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    Was it a "protection" or simply an outward sign of the curse, and what brought about the curse? Were there individuals who would seek out retribution for Abel's death? Possibly, these are the individuals Cain was saying would kill him (vengeance for their brother's death). A mark and a curse that allowed Abel's brethren to recognize that the punishment God already affixed is more than what they could do -- God already dealt the blow (so to speak) -- can you deal a better punishment than God? Cain is Perdition, so there is no hope for him (repentance) in this life nor the after life. He, Cain, will rule over Satan in outer darkness.
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    Kwaku at Payson Bible Church debate

    I remember Thunderfoot's videos all to well, and Peter, and of course Dawkins whose best pal appeared to be Hitchens.
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    Kwaku at Payson Bible Church debate

    Sounds like you and I enjoyed (maybe not the best word) a similar period of debate on YouTube.
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    Kwaku at Payson Bible Church debate

    The emphasized portion isn't intellectual courtesy. If a person is concerned with winning or losing, fair or unfair, then it isn't intellectual courtesy, and would not have been filled with intellectual courtesy to begin with. We have had this discussion before. I have seen this multiple times. Our experiences are different.
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    Kwaku at Payson Bible Church debate

    I hope this debate is filled with intellectual courtesy. What's the old saying, goes something like, “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” I don't mind these types of debates, as long as they can maintain intellectual courtesy.
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    Supporting spouses in bishopric

    With no children this can be really easy to support, but may be lonely at times. Simply allow him to be where and when he needs to be somewhere, no matter how much you miss him.
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    Kanye West: The Lord Moves in Mysterious Ways

    The beginning is an interesting use of Carmina Burana's melody, but I admit I have a hard time putting Kanye and Spirit together.
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    Adam and Eve's purpose

    This is intelligence, light and truth. It is impossible to know God without the Comforter.
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    "Lord" blesses "his" Children?

    Yes, this makes total sense. My understanding of the interchange, which did cause some confusion for me, of Lord being used for our Savior or Heavenly Father began with debates with Jehovah Witnesses. The common question they would ask was, "What is God's name"? I then would try to show scripture where the Lord was referring to the "Son" because of the terms "I have begotten you." The Son is by whom we are spiritually begotten. At that point I would get caught up on trying to figure out then who was speaking. I would actually almost argue that all scripture, outside of the garden of Eden, is the Son speaking with divine investiture (except for when the Father introduces the Son). As we come to the Father through the Son. As pertaining to the talks provided, now I understand more of what you are saying, I honestly would say -- both. In this light, the Lord (Father) works through the Lord (Son). All things were created by the Lord (Father) through/by the Lord (Son). So when we say the Lord blesses us with Patriarchal Blessings we can say the blessing is from both Father through the Son. Unless the statement clarifies I always assume both, unless the doctrine is clear one way or the other (i.e. doctrine pertaining to pre-mortal events which are easier to see which is which). I find myself making similar statements when referring to our Savior and the Father. I will say, in general, the Lord blesses us with (insert blank). In this case, I now am referring to both. I would say the doctrine of them being "One" comes to my mind. All things are through and by the Lord (Son), but we know without the Lord (Father) their is no Son. What I find more difficult in this, is that our Savior our Lord is a trinity, and that we actually believe in a trinity (not the same as modern sects that believe in Christ). We know in Christ we have the Father, we also have the Son, and we also have the Spirit -- a trinity (Mosiah 15:1-7) as @Fether already pointed out this scripture. So when we say the Father blesses us, well, we can also be referring to our Savior who spiritually begat us. So, I simply now, assume we are referring to both, unless there is clarification or doctrine (scriptural events) that make it obvious who the Lord is.
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    "Lord" blesses "his" Children?

    There are obvious verses of scripture where Lord is referring to God the Father. There are other verses of scripture where Christ is speaking with divine investiture. These verses I am honestly not sure how you can tell if it is the Father (our Heavenly Father) speaking, or if it is the Son (only begotten) speaking. IMHO, I don't think it is necessary to distinguish but to simply teach the principle of divine investiture where a person can speak on behalf (or as if they are) another person. I think Moses 1:6 is a good example. We simply need to understand what is being discussed not who is speaking. (something you already know) When Christ is speaking as our Father (spiritually begotten) there are certain phrases that may highlight who is speaking. Psalm 2:7 might be a good example of this.
  11. Wonderful. Thanks for sharing. I have felt as you have felt.
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    Can you please help me respond??

    The experiences I gained from my mission have taught me to try to handle this with questions. I agree with you, that this individual is most likely holds onto the common core belief you are mentioning. If you try to tell these them how they must believe they are never converted. This means they have to be put in a situation where the Spirit can teach them. The only way to do that, is by asking them questions. At some point, if the right question is asked, through a proper explanation (not telling them how they must interpret the verse) they will come to a state of "opposition." At that moment, they will have some spiritual witness (Amulek, and how he recognized afterwards that the Lord was calling out, but he wasn't listening), by which they will have to choose to follow the witness, or continue to walk the same path. My questions were more so to lead to that. What did he say when you asked...? In light of his next response, what did he say when you asked...?
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    Can you please help me respond??

    What does he say when you ask him what other commandments are optional? And why? Or simply, are commandments optional?
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    Can you please help me respond??

    What did he say when you asked him about the command to baptize?
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    When does compassion become enabling to sin?

    I personally think the sentiment is simple, the application though, eh, not so much. Compassion becomes enabling when our compassion prevents/inhibits the necessary growth to become like our Heavenly Father through Christ.