JonboySquarepants
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nope. just dumb.
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i know what you put there was/is supposed to be a joke, but some people take it seriously. :) my friend wrote to me while on his mission trying to explain that the Father and Jesus have physical bodies. along with the letter he sent a tape because it was easier to say it all rather than write it. at one point, his companion gets on and i hear him explaining that the Father HAS to have a physical body because the Bible says Jesus sits on the right hand of God. how could the Father not have a body if the Bible says Jesus is/was sitting on His hand? lol your joke reminded me of that story.
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i guess we just see it two different ways. Jesus said it is adultery and the bom teaches that 'Men are judged by their thoughts.' agree to disagree then?
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to quote what someone already put in an earlier post:
"Jesus taught (Matt 5:28)
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart
Alma 12:14 says:
14 For our words will condemn us, yea, all our works will condemn us; we shall not be found spotless; and our thoughts will also condemn us; and in this awful state we shall not dare to look up to our God; and we would fain be glad if we could command the rocks and the mountains to fall upon us to chide us from his presence. "
the friend is only saying what the scriptures are teaching. are the scriptures wrong?
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i always get confused when people say that they can do stuff after this life. marriage being the case here; baptism, repentance and sealings being examples of other conversations. i get confused because the book of mormon teaches that we have to use this life to prepare for the next. alma 34:33 says:
"...I beseech of you that ye do not procrastinate the day of your repentance until the end; for after this day of life, which is given us to prepare for eternity, behold, if we do not improve our time while in this life, then cometh the night of darkness wherein there can be no labor performed."
also, isn't the new and everlasting covenant of marriage polygamy? doesn't d and c 132 teach that?
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random question just poppped into my mind. i remember hearing/reading something a while back that said that eve was one of adam's(miochael's) wives in the premortal existence. is that true? if it is, was there marriage before this world?
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i think an important thing to point out about this also is when it says "pure wine of the grape of the vine"; it doesn't say juice, it says wine. in j smith's time, they knew the difference.
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i may very well be reading this wrong, but this is how i'm reading it.
"And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be used [but] only in times of winter, or of cold, or famine."
that comma stands out to me as a break in the sentence. so i'm seeing it as being in 2 parts. 1) not to eat it and 2) exceptions for when it is ok to eat it. that's how i'm interpreting the word 'sparingly'.
again, just my understanding :)
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if it's what you believe, then do it. if they get offended, ask them why they are offended. just use that time to fast and pray about whether or not what you are doing is right. it's not like you're forcing them to do the same as you.
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i think you are putting in bold the wrong words. look at the end of the verse before that one. "...nevertheless they are to be used sparingly;...". the next verse can be broken into two parts. first, God doesn't want us to eat meat "And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be used,..."; second part is telling us that meat should be eaten "only in times of winter, or of cold, or famine."
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wow, congrats. good luck with that!
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Other truths were also removed that I cannot name at this time.
because you don't know or because you don't want to share them?
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thanks pam!
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you said the book of mormon is not full or errors. do you think it has any? if so, what are they?
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but since we don't generally have that problem today, should we be eating meat at all?
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What happened to the Bible is some truths have been removed.
what truths were taken out?
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ok. thanks.
another side note about this AoF, i giggle when i think to myself as to how i've always thought of it;
"we believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the book of mormon to be the word of God as far as it is printed correctly."
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yes, that is what i'm asking. being more specific though, i'm asking if God gave j smith the words exactly as the authors wrote them, even if the authors were in error. so, not exactly God making the error, just passing it along to j smith.
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As you read the Bofm, the authors themselves acknowledge the weakness in the record or their weakness it writing it. I think there is difference between having an error and being "full" of errors though.
i see what you mean, and i made a poor choice of words. but it was by the power of God that j smith translated the plates through the methods i already stated. speculative question though, do you think God would maked words appear in the hat to j smith that were not true or were in error?
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The "meat thing" is an interesting question.O43
i may just be poking at this one, but i don't see how it could be that interesting. doesn't it say exactly what should be understood about meat? that it should be eaten sparingly? how does it define sparingly? "...only in times of winter, or of cold, or famine." D and C 89:13. are we/you all eating it ONLY in times or winter, or cold, or famine?
just a side note about how i understand 'of winter, or of cold', i think that's history. back in the 1800's it was hard to grow crops in the winter or during cold spells, so once the food storages were empty, eating meat was ok for survival. just my thoughts.
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this article of faith sometimes makes me wonder if the book of mormon is without error. i remember reading quotes about people saying it is the 'most correct book' on the earth, but is that the same as it being without error? can the Word of God be full of errors?
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well, i've read the talk. he says he only has one wife and that he can prove the accusers wrong, or something along those lines. yet, i've seen the records showing his many wives. i guess i just don't understand why he would say he only had one when he had more than one.
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i seem to remember a talk given by j smith where he said he only had one wife - emma. if he only had one wife, how could he have had 30+?
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By proxy.
how does that work? does the church just pick a male and female randomly and marry them? i don't think i've ever heard this before. i've heard that marriages will be done during the millenium, but now this. it's interesting.
Are there greater Gods out there.
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joseph smith taught that God was not always a God and that He had to learn from his God. whether the church is true or not, i'm staying away from that question. :)i'm only saying that as far as this question goes, joseph smith taught that God the Father was not always a God.