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I very much appreciate all of your comments and input.. Its certainly helped me understand the churches position on this a lot better.. thanks again...

The subject of abortion has come up recently among folks that I know well.. Its an awful subject and one I dread to even discuss..This could be be the wrong Forum for this.... Here is the question A woman who years ago..a nonmember and in dire straits.... has an abortion.. Later in her life she hears about the church.. accepts it.. is baptized and becomes a member.. She meets her companion to be and marries and then prepares to go to the temple soon afterwards in order to have the sealing performed.. I am aware that in the Lords Own time there will be answers for all of us for all things.. My question in this is... can she obtain a temple recommend?? and Yes..all sins are washed away at Baptism.. I just have a hard time wrapping my head around this one. .Doubtless I answered my own question here .. but would very much appreciate all of your comments please.. and many thanks in advance..

For me, now seeing the full effects of an "innocent online relationship"... my advice would be to run and not walk as far away from your computer as you can get. I don't care how innocent it begins.. I also don't care how strong one thinks they are in the gospel and committed to their marriage.Run... and don't look back. My wife of 31 years now lives several states away from me, our kids and several grand kids because she got into such a strong emotional affair with another "active and married member, that she could no longer honor her marriage vows and also covenants made in the holy temple. This is playing with fire of the hottest kind and will not turn out well for anyone getting involved emotionally with someone who is not their spouse. This is exactly like Charles Dickens talked about in his book... "'''it was the best of times and the worst of times...' I seem to feel now that, having never believed this would happen to my spouse and I, that the power of the adversary over this medium of the internet is magnified far greater than any other thing we come up against. There are many reasons for this.. but primary reasons are the ability to remain anonymous so much of the time,the ability to achieve"instant gratification, the sheer numbers willing of available internet partners and the ability to transact such a large amount of communications in privacy. All of these things add to the reasons to help break down ones' moral sense and also help " carefully" draw one into a place that they should never ever be. I ask that you don't try and prove how strong you are by getting involved and then suddenly be over your head..It will always be a carefully controlled decent into an area you never wish to be. and don't belong Its been a year now for me since my wife left. Her feelings for the other dude are compounded by his constant contact with her of text messages of an average of over 175 per day. As for me I simply explain that I still love her and forgive her and that she has to take steps to return. Extensive counseling with church counselors on both ends have resulted in one fact.. Sorry.. we don't know what to do with her.. she cannot make a decision. his course is to still try to end his own marriage ( yes a temple marriage)but his own wife is thankfully throwing up a fight. His priesthood leader still feels he is 'just trying to help"....I am not going into any kind of criticism about him.. but this is clearly over his head.I don't even know if the handbook of instructions has sections on this sort of thing yet; So this can and will be an awful thing for anyone to go thru.I only hope that my note would help anyone contemplating such a move to not now or ever find themselves in a similar state. You will surely find hell on earth by following this path.

In reference to the above topic..Following the counsel of the church leaders is all important and absolutely necessary.. they will never ever lead us astray..ever... Sometimes, however, a some help form the 'outside' is also something to take note of.. I don't know how many of you remember Ann Landers.. she used to write an advice column in the papers..and those of us in the 60's and 70's probably learned more about "life" from her than anyone else.. She was candid and outspoken but to the point.. Her fail safe advice to avoid " going too far before marriage' was succinct and to the point.. The woman was to take one aspirin ( and only 1) and place it between her knees and hold it firmly there.. It worked well. It still does.