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  1. prisonchaplain

    Oregon Woman sues Church for reporting abuse

    I could be wrong, but my understanding is that only the Roman Catholic Church has the rite of Confession, which does involve a sacred veil of secrecy and privacy. Protestant clergy would generally report such matters to authorities. On the other hand, if we could tell a conversation was going in this direction we might remind the counselee that incidents of criminal behavior--especially involving minors--must be reported.
  2. We accept people where they are today--of course, always hoping for a greater tomorrow. Today, I am not LDS. I might become LDS in the future, or, perhaps in the after life if mortality's gospel presentation was not sufficient. However, there is a strong possibility that I will end up in the Terrestial Kingdom. @Scott, @Jane_Doe and many others here likely strive for the Celestial Kingdom. Part of what would lead us to different heavenly kingdoms is our understanding of our mutual savior. If the Church is right, my understanding is deficient. It may not be the sole factor keeping me from the Celestial Kingdom, but it is a factor. It may be that I clung stubbornly and unrighteously to my traditional beliefs out of pride. (Please understand I am just trying to paint a scenario...). If I am even partially understanding this, then Jesus might be savior to all of us, but there is not enough mutuality among us that we will end up in the same realm. Does this make sense? Or, is it that eternal hope in future and post-mortal acceptance of the gospel that allows for a very broad accepting approach?
  3. The others I'm all-in on. However, this statement concerns me. To offer an example of why consider that Muslims believe that Jesus is a prophet of God (Peace Be Upon Him). They do not believe Him to be the Son of God, or God. In LDS teaching on the Plan of Salvation, a sincere Muslim would likely end up in the Terrestial Kingdom--a heavenly realm. His reward would be due to Christ's saving work. Jesus is his savior, whether he knows it or not. (All of this assumes he does not fully embrace the teachings he receives in the life to come). So...would you acknowledge with a Muslim 'our mutual Savior Jesus Christ?'
  4. Chocolate covered coffee beans are a real thing, and I imagine there are all kinds of matcha tea (green) flavored candies and pastries.
  5. The whole dilemma over how God can be one and three at the same time was not a concern for first-century Christians--certainly not for Jesus. He did address the issue of his day: Was Messiah to be a human general-king or a suffering Savior, God's Son incarnate? Jewish leadership stridently opposed this most esoteric claim--this most intricate proposition--that God might have a Son who would come to earth in human flesh. This was also a discussion about God's nature. So, sure, it can be argued that Jesus did not directly list the Trinity as a belief required for inclusion in his kingdom. He did establish the precedent that God's nature was on the table as a crucial topic of discussion.
  6. Most 'mainstream' Christians do indeed have a good impression of LDS. You don't drink, smoke, gamble or chew...not even coffee or tea! You don't cuss, tend to present as sharp, intelligent and hardworking. Further, the alleged ulterior motive is one all Christians share. We DO want to see souls converted--certainly to Jesus. Joining my specific church would be icing on the cake. Doctrines and beliefs are another matter. 'Annoying' just doesn't describe it (except for the coffee/tea ban--that is annoying ). It used to be (in Joseph Smith's day, for example) that believers in predestination (Reformed churches, Presbyterians, Calvinists, etc.) questioned the salvation of us free-will folk (Methodists, Wesleyan, etc.). After all, we did not seem to properly understand God's sovereignty and power. Adventists were also suspect as late as the 1960s, as many argued that they did not teach salvation by faith (insisting on observance of Old Testament laws related to the Sabbath). Boundary-marking/keeping has decreased rapidly, but LDS teachings about the nature of God/humanity and salvation are all very difficult for Protestants and Catholics.
  7. prisonchaplain

    Female v. Male College Ratios

    My wife has a PhT from my school: Putting hubby Through
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    Female v. Male College Ratios

    Oops... Bridal.
  9. prisonchaplain

    Female v. Male College Ratios

    My denomination is quite young, having been founded in 1914. Initially education was discouraged. Jesus was coming back soon and there was precious little time to be acquiring 'man's wisdom.' In the early years our churches were short of pastors, so quite a few Bible institutes were started. Eventually they transformed into Bible colleges. Due to this heritage, our church maintains about a half dozen universities--most quite small at roughly 2,000 on-campus students. They are named for their regions: Southeast, North Central, Northwest, etc. So, in those early years, the common joke was that Mary had gone off to Northwest Bridle Bridal College. The schools are universities now, and many women go to study nursing, education, etc. Also, we do have ordained females, though they represent less than 10% of our ministers. Still...60-65% female is not uncommon at our schools.
  10. prisonchaplain

    Female v. Male College Ratios

    I did some digging and the top reasons given are: Women simply have more opportunities now, women are more adaptable and resilient, men find it easier to get decent-paying jobs after high school, men DO indeed gravitate more to trade schools. As for religious schools, women tend to be more devout, and so might be more interested in an overtly religious educational community. I'm wondering if BYU is different, in part, because men are perceived as having greater leadership responsibilities. If so, this might be true in Christian traditions that still embrace male leadership (i.e. denominations that do not allow female clergy).
  11. prisonchaplain

    Female v. Male College Ratios

    @Maureen, well sure. Why might that be? I suspect that public universities are seeing the same trend.
  12. prisonchaplain

    Female v. Male College Ratios

    My first child is at Grand Canyon University, which is a large, Evangelical school (over 20,000 this year, but growing rapidly). It's over 60% female, and the honors college is easily 2:1 female. My second child is now applying to colleges, and is seeing that most of the schools she is interested in (smaller, Christian) are 60%+ female. I just checked BYU's stats and it is almost even at 52% male to 48% female. Kudos...but what gives?
  13. prisonchaplain

    Temples and Adult Converts

    There's a Korean saying that goes back a generation: Easy to marry, easy to divorce. Hard to marry, hard to divorce. This is one area where I do have a bit of holy envy.
  14. prisonchaplain

    Temples and Adult Converts

    Marriage is done in temple as is the related sealing. Given the sacredness, is it harder for young couples to gain approval from parents? Also, do bishops need to grant approval?
  15. prisonchaplain

    Not believing in the traditional Christ

    Yes, in that if we can become what God is then God is no longer exclusively God. Alternatively, if God is also continuing to become more (thus we will never 'catch up'), then He is not all-powerful-knowing-presence now. LDS might argue that of exaltation is not possible then God is not who they understand Him to be either.