Darkpaw1
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It also depends on what part of their figure you're 'admiring'. If it is their face and hair then I feel you're pretty safe. Yet Japanese culture, especially manga/anime are notorious for portraying immodest girls, very short skirts being one example. There is also a difference between pictures of Japanese Girls and Japanese Women. If the pictures you're admiring is of those who are actual girls as in underage, then yes I think that's a problem too.
Those who are LDS have been given specific guidelines as to what is modest and what is not. Are the pictures of individuals who would pass the guidelines set forth in the 'For the Strength of Youth' pamphlet? If they are not, then no it is not good that you're looking them up and pointedly admiring them. A single glance in passing of such a gal as you pass them by in the street is one thing. Turning to look again and again so long as they're in line of sight or pointedly looking at, admiring and studying their features in private? Something completely difference. The guidance then would be... stop.
Here's a test... would you feel comfortable if your bishop was sitting next to you viewing those pictures of those girls? If you wouldn't be comfortable with your bishop, I doubt you'd be comfortable if it were the Lord either. If you wouldn't be comfortable with the Lord... should you be viewing those pictures?
Regardless as to whether or not what you're doing is sinful, know that your current actions do provide a door for the adversary to tempt you that otherwise would not be available to him.
Agreed dude. I think I'll stop
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If by "living in Japan" you mean spending two or three or five years there, then do whatever blows your skirt up. If instead you mean living there as a resident foreigner for the long term, like the rest of your life, you ought to reconsider that rash idea. The Japanese are very polite but are famously xenophobic, and justly so. As a gaijin in Japan, you will never be accepted in society as anything but an oddity. Unless you enjoy living as a second-class citizen, you should reconsider the idea.
Thats a bit rash dont you think? To declare Japanese citizens as anti-immigrant is pretty hypocritical. I mean if they are probably a bit dgy toward Americans but so are the French and you dont see people dislike going there.
I inend to teach there of possible one day too so I don't think not vising Japan is an option.
Anyone I know who has married for looks has done so with pretty disastrous results. Looks change and beauty fades, and then you still have to live with that person. Marrying a Japanese girl because she's "cute" is pretty immature and short-sighted as far as a healthy, long-term marriage is concerned.@Dravin
Yeah I am not looking at them pervertedly. But sometimes I do get aroused, not intenntionally of course but it just happens. Like the picture isn't bad or anything it just happens. Like once there was a picture of a Japanese girl just standing in aa 1990s shirt and pants nothing special but her face was really pretty, and once I noticed how cute she was I wa aroused. Ironcially though, earlier today I seen a video of these Japanese girls practicing English in a classroom (might've been a game show I dont know) and did not get aroused in the least. I thought they were exceptionally cute too. My guess is I just find them attractive but not influencing bad thoghts in my head. So no worries there,
And I am not fixating the "perfect girl" based on such a woman. I have standards but noen that is unrealistic. Like I'll date any race, any ethnicity, beatiful or ugly, as long as she keeps herself decently healthy, good hygene, and is friendly. Of course I have more but offf the top of my head without much thought thats generally it. Aside from preferences, yeah I 'prefere' beauty, I 'prefere' certain races over others, but those are all things I "prefer" and I dont cast aside a girl if she doesn't fit me perfectl. I'd accept a girl as she is. No girl is ever gona be perfect so I learn to accept their inperfections. And I truy enjoy imperfections. Sure I wdanna date a Japanese girl but I also enjoy dating white girls, chubby girls, spansih girls, french girls, Indian girls, etc. I just find at the top is cute Japanese girls, and desiring the opportunity to see what it'd be like to go on a date is nothing wrong. a small dream is a small dream. Now if I decided tod o something like, single out all the Asian girls I know then yeah it'd be a bit of a issue but fantasizing about being in Japane on a date with a cute Japanese girl doesnt seem so bad, no?
Um... I don't intend to segregate other races from the girls I wish to date, I do not understand why you seem to beleive beauty is my primary intention. Yes, I find Japanese girls cute but I would not marry somone based on their looks. What I meant to point out is Ifind Japanese girls cute AND I would like to date one. Not marry one. I mean yes dating ultimately leads to marriage but over such course of dating I'd naturally grow fond of her. The same can be said for any of the girls in my ward and such. If I ever had an oppprotunity to go on a date with one of them I'd be delighted all the same, and might even grow fond of them, maybe even marry her. Just because a girl is not cute does not mean I will not date her, in fact I am very un-shallow. I have my preferences, like eveyone else. I find some girls pretty while other guys do not and vice-versa. Same goes for personality.
Pint is, is narrowing down who you'd like to date isn't a bad thing at all. If say I was asked to hang out with a really big girl. Now I actually love big girls dont get me wrong (heck I'm pretty chubby mself) but of course I also desire for them to take care of themselves, as such I have my standards when it'd come to chubby girls opposed to really big girls. And you can argue I might like this big girl and I'd be happy to be friends with her but if I see we don't mix too well I am in no obligation to taking the extra step and asking her out. I might if I began to like her a bit but if I can see much with her I will rather stay friends, at least for now.
Now choosing to admire cute girls, particularly Japanese is nothing personal against other girls or races. Naterually yes, cute girls will have an edge, its just how the natural brain works, at first glance anywya. But down the line as you get to know somone whether dating or not you find how much you like that person, and when you make that decision thats when the "L" word comes in, when you can fully except the good and flaws of that person. I am just saying on point blank that since I am not focused on any one girl at the moment that perhaps taking time to plan to go to Japan and (very likely) date a Japanese girl eoesn't seem like a bad idea. Wll I dump the plan if I date before then? Of course not. Will I dump somone the second I am ready to go to Japan? Of course not either. What I am saying is if and while I am in this state of singleness I will plan ahead and hope for an optimistic outcome, among so hope I would meet a Japanese girl.
You over reacted a bit. That's like telling your 12 year old daughter she's too young to date whenever she goes berserk over Justin Beiber.
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Some men find buck teeth attractive, others women who are on the chuncky side, and still others are fond of certain hair colors and types. Stature may be an issue, with some liking tall, and others short.
I was an exchange student in Korea, then stayed an extra six years doing mission work and teaching. The young ladies were cute, and I ultimately married my roommate's sister. Ironically, I did not have a meeting with her until the last year of my sojourn there. So...sure, it's okay to take a fancy to Asian girls. Just keep God first, and let his timing and person for you come naturally. Heavenly Father may grant this desire of your heart...or he may surprise you with a different blessing...open mind, but honest about your likes...you should be fine.
Thanks that brings me a lot of comfort. Just find Asian/ Japanese really cute and was worried if googling up a picture or video of the average Japanese girl was bad or not.
Your quote though makes me wonder something else though. Is it a sin to meet people through the internet? Because as you know I have the intention of visiting and ultimately living in Japan one day and I thought it might be nice to chat with some other LDS from Japan. It would also help me edge up on my Japanese too. Though naturally, I might come across meeting a nice girl from Japan.
I beleive the prophets discourage internet dating, not that I think kindly of it either; but I want to know if it's ok to date over the internet in this situation. Like I have no intention of going on a LDS dating site or anything but if I was to meet a nice girl from Japan and after several months or so we grow close, would it be bad for us to like wanna date. Like, obviously it probably wouldn't be serious (then again I never even done so much as a long distance relationship) but would it be bad to say like if somone asks me if I hav been dating lately and I say " well I found this nice girl I skype with, we never met and she lives in Japan, but I do plan to meet her soon one day", would that be bad?
Its just i think the prophets discourage online dating. But what if a relationship happens just from meeting them online, not in a dating site but just from a friendly site that helps you meet other YSA members from other countries? I would hate to start getting to know somone overseas then have a church leader tell me that it isn't healthy for me to date somone overseas without having the intention of meeting them frequently (I do intend to go to Japan, just won't be for 2-4 years).
What is the church's veiw on internet dating? What is their veiw on somewhat unintentinally dating, like not going on a dating site but just happening to meet somone nice over the internet and dating eventually, can I date them or do I have to decline until I am able to at least meet them once?
And is there a site where young LDS members can just hang and chat with people from other countries? I think it'd be pretty cool to find out how they celebrated their Chinese New Yeear's in Japan (yesterday).
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Hello, I am a young adult learning Japanese. naturally, I do hope one day to move to Japan. I enjoy their culture and since I am a fan of anime/manga, naturally I'd want to move to Tokyo. Well in my time learning Japanese I have grown fond of Asian and Japanese woman. Not in any perverse way but basically I find them to eb really cute. And personally, out of all the races I would be estatic if one day I'd be lucky enough to meet such a young lady (I actually know a couple). In all honesty, I would find it nice to date an Asian woman, even more if I was to date one from Asia or Japan itself. Not to say I have a single eye for Asian/Japanese girls but like the title suggest I admire their beauty.
I really think Japanese girls are cute. As such, I would google or youtube a picture of a Japanese girl, then sigh, and wish I was in Japan rofl. Of course, the pictures aren't anything perverted or anything; generally what I try to find is somethign like the average Japanese college student or some people just hanging out, or something. what worries me is I wonder if it is a sin to admire them this way, or basically is it a sin to google up pictures of pretty girls this way?
Additionally, I dont have a girlfriend or anything though I am seeing this one girl. Its not serious, heck we're not even dating or anything, but we have hung out a few times. I like her and I think she likes me but as far as either of us knowing anything is null. I know wellll enough it wouldn't be well for me to desire to date other girls if I was dating somone, but sicne I am not dating somone is it ok to wish to date a girls from other countries like Asia or Japan?
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There is medical evidence regarding transgender which I am not prepared to share here since I will be shot down in flames.
Feel free to share dude don't mind the flamers. I ama ctually quite curious what medical evidence you might know that may or may not influence the churchs decion to motion a change in how they handle transgenders. After all it wouldn't be the first time the church had to reference a scientific analysis, which often helped explain or understandings, such as abortion.
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It really is quite perplexing isn't it.
I dont know what to thinka ctually. If a pre op male was to seek dating another member who do they date a male or female? If they date a male it is gay since the genitalia is the same and if they date a woman then the body is the same, only benefit to the woman is that the pre op can get the woman pregnant thus naturally being able to have children. But this is all assuming that transgenders can date, and who they can date depending if its based on their outer appearence or their actual sex.
Then it is the story of your hermaphrodite friend. She was brung into the world without a choice so I can see why her desicion to choose who to marry and such was made: but if she still had both her genitialia intect it wouldv'e been quite difficult, because he wouldv'e been both sexes at the same time. Sp who would a hermaphrodite seek to marry a male or female, perhaps neither?
Only answerable logic to this would be for the transgender to only date other transgenders opposite of their medical sex as then the complexity kindv'e cancels out, and thats very unfair and not to mention descriminating toward transgenders.
I understand now why this si so complex. I know it is a very tough issue but the adversary seeks to seperate men by confusion of whats right and wrong, especially when it coms to sexual identity, which is why today we have so many confsed men and women who decide to be gay. I wish the church would make a direct staement to transgenders in the church because right now, though there is few, transgenders are in a grey area.
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Guess you're right on that one. If anything it cant b helped since nobody seems to have an opinion on the matter itself, thanks dude.
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Its not soemthignt hat came up in my church or anything but I have seen it pop up in a cuple of other churches. Thismade me cuiouson the churches standings with transgendered regarding transgenders.I shared what I know but most of it is related to cross dressing and homosexuality; which we all know is a big sin. But none of what pulled up is about transgender, though I didoverhear in a converstaion about it a while ago that they have to date somone opposite of there sex. And this I found quite unfair if it was true, thus it sat at the back of my mind. And now I'm here posting the question to see if a year later after I overheard this rumor (and finally have a computer and found a church site) to find an answer.
And I agree most people do answer with "ask your Bishop". Whcih is an good answer but I'm more looking for opinions, as bishops dont seem to knowthe exact answer on such a thing since the church hasn't given concrete standards on pre-op transgenders.
I just feel that the church needs to address this at that leaves a big grey area for certain people who are born like this. A person who is investigating the church feels really ecite to join but then when she learns in her interview she'll have to reveal her sex she resets the date of her interview for baptism. Then she doessn't see the churches standard on transgenders so she either A) lie and has larger problems later or B) never join because she wouldnt wanna risk getting excommunicated in the future or some other form of odd embarresment or trouble. Sure she could simply ask somone but who is she/he gonna ask, its not like you can ask a Missionary "hey can I join even though I am male, down there, and if so what exactly is my guidlines on such things like dress-wear, dating, and priesthood authority". Theres no exact answer for this and thys the grey area effect.
I just wanna know if you gys have any insight or whats your opinion on this case. And of course direct fact answers are welcome too.
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Yeah, what I mean is transgenders who are post op, who aslo lean heavily toward their unintended sex, sch as a male completely appearing female. with the exception of his sex which is down there.
Reason why I ask is because there seems to be a huge grey area when it comes to transgenders. Like wha about a transgender pre op who has joined the church. It is a sin to get a sex change type of surgery or take the hormones, so they have to live intended a their sex.
Now if a transgender pre op was to join the church naturally he/she would be comfortable with their sex and body so i cant see any reason for them to get a sex change surgery. but this still leaves the question as to whom would they date?
Jezebel, you are saying that they should dress acccording to their outside appearence of their sex, since that clothing would best fit their appearence. But at the same you are saying they must date somone opposite of their actual sex. This means a transgendered pre op male must date a woman, but they still both have the same body, with a small exception.Not to mention making that step toward woman might be difficult since both their body and homones are geared toward attracting and being attracted to men.
This is where the grey zone lies. Hormones says the sex opposite of their outer body, but their sex between their legs says the the opposite of their actual sex, but by doing this they are being with somone whose outer body resemlbes the same sex as theres, and overall their homrones say go date a person whose outher sex appearence is opposite. So either way they mess up either by their exact sex, there appeared sex, or there hormonones who steers them toward such sex?
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I know transgenders are considered the sex they are born in "down there", what confuses me is does all the principles of apply as to such.
For example: A transgender goes to a beach YSA event.Now in this case the transgender is a male by sex but has a female figure, as in female with the exception of whats between his legs. Now she goes to a YSA beach event, what does he wear? She is considered a male so naturally she would go in shorts and topless but at the same time his body is of a womans. It seems in either case it would be dressing modest or looking and feeling quite out of place; absolutely no middle ground. What is the church's veiw on this, as he is still a male and should be treated as one but at the same time the role of medesty may fall in but in this sense his chest are no different than a kid thats a bit chubby just he has a female body to match. What is the churches veiw on this?
Another is transgender's and marriage. How does the church veiw transgenders and dating/ marrying? I mean, it would be pretty odd for a male with the body of a female dating another female, but at the same time it might be wrong for a guy to date a female appearing transgender.
Laslty what are the church's veiw on dress code for transgenders? Do they have to dress as their gender or as they feeel, does this account to normal genders too? Like say theres a transgender female who looks likes an average male, does she wear a church suite which would look normal but not fit her sex, or a church dress which would look out of place, vice versa. And what of a regular gender, is it a sin to cross dress?
I guess you can see how the questions are related? I was unable to find any answers about such things anywhere, I figured sicne its a year or so later since I actually tryed to find an answer some people might know now. If anything feel free to share your opinons.
Personally as far as the beach attire would go, I would say if the transgender feels ok with it let them go in swimtrunks and topless. Not just on gender equality but for the fact of respect. It wouldnt be easy for a guy to not rudely stare at first butthis is point, they have to learn to respect that person. And I'm certain after a couple of beach events or so they would learn to respect that guy (guess this could be said for women's breast too); nonetheless onced they see that guy as truly a guy and not a woman they wont treat him as suh anymore.
is shapped as of a woman, and would help ease them into comforting zone, especially if its in a area where not everyne is a member and might not know she is acctually a he.
Or do both, the above for in sanctioned pool events with members who are aware or who you can amke known your sex and the one below for public events like beaches.
And on the other side, wearing a woman's bathing suite fits as well. As their body
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It's natural to be attracted to the opposite sex. God created us that way. As long as we don't make those thoughts lustful then your fine.after all, there is a big difference between seeing a beautiful woma and seeing an sexy woman. Just when your in the presence of one of these nude models, don't thinly so hard about the sexual features of her body, ratherfocus on her body as a whole; how her hair flows long over her shoulders, or how her waste and pelvis makes an awkward triangle shape as that pose she's in. If you get aroused its ok, that means your body is functioning properly. Just try to resist lustful thoughts. Like its ok to think het body looks nice, even if its something intimate, its your job snd you're trained for it. Just don't allow yourself to turn that thought into a lustful one, and wonder about touching, seeing, etc things that is clearly not good. I recommend just silently singing a hymn. It will definitely help keep your mind clean. If your still unsure, just pray, ask of God for your answer concerning what you must do.
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Is it a sin to circumcise?
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Is it a sin to get a curcumcision? I ask because I know it is a sin to alter your body, because our body is a temple. As such, doing things like getting tattoos or any form of permanently altering our body is a sin. Small things like dying yoour hair is ok, and even fake tattos, but permanent things that leave a mark like peircings is a not allowed.
Well circumcision does leave a mark in a sense as well. The peice of forskin removed from the penis is not a drastic change but it is still an altered change that permanently effects the body. Jesus has dne away with the old laws of circumcision being required but at the same time does it now become a sin to do so? I mean, yes the change is seemingly good and appearence wise is appealing for our spouse but overall isn't doing such a thing a sin, as now there is no good to come of it except physical attraction, and even then that doesn't warrant altering ones body.
I just wished to know because I wouldn't want to do this to my son and have him live with the rest of his life because of my mistake, not that it would be so tragic or anything, just wanna advoid it if possible. If circumcision is not a sin I will go through with it when and if I have a son as even if the benefit is mostly for a means he will only use once he is married its still a benefit unto him.
Nonetheless, is circumsion a sin in the church or is it ok?