happyirish

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  1. LOL. Sorry, I couldn't change it. I tried editing it but it just wouldn't budge. It was catchy, though . I mean, you couldn't miss it.
  2. Are all the books that you listed above, are they written by people associated with the LDS church or doctrine?</span></span> If so, please provide some books written by people that are not linked to the LDS church.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span> Son of Paul, (Congrats on working toward your Masters Degree - an awsome accomplishment)</span></span> You are correct in assuming the books I listed have LDS content. I had assumed from the questions you originally posted, that you were not interested in researching books without reference of the LDS faith. Because you were asking if the Book of Mormon could stand up to academic scrutiny, I had assumed you had researched all other possibilities, and came to the conclusion that it couldn't. One couldn't legitimately decide if the Book of Mormon were true unless they had read it. Again, I assumed you had, but I put it in the list anyway. The Trial of the Stick of Joseph is a book that has scientific and historical, factual, verifiable evidences in it. It is written in the spirit of proving the BOM false (it is in story form rather than research text). I included it because it gives both sides of the idea. The Evidences of Christ in Ancient America is a reseach book - no story form. It is a straight documentation of scientists who search for evidence proving or disproving the historical content of the BOM. There are pictures of the archeological digs, to boot. It has endorsements from LDS and non-LDS alike. The research has been documented by Harvard specialists and is wholly verifiable. I considered this a very good read for people who are not LDS because it focuses on the historical acuracy of the BOM. It makes it more of a historical documentation, rather than an attempt to convert people. You asked if it could stand up to academic scrutiny, and in that book, it has. It's been researched, verified, and documented. Of course this does not address faith issues, just the historical events. Of course, if you are asking if the faith will stand academic scrutiny - I don't think any faith can. If someone doesn't want it, no amount of proof will make them. That's an opinion, of course. Quote"Well, those people that have nothing to gain from supporting either group, but care about comparing the facts of one company to the facts of another." I don't have anything to gain from pointing these books out to you. I don't get gold stars on my crown after death for assisting in a conversion. I was pointing them out to help you decide if the BOM would stand up to academic scrutiny - your academic scrutiny. I didn't think you were looking for someone else to scrutinize it, for it is you that had the interest in knowing in the first place. Do you have something to gain from asking these questions, or have you already decided the answers? Most LDS people have already given the BOM serious consideration. Are these questions for our benefit, or yours? Or strictly for pondering? Maybe I wasn't reading you correctly...it has been known to happen. Remember, I am a convert of 10 years. These are the two books that I found most helpful. If anything, they are at least interesting. I'm not trying to be a smarty pants, or be argumentive. I'm just pointing out where to find physical evidence (if that's what you are after) Again, good luck with your studies. If nobody sees a post from you, I'm sure they can safely assume you are just too darn busy - and with good reason. happyirish (operative part is happy) for the record </span> I've edited this 50 times, the size won't change correctly - my appologies.
  3. Son of Paul, I'm new to this site and I was just reading over your post. I am a convert to the church, 10 years now. I wasn't considering it at all in my life before conversion. But, nothing has spoken to me quite like the Book of Mormon. I was humbled by it. I will never go back. That is what I told the protestant church member outside of the Salt Lake Temple, who was protesting our religious beliefs...interesting way to attempt to covert people...by spreading contention and judging others in a critical, unforgiving manner...my, how Christlike. I found the post a bit on the antagonistic side. However, as far as I can see, our Gods are the same, we just have more information about him, at our fingertips through the book of mormon. All biblical text has been translated. They certainly didn't speak modern english B.c and early A.D. So let me ask you, did you personally know the profits who translated the Old Testament and New Testament? ... Me either. It comes to this: it's a matter of faith. You may believe one way and I believe another. But, we are not separate so much. You and I are both children of God and will be judged accordingly, no matter what book we chose to follow. Our faith in God will determine our fate. The whole knowledge of God has withstood every possible scrutinizing action. So will all legitimate books that teach Heavenly Fathers Word. SO here's a question for you: What if God testifies to each of us whatever religion will help us stay closest to him? Me-LDS, My family-Catholic, and you-your confirmed choice. All help us love him to the best of our ability and we all work hard at it, reading the best books and making choices based on the spirit we feel. I believe the BOM is true. The spirit confirms it's validity, to me. If your intention was to really find out if it would stand up to an academic studying, here are a few books that might interest you. They are of the academic level you are referring to: 1. The Trial of the Stick of Joseph 2. Evidences of Christ in America. 3....for good measure...The Book of Mormon All contain verifiable evidences. Happy reading :)