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  1. prisonchaplain

    For Pam: Hobby Lobby

    Hobby Lobby, IKEA, Home Depot ... any massive shopping venue really ... oh the suffering of the male species. Perhaps this is why God allowed internet shopping to arise?
  2. prisonchaplain

    What LGBTQ+ hath wrot

    This seems as good a place as any to throw out my semi-related theory on just what happened in the U.S. How is it that 2/3rds opposition to gay marriage became 2/3rds support (thus, according to OP, leading to things like supervisors seducing young staff into joining a throuple)? My sense is that those who flipped from opposed to supportive are conservative in the law & order & stability vein. So, once SCOTUS said that gay marriage was a basic human right, allegedly assured in the U.S. Constitution, then a good number of opponents shifted to the new social consensus. If the highest court says this is the way it is then this is the way it is. These are the same ones that say, "Just bake the cake." They are also the ones who opposed Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, because he violated the law (Jim Crow laws banning People of Color from sitting in White-designated areas). This dilemma will not be resolved by conservatism or liberalism. What we need is, "Thus sayeth the LORD..."
  3. I'm willing to admit that American culture is inferior to that of the country's that hosted my missionary experience--at least on the issue of political commentary. For some reason I continue to fail to understand, we look to actors and athletes for economic and political policy wisdom. In Korea they tend to interview...err...cough...professors of major universities. Granted, the experts aren't always right. However, I suspect that they tend to be more right than actors and athletes. Just sayin' . . .
  4. prisonchaplain

    Worship in a different church church is on the traditional end of the the pastor would be dressed that way. ๐Ÿ˜
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    Worship in a different church

    I'm probably stating the obvious, but @Fether's video was probably from a United Pentecostal Church service or conference (they are Pentecostal and dress conservative)...and the music was dubbed in ... We all knew this, right? ๐Ÿคจ
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    Worship in a different church

    Music in the church is a matter of constant conversation. Elders nearly always believe the music of the young is shallow, flippant, irreverent and downright unworthy. Then it becomes the standard fare, and a new generation comes up to find that what had been cutting-edge, energizing, and deeply moving has become stale and only barely tolerable. My church offers 'blended worship,' and when the older hymns and choruses are sung, what a joy to see our elders light up. Likewise, when a new song that resonates well is rendered, I imagine the elders are pleased to see our youth really enter in to the worship. @Traveler does well to call for a discerning. To me the question is simple. Does the music glorify God and point us toward Him, or does it merely offer fun and seem overly centered on the artists?
  7. prisonchaplain

    Worship in a different church

    Welcome to the Worship Wars. Most large churches decided a couple of decades ago that there was a crisis amongst the young, and that all efforts must be made to retain. Let the elders grit their teeth. They are mature, and can deal. We must keep the youngins! Still, as a pastor, before I would say the music interrupted the Spirit--or the worship--I would want to see what most in the congregation are doing. Are the 'rockin' to the tunes? Are they being entertained? Or...are they worshipping. It is sometimes amazing to hear music I consider a bit much, but then to see most--yes, especially the young--lifting hands to the heavens, mouthing the words, with apparent adoration of the LORD as their countenances. Then I look to the words, and often they are actually sound and solid and deep. Sometimes it is hard to discern...especially when there seem to be fingernails rubbing against chalkboards.
  8. prisonchaplain

    Would you list a mission on a resume?

    I would list it as volunteer experience and, depending on the job sought, tailor the description of the religious nature of the work to fit the employer. In other words, without deceit, emphasize the skills learned and developed. Some are "soft skills," but in many entry level positions, those are important. Even in my later years, if I were to seek secular employment with an agency that valued diversity and equity, I would mention my overseas experience, and how I learned the difficulties of being "other," the struggle of learning a new language, and the importance of listening more and speaking less. Bottom line--in most cases, yes, absolutely mention it...but sell it as useful for the job and company.
  9. prisonchaplain

    Worship in a different church

    If it's any consolation, that happened to me once. My aunt had a positive conversion to Christianity, and attended an independent Baptist (read: much more conservative than Southern Baptists) church less than a block from mine. So, I went one Sunday and the minister spoke quite a bit about the faults of Pentecostals. Afterwards I went up to shake his hand and thank him for discipling my aunt, and he openly told me that the message was directed at me, because he knew I was coming. So, yeah. . .
  10. prisonchaplain

    Worship in a different church

    BUT it was cool, right? I mean, like, the band really rocked it and you could feel an awesome vibe. Made some cool friends...and the coffee was off the charts, dude! . . .
  11. prisonchaplain

    Worship in a different church

    In my chapel services, which range from about 8-15 in attendance, we sing to CD's, using licensed lyrics. The songs put out by WOW (a mixture of popular contemporary Christian songs) and artists like Lauren Daigle have some pretty solid lyrics. It may help that we are looking at the words and singing along, since most are conditioned to hear contemporary music and assume the words are vapid.
  12. prisonchaplain

    Worship in a different church

    Just a couple of quick responses... coffee and coffee fumes will be staples at most Evangelical and Baptist churches. The wealthier ones have baristas, and mine, of course has the old 50-cup Folgers pot going. "Rock concert" music is very common place. The lyrics are amazingly sound, in most cases. Smaller churches will have more traditional music, or, like mine, a mixture of a couple hymns or choruses and three or four more contemporary songs. I did have a co-worker, who was not particularly religious, tell me that the large church experience seemed more like a show, and was professional, yet off-putting. I suspect most LDS would be far more comfortable in churches that were maybe 100-800 people or so, vs. the larger ones. On the other hand, the Yoido Full Gospel Church (Seoul, Korea) has 840,000 members, yet the primary worship service happens in homes, includes much prayer, and is made up of 12-20 people. These "home cells" feed the main church, which is pretty awesome in my always humble opinion.
  13. prisonchaplain

    Worship in a different church

    A little over a year ago I had the opportunity to join a few 10-thousands of LDS members in worship. The church rented Safeco Field (or it may have been Centurylink), and I got an invite by one of our officers to join him and his family. President Nelson spoke, as did a few other leaders. The music was classic hymns, and the messages were delivered in a conversational style, with messaging that could easily have been accepted in most Evangelical congregations. Participants seemed so pleased to hear from church leaders live. Perhaps the most interesting aspect was that, despite the venue and presence of dignitaries, the service felt like what I suppose happens most Sundays in wards. The lack of need for special effects etc. was impressive. People went to hear leaders speak and to have church--not to be entertained or "wow-d." So... have you ever been to a non-LDS service, and what were your impressions?
  14. prisonchaplain

    Baptist Preacher Praises Book of Mormon

    Dr. Ridenhour may be able to shed light on this himself. However, he could very well be an ordained Southern Baptist minister--or perhaps an independent Baptist. In Baptist polity, if a congregation ordains him then he's ordained. It doesn't matter what other Baptists think, so long as one congregation takes that action. So, his claim may be true. As for his baptism--I had not read of that. Was this recent? I ask because the articles I read about him (which were likely nearly 10 years old) suggested that he was more active among CoC groups than LDS ones, and that his favor towards the BoM was based on both his belief that the Holy Spirit had confirmed it and upon his discovery of so many "Baptist" doctrines being affirmed in it.
  15. prisonchaplain

    Baptist Preacher Praises Book of Mormon

    Enough posters here have a general grasp of Evangelical thought to know that some of my comparisons are "in the ballpark," but may miss important nuances. For example, I see strong similarities between my Arminian belief in free will and the LDS teaching of agency. However, a full explanation of each would reveal some significant differences. Also, there is always the whole-package issue--that so many LDS beliefs work in relation to other LDS beliefs. To understand with any kind of completeness requires acceptance of the whole package--the Latter-day revelations, the Restoration, the Celestial Kingdom and exaltation, pre-mortal existence, etc. So, when I, as an Evangelical that does not share all those beliefs say, "It's so awesome that LDS believe, and their scriptures teach, the truth of free will," the response might be, "Yeah ... uh ... but, wait, there's so much more."