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Oh come on... how many Mormons get married >22 and extremely immature? I think that's a bit of a generalized statement... All I want right now is to put this aside me, and if something happens great! And to see her, and for her to just be happy, and I guess him as well.

I get it...And you're very right I agree about coping with anxiety. And yes, I have spoken with a therapist before. I do want to see her, so perhaps I will ask her to stop by today or so before I go back home for Thanksgiving just to have a nice friendly conversation? We've been talking more and it's much more like usual now...

Haha, yep! Casual communication with txting is so easy. The sad thing is their is a lack of emotion in it. So it's good and bad. Well I had a nice talk with her tonight that started out kinda serious about stuff then we started talking a lot more normal about normal stuff just without the romantic element to it but I could tell we were both holding back. It was more then a friendly conversation. I want to forget about her but can't. I feel like I'm 16 again in stupid puppy love but I think it's more then that. I guess I'll ride it out. I'm going back for Thanksgiving soon, so I hope I see her before then as well.. Any more tips is very much appreciated. This forum is a great utility!!!

I suppose you're really right. I just can't stand the anxiety. I don't want to move on, and it's so painful in the meantime. He does not want to go back on a mission either I just learned, so now she is really feeling awful. What a nightmare for all. So should I just not contact her at all unless she contacts me or?

Not really. I've barely sent her any messages today and after she didn't respond for 4 hours I said to please tell me you're okay and she said "ya im okay" that's it.

She wont even respond to my messages now. I'm so discouraged. Why wont she respond / talk to me??

Skippy.. true I suppose. And FairChild thank you .. that was very motivational and I'm glad you agree that it's despicable for this family to treat her this way. I just pray for her to release these feelings of guilt! I will share this with her if I can talk to her... so hard.

Yeah I know Stallion, I agree with you 100%. I've felt like this about one other girl, and I know that as much as I want to forget about this (new) girl, I can't. I wish I could. But sometimes you just have to try. I don't want to someday wonder "what if".

Thanks for the answers so far.. keep em coming! Yes, the baggage, emotions, etc. are HUGE and it's true I can't expect anytime of relaxed serious relationship in the near near future. I really wish this wasn't so much getting to me. I really wish I could just get over her, but I can't. I know we have something, and I do want to be there for her... I just want to know how I can be there for her and pray something becomes of it. Edit: And for myself, if I do try to wait for her for 6 months, and it doesn't somehow work out, I'd be even more crushed. I think I have to though. I just wish she could either go with him or something or we could work it out fast. Life is never easy it seems.

I'm not sure how to start this, but I thought other LDS folks would probably understand this the best, and perhaps offer some advice. So I am in college and met a girl a few months ago (LDS as well). We met at a dance, and she was an amazing, and intelligent person from the start. Now, I'm a convert, 19 years old ( I am not going on a mission due to other reasons including my family, etc) , and she is 18. We got pretty serious, very fast, and I did learn quite quickly that she did have an ex-boyfriend who had recently left on his mission and was at the MTC. I've been in relationships up to about 9 months and I know how the love and caring works, and I know that 2 years would be pretty insane. I knew she still had some feelings for this guy because of that, but regardless I knew also that she was an amazing person who deserved so much better then him. He cheated on her, and they also did not exactly follow the law of chastity during their relationship. She however has repented for all of this. He on the other hand, comes from a very strong LDS family (from what I hear). A few nights ago, she got a call from him... He had been released from the MTC after admitting to not repenting for his past sins. Her family did know what they had done (as she repented, etc.) , but his did NOT. So anyway, after she found out he was back she has been an emotional wreck. Now me, like an idiot, thought that this was because she wanted to get back with him. Instead, it is really because she feels it is entirely her fault completely for having sex with him while he was preparing for a mission. So like an idiot on my part, I told her HIM OR ME because I started feeling the jealousy thinking she just wanted to dump me. I wasn't really right, and now she is a wreck , we are not really together. So now, his family, even part of her family, etc. is BLAMING HER entirely for this! The guys mom told her today that if he didn't go back on his mission in a year, it would be her fault. In my opinion, this is AWFUL!!! I almost threw up when I heard they were trying to push this type of guilt on her. It makes me just sick. Yes, she sinned and it was bad. But it was just as much his if not more and now she is basically being pushed to like marry him or something because she thinks that everything is her fault and she's terrible!! I finally got to talking to her on txt a tiny bit tonight, and I can tell she feels awful and I feel terrible for at first putting my feelings ahead of hers when I realize how much this has affected her. So please -- how on earth can I comfort her, and perhaps still be with her?? I know what a good person she is, and how much I truly care for her and love her. I'd love to here what you would do in this situation. Thank you kindly.

Well true-- Perhaps I should rephrase then. What are a few things I should take out of both of these sections? I am meeting with the local missionaries again and try to get a good understanding when I don't know a lot about the chapter. Thanks!

Hi! I am in the process of converting and had a few questions on what the most important parts were of: -2nd Nephi, Ch. 31 - Chap. 2 . Adam & Eve. Thanks! I want to try to get the most :) Anton

Thanks so much for all of the answers... They are MUCH appreciated , and very good. I really like the LDS community, and look forward to being apart of it!

I was baptized Catholic, and am in the process of converting. My family however is rather moderate though on any religion..

Hello all! Firstly, I am in the process of hopefully converting soon, and I am meeting with some missionaries at my home. I met with them the other day, and they asked that I read "Moroni Chapter 10" before our next meeting this evening. I have read it, and I would like to gain a bit of understanding of it before our next meeting. I am very new to the text, and would just like a brief overview of the most important aspects of this chapter. Thanks so much to all! :)