hobomidget
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So... your God is the President of the United States of America and your doctor... that's fine...
But that's not what we, the LDS believe.
If the President of the United States of America all of a sudden declares a Purge Day (it's a movie opening in theaters soon)... that all crimes are legal including murder from 8PM to 8AM on July 4, 2014....
It's not all of a sudden going to be MORAL to do so.
If your doctor declares that having a Purge Day is the cure to cancer...
It's not all of a sudden going to be MORAL to do so.
Of course, you are free to choose what moral code you follow for yourself.
That is a rediculouse argument. Your argument, is not to allow the incurribly ill to have a medical treatment that suits them, and not to handicap medical science. Yes, that sounds religouse to me, because it has absolutely no logic.
"If there is someone who chooses to use medical MJ for their condition that is their choice and right. However if their bishop is of the understanding that medical MJ breaks the word of wisdom. Then the bishop has every right not to sign off on a recommend for that person and potentially restrict other church worthiness related things. He is the gatekeeper that is his job, the medical MJ user has no right to expect his desires and understanding to trump the bishops."
Well than, atleast we will know who to go after on "Purge" day than.
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This is not correct. If your doctor tells you that to cure you from leukemia you will need stem cells infusion from an aborted baby and your spiritual adviser tells you that abortion is immoral, you go get another doctor. Why? Because... aborted babies are not the only source of stem cells.
Just like marijuana is not the only cure for whatever it is that's ailing you.
My brother is a doctor. Doctors are supposed to heal holistically - that is, take into account the entire person. Medical treatment, therefore, should not go against the patient's conscience because mental health is an important part of a patient's health.
US Law 101: Federal Law trumps State Law. That is why, even if Kentucky and Delaware did not sign the 13th Amendment, all their slaves became free when the 13th Amendment got ratified when Georgia got on board completing the 3/4 of all States requirement to amend the Federal Constutition..
If I needed stem cell from an aborted fetus, I would have that too.. Why, cause you can make stem cells for just that purpose. Them cell is the cutting edge of medical science, and I would not have a spiritual advistor get in the way of that. And that is that. And Mormons do believe under the right circumstance, when it affect the mothers life and health, its prudent to even have an abortion. Now we can argue, but that is just a waste of time. I rather just vote as a nation on that one, and in the end keep prying eyes away from private lives.
So much of this is opinion, doctors have many different ideas on what medicine is. That is why there are so many different branches of it, and different ethics behind everything. But, when Obama said he would not prosecute, that is a validation of the exectation of the law of the land. Now congress has not passed the resolution yet, but that is all political. Maybe this will be the issue that swings in the next Democrat next election cycle I dont know.
"Moral & Ethical - can you tell your Bishop and Stake President that you follow the Word of Wisdom and perform temple (and priesthood) ordinances worthily?"
Yes, you can. Because in the end what you take as Medicine is none of their business when it comes to that, as long as you under a doctors care. Bottom line is, Marijuana is too political and the church should stay out of it!!! Now that said, I don't smoke marijuana, I am not incurrably ill!!!!
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I hate to tell you all this. but you are still breaking the law even if you state allows medical marijuana. It still against federal law witch for those who don't understand even if your state allows it its still illegal to smoke grow or use in anyway in the united states . your braking a commandment on following the law of the land. if your state allows it and you use it you supporting illegal activity and on top of that there is no way you can go through the temple interview truthfully. SORRY
You are wrong, it has to be against state and federal law to be illegal. A new law was set in. So its not illegal if its not against the state. Its a requrement for it to be against both. Law is law, your interpretation is invalid.
Thing I don't like is, if the Church goes against the population it will just make people further Attack Mormonism, both states side by side to me legalized marijuana, now there is a huge push here in my state, and people are saying mormonism is why they wont legalize it. I don't think that is why, but you never know.
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When it comes to your health, you just have to make up your own mind no religion can do it for you. Infact religion is supposed to be there for support. I am facing a similar issue in my state, which is Idaho. The Mormon church seems to take political issues into their concern, when they really should not, being that there should be a separation of church and state. Maybe someday we make the church pay taxes, and then they can gripe to the state all they want. But until then I guess I will have to stay at odds with the politics of my church.
You should listen to your doctor. Doctors are highly educated, and are more educated, they trump over any spiritual advisor you may have. In fact any one that comes between you and your doctor through the church or otherwise, you should really see an attorney about that, to make sure they know thier real role in your health concerns. Basically, if they are not a doctor, they should be quiet. Your church can't go against the grain of state law, cause the bible says you can't. "Obey the law of the land" and that goes for them double.
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