Human footprints near ice age lake suggest surprisingly early arrival in the Americas
Traveler replied to clwnuke's topic in Current Events
We have known that creatures with close ties to modern humans have been walking the earth for many thousands of years prior to the Biblical date line of Adam and Eve. Much of which predates even the "Ice Age". How all this relates to revelation of the Fall of Man is - as near as I can determine - a lot of speculation. I tend to fall on the side of science and the concepts of evolution. I would make note that the Book of Mormon talks about a minimum of 3 primary migrations of highly civilized and educated peoples coming to the Americas and bringing with them written language and access to tools. We LDS are also very open to the idea that many of the current indigenous peoples of the Americas are related to remnants of these 3 primary migrations. As near as I can determine, prior to the Book of Mormon's first of the primary migrations; that the indigenous peoples in the Americas were mostly uncivilized - without a written language and exclusively hunter - gathers. I honestly do not know how any religious person with strong ties to the Bible can reconcile any indigenous peoples in the Americas surviving the flood of Noah. I have attempted to speculate on this subject but have no answer that I think even comes close to answering critical questions. However, within the time frame presented in the Book of Mormon there was an explosion of civilization in the Americas that can only be explained by a migration of civilized people as suggested by the Book of Mormon. What was or could have been present prior to these migrations can only be answered by science and perhaps some speculations - neither of which seems to be widely popular among LDS or any Christian sect. For myself - I have yet to find any scientific data to indicate that the migrations noted in the Book of Mormon are inaccurate. I find all the archeological science concerning the Americans to support (as a minimum) the migrations indicated in the Book of Mormon. I find this more than just interesting because of the fact that when the Book of Mormon was published there was no knowledge of any literate civilizations of large interconnected civilized cities of millions anywhere in the Americas. And to my knowledge I am not aware of even a single artifact that disproves (or even creates doubt concerning) the migrations documented in the Book of Mormon. The Traveler -
My source is a good and trusted friend (and his wife) from India that has contacts (including family) that live in India. I would reference something in your post ---- "so it seems he's getting his information from those who actually DO research and are EXPERTS in the field". We all should have learned something from our recent past and the tobacco industry that did many "scientific" research projects involving "EXPERTS in the field" on the effects of tobacco. Or more recently, internet companies (like Facebook) doing research into the use of their platform by "young" users. I would point out that Dr. Fauci (all by himself) controls most (if not all) government research grants on the subject. This means that if Dr. Fauci does not like the results or the intent - there will be no government grant or research monies. For this reason I would suggest studies and research done in other countries. I would suggest France, Italy, Israel and of course India. All have had their own struggles with COVID and the COVID variants. But all these countries are currently dealing with COVID better than the USA. But the information is difficult to come by - especially if you do not have a independent source directly connected to outlets within those countries. It is kind of like trying to get information about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by going exclusively through Evangelicals. They may have "actual" research and are "EXPERTS" in the field - but there is a problem - they have an agenda and are invested in certain results that favor their point of view. I also find it interesting that you labeled "conservative sensationalists". It is interesting to me that "conservative sensationalists" seem to be the only sources in the USA making reference to research done on other countries. As a retired scientist that has been involved in research (I have researched and published finding on SDLC communication protocols as well as Avionics 1553 multi drop protocols) - I am aware that even leading experts on a subject can become one sided in what they think should be the results. What worries me the most about Dr. Fauci - from the beginning of all connected to COVID - is that never once have I seen any indications from our Dr. Fauci indicating a willingness to address as creditable any counter opinions or studies. If other possibilities are not considered and resolved with research and data - it is not science. And I do not care how expert or creditable the world thinks such opinion is - I need to see more than opinion. The Traveler
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Amazing how in our efforts to "protect" children and young adults, we actually doubled their primary risk factor in the number one Covid comorbidity! https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037a3.htm Longitudinal Trends in Body Mass Index Before and During the COVID-19 Pandemic Among Persons Aged 2–19 Years — United States, 2018–2020 Summary What is already known about this topic? The COVID-19 pandemic led to school closures, disrupted routines, increased stress, and less opportunity for physical activity and proper nutrition, leading to weight gain among children and adolescents. What is added by this report? Among a cohort of 432,302 persons aged 2–19 years, the rate of body mass index (BMI) increase approximately doubled during the pandemic compared to a prepandemic period. Persons with prepandemic overweight or obesity and younger school-aged children experienced the largest increases. What are the implications for public health practice? Obesity prevention and management efforts during and following the COVID-19 pandemic could include health care provider screening for BMI, food security, and social determinants of health, and increased access to evidence-based pediatric weight management programs and food assistance resources.
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Human footprints near ice age lake suggest surprisingly early arrival in the Americas
JohnsonJones replied to clwnuke's topic in Current Events
I think it is foolish those who use that "DNA" evidence as evidence that the Nephites and Lamanites could not have been in the Americas. All that it indicates is that they have connections closer to Asia than to the Jews...BUT... What was the DNA makeup of the Lost Tribes? As the Nephite/Lamanite civilization was made up of those from the tribe of Manasseh (though the Mulekites are more questionable...Patriarchal blessings have indicated most, if not all, are descended from Mannaseh from what I have heard), we have only guesses as to how closely they are linked to the Tribe of Judah. We ASSUME that the link would be somewhat close (as in, at least linked to each other slightly prior to 2000-1500 BC), but we don't know as we do not have DNA that is definitive from that set of Lost tribes (as one would put it). What is odd are the guesses as to where the Lost tribes went, and one of the big things in the past was to assume they went Eastward, as they were captured and taken in that direction. It may be that there are connections there that we do not realize. Some of the evidence we THINK points to a connection to Asia pretty far back (further back than any connection would be between the Lost tribes and the Tribe of Judah), so we would assume that any connection with DNA between the various tribes of Israel would be closer, but much of that is ALSO based upon an incomplete DNA framework of Ancient Peoples. DNA scientific work is progressing and getting better every day, but there is still a LOT that we do NOT know. To base one's absolute facts off of things like that is to build a house on very shaky ground. It might stand, but at the same time one might find that the thing they thought was true yesterday, has changed as science is constantly evolving (for the better). -
And most people agree with you. The movie didn't feel right to me. I have impressionable kids at home, and there are so many other options of movies to watch that I feel better avoiding Luca. I disagree that it wasn't meant to be interpreted that way, as I already mentioned. Just my opinion. These days? Yes, there is a lot that we don't watch. But, if we are talking about all of the great Disney movies from over the years, then I don't agree with it being anywhere near 90% at all. They have shied away from LGBT for a long time, because they know their audience. And the audience is changing, of course, with younger generations raising kids. That's why they have been throwing in "nods," as you say. I'm fine with many of the nods. To me, Luca was different. And it was so plain to me that I don't understand why others don't agree with me, but I respect their opinions. I also didn't like the movie in general so, again, it's easy to avoid. You were the one who brought it up haha so I feel a bit baited. Did I miss some sarcasm in your question?
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Source from India (not some conservative site from the US) please? Preferably within the past 2-3 months, but I suppose old information will work as well (though going off old information many items that would seem to have been pushed by the US are not anymore). I could give you first hand primary information from someone who has actually VISITED areas in that vicinity, or at least closer to it than the US or Europe in the past few months, but as it is from my mouth and not an actual researcher on COVID-19, I'm not sure you would find that valid, nor should you. If not Doctor Fauci (who seems to actually get his information from several research papers that are released on the topic, and science is fluctuating at times though holding steady on certain items, so it seems he's getting his information from those who actually DO research and are EXPERTS in the field as opposed to conservative sensationalists), which PANEL of COUNCIL of EXPERTS with actual DEGREES and WHO WORK IN RESEARCH would you suggest?
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That makes sense. I can't recall when they changed up the Stakes, but I recall a time when Georgia had around 3 stakes total (if memory serves right). It has grown tremendously since that time.
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Agreed. I've got a lot of math under my belt but I wouldn't even think of attempting that type of conversion with medicine/chemicals.
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It is the same drug, so yes, it is safe for human consumption...if the proper amount is taken. All it takes is a simple math conversion, yet folks don't even bother to think that an animal dose may be different than a human one. Cut up the large tablet into smaller pieces. Don't squirt an entire syringe into your mouth...take it in smaller amounts. No one is forcing them take the entire thing all at once. Taking a large dose meant for a horse = stupid.
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They are being forced to by their doctors and pharmacists refusing to prescribe the human grade. I have a legal prescription but I had to get a pharmacy other than my normal one. I've taken Ivermectin, and a person would be hard pressed to ever know they took it. It's so safe for human consumption that most countries offer it OTC. We have to remember that when Covid hit our shores that there were no treatment protocols for doctors to follow. Zero. Nada. Front line critical care doctors treating early Covid patients had no guidance whatsoever to follow because it was new and unknown. There were no "studies" to draw upon. Any guidance from the CDC and FDA has been ad hoc at best. They had no data to support their previous or current recommendations due to the nature of how long it takes to do double-blind studies. Because most people recover easily, MOST doctors treating Covid patients told them to go home and if their breathing got bad then head to the hospital emergency room. In essence, they were doing NOTHING. Nada. Zero. Nanimo nai. However, some critical care doctors who were on the front lines treating patients (not bureaucrats who sit on their brains all day and spout off as Covid experts) wanted to do more than "wait" for their patients to possibly get worse. They experimented with HCQ, Ivermectin, zinc, vitamin D, melatonin, quercetin, and other protocols to try and prevent the cytokine storms from happening at all. They found that some of those worked marvelously well and moved quickly to inform other doctors. Some were invited to Washington DC to testify about their successes. And what did they get for their efforts? They were branded as heretics. Hence many of us have to wonder what the motivations have really been during this pandemic for FDA and CDC officials. They brazenly discredit the cheap and successful protocols developed by front line critical care doctors treating Covid patients, but they give the go-ahead for expensive experimental treatments based on the slightest wiff of evidence. Hospitals were incentivized with tons of $$$ to use these and none of them helped. (My wife works in medical billing and directly sees the bonuses paid to hospitals if they will classify patients as Covid positive.) Something didn't add up, and it still doesn't. But as you point out, research and time will eventually win the day - at least it used to. I guess we will see, but if it turns out that early intervention with these protocols is eventually determined to absolutely be effective, I doubt all the experts who spoke out against them will take responsibility and resign for their part in causing thousands of unnecessary Covid deaths.
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I'm good with that. If you stuff a running back, you flex like your on Muscle Beach, and then you reach down and help the running back up. I think that still qualifies as good sportsmanship.
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Some folks are just plain stupid. They are taking an entire syringe of the stuff meant for a 1,200 pound horse...a dose 6-8 times higher than the upper limit should be. Something that is odd about all of this is that when new treatments for any type of condition arise, there are studies done to judge the efficacy of said treatments. This happens all the time with new medications. They are found to have beneficial side effects, studies are done, and then new indications for prescribing those medications are recommended. Sometimes drugs that are meant to originally treat one condition are found to more effectively treat another. Does Ivermectin work against Covid-19...the truth is that nobody really knows for sure. Why doesn't anyone really know...because large and legitimate studies are not being done on it. Anytime anyone in the medical profession beings it up they are labeled as a crazy person. Given the attention it has received, one would think that several unbiased studies would have already been done, but thorough studies are not being done on it because of money and politics. And, as petty as it may sound, one root of this is due to the left's hatred of President Trump. Because he brought it up once upon a time, it has to be roundly and soundly defeated for all time without the necessity of any evidence to support that conclusion. Anything he has ever been for has to be untrue by default. Does Ivermectin work...maybe. It might be a great tool in fighting the virus. Or, it might be a waste of time. But, until the medical community moves the bulk of it's research away from the university setting, as well as away from politics, we will begin to see greater forms of lackluster healthcare in the future.
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I wonder how much Dr. Fauci is in support of what is being said? The Traveler
