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  1. mikbone

    Recession

    We finally got our 27.2 kWp solar array (80 panels) and Propane Kohler 30 kW generator installed. Took almost 2 years. Permits, unexpected hazards, roof repairs, excuses, rescheduling, supply chain issues. Was a bit spendy. But now I have a surplus of energy production and run the A/C whenever I want - at any temperature. Next car I get will likely be electric. PG&E (pacific gas & electric) is crazy expensive. Summer monthly electric bills over 1K are no joke. And they will turn off the power with a threat of high winds (forest fire threat / prior lawsuits) for days at a time. We had to buy a second propane tank 500 gallons dedicated for the generator. When we bought the house 2 years ago I got a used propane tank for $500. The one I bought last month cost 4K. Unbelievable… The break-even point is likely 15 years or so. But I love to watch the power production and review PG&E bills with a credit instead of 4 figure payment request. Previously I would get a warning that I was using too much energy for a single family on the 10th of the month and I would get charged on the 4th tier for energy usage. Ridiculous.
    3 points
  2. mirkwood

    Blitzkrieg

    While I think Trump was a good President, I hope he does not run again, or loses to a quality opponent in a primary. I do not think a second term with him at the helm would be good for the country. We are wayyyyy to polarized at this point for him to be President again.
    3 points
  3. A post surgery thought. After removing the affected portion of my gut, they examined it under a microscope and found residual cancer cells invisible to the MRI. So, in hindsight, the choice to proceed with surgery was the right one. I've gotten fairly sensitized to the observation that God doesn't always intervene (for the better) in everyone's lives, so I'm a little uncomfortable enthusiastically attributing my good fortune to God. At the same time, I recall the point of making the decision to proceed when the thought came seemingly unbidden that, after everything we had done and suffered so far to have the best chance of full cure, it would seem unwise to take on additional risk after trying so hard to minimize the risk. In hindsight, that thought seems almost prophetic. My own story isn't complete, so it's too soon to make final declarations. And I'm still very much aware that not everyone experiences these little miracles, and I have no explanation for why. But I am grateful today for a very small thing that makes me feel more confident in my future.
    3 points
  4. mikbone

    Recession

    Personally excited to hear the prophet’s council for the next 6 months this weekend.
    2 points
  5. Since I've had a few people ask me about meals that can be made without electricity - Check the shelf-stable meats aisle of your local grocery store. There are a number of pouched meal options available nowadays, such as seasoned tuna and seasoned chicken. You can simply pop open the pouch, spread it on a sandwich, and you have protein on the go. https://www.heb.com/product-detail/starkist-chicken-creations-classic-bbq-pouch-2-6-oz/3531028 For example, you have this name-brand product, which is chicken in barbecue sauce. https://www.heb.com/product-detail/starkist-tuna-creations-honey-bbq-tuna-pouch-2-6-oz/1964757 Or there's this name-brand tuna in barbecue sauce, which I actually had for lunch earlier in order to try it out. It's not the best thing around, but it's relatively inexpensive shelf-stable protein that actually tastes pretty decent. edit - https://www.heb.com/product-detail/isadora-original-refried-beans-15-2-oz/1533976 Pouched refried beans are also a thing, so you have a vegetarian protein source as well. Again, just pop open the pouch (you're supposed to boil-in-pouch, but it's refried beans...) and spread it on bread.
    2 points
  6. NoMiddleName

    Born Again

    I had a somewhat scattered but entertaining discussion with a born again gentleman. I didn't catch his whole backstory as he was jibbering and jabbering too much. After I had gone on to explain that my over all goal was to move to the states and be with my people, possibly starting my life as a saint properly and settling down, he rather condescendingly informed me that I would be '' planting a generation of hellbound seeds ''. The discussion ( although random ) was civil enough but I was mildly amused at him thinking he could shake my testimony. He had just been dispensing all manner of flyers and pamphlets about this and that. I haven't had a good talk with someone from a random encounter since the Jehovas about four years ago. Anybody else have any tips or stories regarding such people. Normally I'd keep walking but today I had some time to kill and the summer hasn't left us altogether so it was pleasant enough for a stop and talk.
    2 points
  7. Carborendum

    Fetal Hearbeat

    With the Dobbs decision has come many state abortion laws with varying standards. One common standard is the fetal heartbeat. As soon as the heartbeat is detected, then abortion either becomes illegal or subject to severe restrictions. <Disclaimer> My personal position does not support legislating abortion bans at 6 weeks. My complaint with the latest news is the run-around pro-abortionists are attempting by changing definitions to fit their narrative. In response to the fetal heartbeat laws, the pro-abortionists are now altering their definition of heartbeat. First Stacy Abrams made a poor attempt at this What she said, as phrased is simply incorrect and illogical. But she was referring to a condition that more informed individuals decided to word correctly. Planned Parenthood has changed the wording on their website. At least livescience had the integrity to clearly state that their article had been altered since the Dobbs decision. https://www.livescience.com/65501-fetal-heartbeat-at-6-weeks-explained.html And this website still shows the "accepted science" just a few weeks ago. The shift in the narrative all started several weeks ago when various health sites brought up the issue. Gee, where have I heard the "cluster of cells" argument before? If everything is just a cluster of cells, nothing is just a cluster of cells. They're basically taking the partial birth abortion argument and downgrading it to the fetal heartbeat condition. I guess, this is a sign of a win for pro-lifers. They're so desperate that they're running mental gymnastics to try to push their agenda. We'll see how this holds up in court. But one thing that the Dobbs decision did was make this a state matter. So, the Supreme Court will push any attempt at a national standard back to the states. Planned Parenthood will have to take this to court separately in each state that has such a ban. And each state will have their own modifications to the fetal heartbeat laws because of such decisions.
    2 points
  8. NeuroTypical

    Fetal Hearbeat

    First priority: I should be able to clip my fingernails and have moles and warts and tumors and parasites removed. Bodily autonomy is a core foundation of liberty and freedom. Also First priority: Human beings, especially the weak and defenseless ones, must be protected by society and law. Humans get equal protection under the law - also a core foundation of liberty and freedom. So when does the reproductive cycle create a human, deserving of equal protection under the law? Pretty much nobody advocates extending the status of personhood to a sperm, or an egg. Few believe a fertilized egg or multicelled blastocyst is a human. As the thing grows and matures, more and more people cross the "okay it's a person now" line. Every stage crossed, brings more and more into the "it's a person" camp: A beating heart, the ability to feel pain, brain activity, indications of having a sleep pattern, reactions that indicate familiarity to certain sounds. By the time of viability (the ability to survive outside the womb), pretty much everyone has joined the camp. You can find some, here and there, who believe a woman should have a right to abort her born and independently living child, but probably in similar numbers as those who believe spilling seed is mass murder. There should be room for exceptions, like the 14 year old who escapes from her evil father, in the 3rd trimester carrying his child, a child that will not survive for long and will likely kill the mother during birth. God drops hints that can be interpreted in various ways. He doesn't settle the matter for us. The church does what it always does in the lack of clear and unambiguous revelation - it's best. In such a situation, it makes sense to let the states (or the people), make up their own minds. Folks of similar views can go live amongst others of similar stripes, if it's that important to them. So let Cali and Colorado be on the late end of things, and let Georgia and Mississippi be on the early end of things, and everyone else can argue about weeks, and yell in all caps, and crowbar as much emotion or reason into their arguments as they wish. And they can vote in their states, and the strongest voices will win in that state. And folks can argue about jumping states for abortions. That's better than the federal government telling everyone what to do.
    2 points
  9. Just_A_Guy

    Fetal Hearbeat

    I have some times mused on how entertaining it would be, as a criminal defense lawyer, to defend a murder suspect using all of the rationalizations and excuses and half-truths and hair-splitting arguments that the elective abortionists use.
    2 points
  10. Far too many people are unaware of what's out there already, and so they either don't prepare for what's coming or go for a few generic items that people commonly envision. For example, Gossner Farms (which is headquartered in Utah) has been making shelf-stable milk products since the 1980s, but people *still* react in shock when I tell them about it - https://www.dollartree.com/drinks/milk Yes, Dollar Tree sells Gossner Farms milk products *by the quart* as well as a number of nut-based milk alternatives. What else does Dollar Tree have? https://www.dollartree.com/post-cocoa-pebbles-cereal-3oz-packs/335912 3 - ounce bags of cereal that you can re-seal. I've actually had to take the Gossner Farms milk, pour it in one of these pouches, and eat it that way. So we've got breakfast (cereal + milk), lunch (barbecue chicken sandwich), dinner (barbecue tuna sandwich), and a vegetable blitz (the refried beans) as a possible fourth meal to keep calories going. That's on top of whatever vitamins and supplements a person could have.
    1 point
  11. NeuroTypical

    Recession

    Holy crap! Here's my power/gas averages for the last few years, for a single family in a home here in Colorado. (It's an annual average of the monthly bills.) The electric bump over the last year is due to having another structure to heat. The gas increases were not due to anything we did. I'd also get periodic notices that my home used more energy than the average, but never any threats. Just an offer to do a free energy audit to see where the air leaks are, and suggest some fixes.
    1 point
  12. Carborendum

    Recession

    The only time onsite solar or wind is a good option for a single family residence is if you KNOW you're going to be there for around 15 to 20 years. Otherwise, it is wasted money. If you're just looking for energy security, get a diesel generator. Get several 5-gal jugs of diesel, some sta-bil (for diesel), and store it.
    1 point
  13. Just_A_Guy

    Blitzkrieg

    Erm . . . I believe we used it too, at least in the Pacific. I seem to recall that the Rangers who liberated the Cabanatuan prison camp were given meth pills—or amphetamines, at any rate—to help them make the march there and back.
    1 point
  14. Yep, powerful and sobering. A worthy way to spent 10 minutes. Did Peterson coin the term "anti-truth"? I first heard it from him. Very interesting term - sort of like the intellectual secular version of anti-Christ.
    1 point
  15. Vort

    Born Again

    I first encountered such people as a new missionary in Philadelphia, waiting for my visa to Italy. This would have been about March of 1983. A middle-aged man stopped me on the street and kindly informed me that I was going to hell if I didn't leave the Mormon cult. He told me the unspeakably awful things people do in the temple. When I told him I had been to the temple and that no such things happened, he responded that I just hadn't been to the right place in the temple, where I would have seen such things. Although I admit I found it mildly entertaining, I have mostly refused to engage such antiMormons since that time. I don't like laughing at or mocking people for their ignorance, and I like even less having to listen to slander about things I consider sacred without responding. And I do not care to respond to open, unrepentant, hateful ignorance. I realize this is a fault in my personality, but there it is. I try hard not to be the kind of prideful jerk who brags about not suffering fools gladly, but some things are frankly more insufferable than others. For me, antiMormonism and antiChristianity is at or at least near the top of the insufferability curve.
    1 point
  16. Carborendum

    Book of Mormon Language

    Here's another example. See the last phrase from the 3 Ne quote above: Hebrew example: In English, the "again" would be placed at the end, as is found in the KJV. But in 3 Ne? No. The word "again" is an adverb. As such, it needs to be placed next to the verb in Hebrew. It is very awkward in English. But in Hebrew, it makes perfect sense. The "thither" is placed last in Hebrew. But it is awkward in English. So, we place it closer to the verb, but after the object. I'm beginning to think this is a testimony to the validity of the BoM. The objection I have is: Why there are so many passages that actually seem to follow more traditional English when it seems to violate Hebrew word order? I came upon an answer: After the loss of the 116 pages, Joseph was told to start translating from Mosiah onward. Then after Moroni was translated, he was informed about the small plates, and was instructed to go back to work on the small plates (1 Ne to WoM). When they were doing their editorial review for the printer's manuscript, they edited a lot to make it more readable in English. But as they were getting near the end, the printer was catching up to them and they couldn't edit as much in the last sections of the translation. It is possible that 3 Ne 21 was about the point where the printer caught up, and they couldn't do as much editing. Consider how much of the BoM is between Mosiah and 3 Ne 21. We also find that there are a lot more cultural markers in 1&2 Ne as well. Again, a Hebrew linguistic quirk. Why did he separate out "wood" from a "straight stick"? Bows are usually not made of a single piece of wood. They are usually glued/laminated strips of wood. So, they'd be multiple pieces of wood, vs a single stick that merely needed to be carved. In English, when we "make something out of wood" we tend to think of wood as a "mass". But in Hebrew, it is spoken of as a plural (i.e. many "pieces of" wood). They don't say "pieces of" they simply make "wood" plural instead of singular. But the single stick used for the arrow? That was the singular. Compare to Exodous 37:1 and Ezekiel 37:16. They both use the same word for "wood" or "stick" (ates). But the former is plural; the latter, singular. Amazing.
    1 point
  17. All fair points. But it seems that these explanations aren't enough. It seems like they are no longer trying. The "overwhelm" per @Backroads is probably a fair comment on that. But they could still try a bit harder. Or at least they could just call it a day and preserve the fond memories of a really good series of movies. As it is they're destroying the legacy.
    1 point
  18. I'm gratified to see some of the younger generation starting to realize that some folks are just plain pushing the social agenda a bit too hard. The latest meme:
    1 point
  19. NeuroTypical

    Born Again

    Tips for what? How to spot/avoid them? How to change their opinions about things? I haven't been preached to by a born again person in a couple decades. But I did have an immensely enjoyable 3 hour long conversation with an atheist last month. Both of us talking 100 miles an hour, totally respectful. We managed to solve pretty much all of the world's problems in that conversation, but neither of us budged a single inch on our beliefs about God.
    1 point
  20. mordorbund

    New v. Old Avengers

    I’m not sure how fair a comparison those clips were. Hulk and Hawkeye are comparing movie effects and choreography against a tv series, isn’t it? And Black Widow is movie v. movie, but White Widow’s weak, goofy landing was done intentionally to mock Black Widow’s signature landing style. I can’t compare Wakanda to Iron Man because I didn’t even know that one was happening (happened?).
    1 point
  21. Carborendum

    Book of Mormon Language

    I just found something really amazing for me. I think it would fit perfectly with this thread. My missionary son (the one who got his Urkaine mission cancelled and is now in Layton, UT) found an old copy of the BoM in his apartment. It had some weird markups of various types. He said it was apparently a library copy, so it was probably marked up by someone who picked it up from a library. One thing he conveyed to me was that 3 Ne 21:1-7 had a marking stating: "Poor English, but perfect Arabic." He didn't know what that meant. But he knew that I'd been studying Hebrew lately (and he knew that Hebrew and Arabic were from the same language family) and wondered if I had any idea. I looked at Ch 21. Immediately I realized what he was talking about. I had never really thought much about the word order in the Book of Mormon. I was raised with it. I was used to it. And I have studied various languages enough to be able to decipher weird word order. But when the topic was on my mind, I realized those verses are absolutely terrible. Technically, it is grammatically acceptable. But stylistically, it's an aesthetic nightmare. So, I began understanding what @Jamie123 was talking about. He was right. There are some phrases that are terrible. So, taking a cue from my son, I looked up similar phrases in the Bible to compare with the Hebrew. I was AMAZED at the results. Virtually everything that seems weird (regarding word order) can be attributed to it being a translated work. Biblical Example: I think the translators of the KJV really tried to keep the word order from the Hebrew as much as practical. But there were some word orders that were so inscrutable that it simply wouldn't be decipherable in English. So, they changed what they felt they had to in order to convey the message. Not only that, but some verb conjugations had to be altered. Example: We use "will" to denote future tense. And we also use it to denote a commitment to do something. But both inflections (in parenthesis above) are actually present imperfect in Hebrew. I don't believe we have a present imperfect tense in English. The closest comparison would be the present progressive. And we seem to use that ad nauseum for everything. Hebrew has no progressive state, so it isn't quite the same as the meaning in Hebrew. I believe the translators did a good job. The context and voice of the English seems to indicate that the future tense is meant to hint at a present imperfect meaning. Now let's see what we read in 3 Ne 21. Notice that order of the direct object and indirect object placement. In English, we tend to want to drop a preposition where we can. So, instead of "I want to give a sign to you", we use "I want to give you a sign." Both are correct English. But stylistically, one is more preferable and more common. The verb "gather in" is worthy of note. When we have a split verb like this, we tend to put an object phrase between the two words. But in Hebrew, the word (asap) can be translated as either "gather" or "gather in". Regardless of the translation in English, the verb is complete as one word. So, the Hebrew word would have been translated as "gather in". Then the verb would have been followed by the object. And that is exactly how it reads in the BoM text. Also notice the use of the word "shall" instead of "will". I had always wondered about that. Why were both used throughout the Bible? In today's English, they both indicate a future tense. But it appears that (based on context) the "will" was used to indicate this "present imperfect" tense, while "shall" was used to indicate a future tense (in scriptures). That really gives some insight into the meanings of some passages of scripture. I haven't looked at the D&C, to see if it uses the same convention. It was fascinating to discover that this uneducated farm boy would have provided the word order that clearly indicate that it was a translated work from a language that was significantly similar to Hebrew.
    1 point
  22. Yeah the water appears to be cooler around Florida so hopefully that brings it's strength down a bit before landfall.
    1 point
  23. It’s too early to tell now but as of five hours ago, direct hit. Again though, it’s still too early and it’s expected to get weaker.
    1 point
  24. Our local Publix is still stocked quite well. It’s gasoline that I’m concerned about
    1 point
  25. JohnsonJones

    Fetal Hearbeat

    I don't know. He has straight up instructions for making an abortion drink in the Bible. It's one that causes a miscarriage and instructions on it's use. To many that shows that even the Lord supports the idea of abortion, at least in certain circumstances. Personally, I am of the generation (that probably is driving the latest Supreme Court decisions) that is completely against abortion. I think it is a dangerous thing to participate in no matter the circumstances in relation to your spiritual health and welfare. Personally I may feel it is something that should be outlawed except in cases of rape, incest, or the health of the mother. I also know much of that is driven by my religious beliefs rather than more logical ideas. The rational me dislikes the idea of any group of religious individuals pushing their beliefs on others. This is why I think our modern interpretations of the separation of Church and State are a good idea. In that light, taking a more logical though, the State (or government) should keep itself out of abortion AS LONG AS IT IS A MEDICAL ISSUE DECIDED BETWEEN A DOCTOR AND THE WOMAN. (in otherwords, anything that is done that is NOT from a medical doctor in the arena of abortion, I have no problem with it being outlawed). The State should not be dictating what has to be done by trained medical personnel in these types of situations. A doctor should not have to be afraid of trying to save the life of a woman or do something in relation to keeping her healthy because the state will punish him for doing so. A Doctor should be allowed to treat their patients to the best of their ability. The problem I have with many of these laws are that they are being made by those who have no medical experience, no medical training, and are not done in pursuit of saving lives or helping woman. They are being made purely from religious views with no insight into actually helping those who may need it. One result is that they cause doctors to be afraid of actually caring for the health of patients in certain situations. I am not a doctor, I know I should not be telling a doctor what they can or cannot do when trying to save someone's life or health. I think we should let doctors practice the medicine in these cases (and others), not someone in the government not connected to the situation, and even more so, most of those making the laws who have no medical training at all.
    1 point
  26. Ironhold

    Blitzkrieg

    Also, crystal meth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methamphetamine#History,_society,_and_culture One of the dirty little secrets of WWII was that Germany had developed what we now know as crystal meth. It was regarded as a "wonder drug" for how it stimulated people, and was sold over-the-counter in tubes under the name "Pervitin". Pretty much every German soldier was issued a supply of this, and it was also given to the factory workers at certain critical factories. The French reservists and second-line soldiers who were tasked with trying to defend the central portion of France from the German blitz simply didn't have a chance. They were poorly trained, poorly equipped, and having to fight tank-driving meth heads. Yes, France was so convinced that the Germans were going to invade through the flat northern portion and so put the bulk of their forces there; this left second-line and reserve forces in the center despite warnings from junior officers, and sure enough the German forces feinted in the north to conceal their push through the center.
    1 point
  27. Carborendum

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  28. laronius

    Eternal progression

    I don't think God has or ever will set a point in time (i.e. the end of our mortal probation) where he says our fate is sealed no matter how much we might be willing to progress in the future. There is no perfect mercy in that scenario, in my mind. So that leads me to wonder if there is another reason which might allow God to make permanent assignments to kingdoms of glory following this life. We are taught that the past, present and future are always before God as one eternal now. However that is possible perhaps there was never any doubt in His mind (and possibly even ours?) where every single soul should end up or in other words how far each of us would progress and the conditions we find ourselves in this life are simply geared to further that reality. This could be one explanation of why so many followed Satan because they did not like where they were heading under God's plan for His children.
    1 point
  29. Anddenex

    .

    What are you referring to regarding the "announcement"? If anything, he is more a puppet. The guy can't even think straight. Hard to be the beast when you truly can't act like one. He definitely is part of the great and spacious building, the mother of harlots, etc... Weaponizing government agencies, against political opponents, would definitely be a sign for this organization.
    1 point
  30. I've spent some more time thinking about this. And I'd like to add some things to the conversation. Many people in the Church believe that everything Joseph wrote in what we have today as the JST is a full and complete "correction". Well, they are wrong on two accounts. He never actually completed all of his markups. He was martyred before that was done. While he restored much that was lost (e.g. Matt 24) many of his markups were simply commentary & clarifications. They weren't meant to be "corrections" at all. There is a very famous volume known as the "Matthew Henry Commentary". It is considered the hallmark of Biblical commentaries throughout Christianity today. It appears that many of the comments and clarifications that Joseph wrote were nearly word-for-word copies of some of M.H.'s commentary. Some items, it seems, were not KJV mistranslations, but because Joseph was commenting that FOR OUR DAY, the scriptures would be worded a bit differently. 1 Tim 2 is a controversial chapter because it tells women to shut up and do what their husbands tell them to do. (Eph 5:22 also is one that the woke crowd uses to justify the claim that the Bible was clearly written by bigoted men. Forget about verse 21 or 25, that will ruin their narrative.) I took a closer look at 1 Tim 2:15 in various translations. Some translations will justify this connection of "she" (in the first phrase) and "they" (in the second phrase) by using "women" in place of "she". But the Greek clearly does not say that. The Greek texts clearly show a third person singular inflection for "she" and third person plural for "they". So, what are we to make of this? Many Saints will look at the JST and reckon that the version we have is simply a later version that didn't preserve the correct word. I think that is a mistake. I believe that the translation we have in the KJV is correct as it stands. That is probably what Paul wrote. As I stated in my previous post, I believe it was more of a commentary to update it for our dispensation rather than a correction of what our current texts say. There was counsel in that chapter about not wearing flagrant jewelry or hair styles, etc. But as a rule men simply didn't do that back then. It is only in today's society of luxury and opulence do men even have the notion of doing so. They have historically men doing so have been outliers. But since the renaissance? Especially in the last 50 years? Yes, men need to have the same counsel. Let me bring you back to the last phrase of the chapter. "...if THEY shall continue..." It was always about the unity of husband and wife. And if women have a particular problem, it is the prophet's job to shut women down. If men have a particular problem, it is the prophet's job to shut them down. I can't tell you how many Priesthood sessions of General Conference we've had that basically yelled at men to stop practicing unrighteous dominion. I would very often speak with Empress after every general conference to see if I was guilty of any of these behaviors that I'd just been lectured about. Most of the time, no. But there were times when she said yes. And I'd make efforts to correct it. But do we hear much of that being given to women? It is common to believe that we now have split priesthood and "women's" sessions in General Conference because of "wokeness" entering into the Church. I don't think so. I've read the Ensign after conference. And I find it interesting how many times I hear similar "unrighteous dominion" type comments now being given to women. It may be veiled. But it is there. Before, it was more like "stop being so hard on yourselves." Now it is more like, "Women of the Church have a responsibility to..." And sometimes, it isn't all sunshine and roses. So, it if it was really giving in to wokeness, I'd say -- Be careful what you wish for. You may get it.
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  31. I find it amusing that the very first quote states that there is no official declaration either way, but then it proceeds to provide all the quotes on one side only. Yes, that was the title of the page. But to what end? And all pages like this always include the following quote as if it supports the idea (which it does not): This is explicitly stating that this is NOT a sound doctrine, and he only supposes that exceptions may exist. But as a rule, it is not provided for. * I always accept and admit that there has been no official declaration of the doctrine of progression between kingdoms. But this seems to be a binary answer. As such, I see the following: If false, let's not continue saying it could be the case, lest people get the wrong idea. If true, it is still a dangerous doctrine to be spreading. The doctrine of the Three Degrees was withheld from mankind prior to the Resurrection for a reason. Man was not ready for it. As it is, if this "open kingdoms" (to coin a phrase) doctrine is true, is man ready for it? It is all too easy to interpret this as: I cannot come to any logical thought that would conclude that teaching the doctrine of progression between kingdoms will result in anything other than this mentality. Even it if is true, what good can come of teaching it with the state of man today? Alma warns us about this very mindset. Whatever that "exception" may be (if there is one or a few) it should be obvious that there is a very strong tendency (and possibly, inevitability) to maintain our current attitudes towards obedience and faith (we can call it a "mindset") after we leave this life. And it is that "mindset" that will determine just how far we can go. If complete progress is truly open for all, then that means there really is no separation at all. So this doctrine of the three degrees is meaningless. I would think that if the doctrine of "open kingdoms" is true at all, it would be only in the rarest of circumstances (as Pres. Smith said in the quote above). If the kingdoms truly are open, then what does the doctrine of the three degrees even mean?
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  32. Connecting ones worth to ones gender is a dicey game.
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  33. Carborendum

    Falling Stars

    And lest we forget... I remember a movie about a bunch of pre-pubescent boys having a pow-wow about their celebrity objects of their affection. Three of the above were mentioned as alternatives to Ginger and Mary Ann. (No implication on present company, of course).
    1 point
  34. Just_A_Guy

    Falling Stars

    I’m not exactly sure why I dislike Grease so viscerally; but I do. I see it as a major step backward in the country’s morality; and its appeal to teenagers made it particularly insidious. ONJ was part and parcel of that culture (“Let’s Get Physical” was deeply problematic); and while I hope she finds repentance—I can’t say the world is a worse place for her absence.
    1 point
  35. The Folk Prophet

    Recession

    May or may not apply. May or may not be interesting. But my buddy and I did a podcast on The Recession, if anyone has the time or interest:
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  36. Vort

    Falling Stars

    And partially because our culture has come to be dominated by celebrities, so there's simply more celebrities to die today than there ever have been. And those celebrities take up more space in our mental and emotional make up than they ever did before.
    1 point
  37. Vort

    Book of Mormon Language

    Ten generations hence, my descendants will be your descendants. We will each be but one of a thousand ancestors of our generation. I dearly hope my precious great-great-etc-grandchildren receive from you, either genetically or by teachings that have perpetuated through the generations, traits and understandings that improve their lives and make them happier and holier. It truly is not a competition, but more like a joint venture where all parties profit by the success of the other parties.
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  38. Vort

    Book of Mormon Language

    Nothing wrong with a split infinitive. Never was. We split our infinitives just like we divide our verbs and end sentences with prepositions. English ain't Latin. As for "begs the question", that particular misusage stretches to the breaking point my acceptance of Noam Chomsky's linguistic ideas. I'm a big proponent of linguistic descriptivism instead of prescriptivism. In linguistics, today's connotation is often tomorrow's denotation, and I think it's important to recognize and teach that principle to our children. But "begs the question" simply does not mean "raises the question", no matter how much people might misuse it. I am sympathetic to arguments that "beg the question" is a strange word choice that does not make obvious sense in 21st-century spoken English. But I don't care. (How's that for sympathy?)
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  39. Jane_Doe

    Free will

    An important refinement on this to make (speaking as an LDS Christian lady) Free will is foundational to what it is to be. It is intrinsic to whom person is. The Father acknowledges this. Christ (whom was always the chosen to be the Savior) choose to follow in His Father's wisdom in this regard. It was Lucifer whom then said (in essence) "Time out-- no no, that's a horrible idea. I'll force everyone to behave. I'll be the Savior I"ll be the most High!". The Father already had the Plan, Lucifer's rebellion was never a valid option. But Lucifer did always have the option to obey or rebel, and he choose rebellion. You can't get a more anti-Calvinist view point than LDS Christians. The "sovereignty of God" is... not a concern. Just zero. We have all have choices- you, me, the Father, etc. They are intrinsic. Obviously some things aren't possible and consequences comes with choices. Even the Father acknowledges this and works within that framework.
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  40. What I have to tell myself every day until the hurricane hits. and if anyone can send more Hershey’s bars, thanks.
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  41. It’s mostly the snowbirds and really new residents that are going crazy. For the rest of us, this ain’t our first rodeo.
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  42. mikbone

    Falling Stars

    Nurse Ratched.
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