Deeper

Hey guys thanks for answering my questions so far, just a few other that maybe you can help me understand. I know that the LDS believe God is not spirit, correct? If it's correct I will continue. If God is man or has flesh rather, then wouldn't it contradict the teachings of Christ? Jesus says in John 4:24: "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.” Jesus also said in LUke 24:39: "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see Me have."

oh ok, thanks guys :)

When you pray to Heavenly Father, do you refer to Adam? I am not sure and I just want to know. So, please don't think I am going to try and "Disprove" you. I only want to know what you guys believe.

Yes that was the cause of Lucifer's fall. They will tell you a little different. However, the Bible was written before the book of Mormon, so I think the Bible's Got it right. But the thing that trips me out, however, is you teach that you can become a god (i've members from the LDS visit my house and answer my questions) and Lucifer taught the same thing.

Ok, I will reply to them: Your Teachers say this: We say it was Jesus Christ who was married, to be brought into the relation whereby he could see his seed, before he was crucified (President Orson Hyde, Oct. 6, 1854, Journal of Discourses, 2:82 [Vol 2, page 82]). Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he began children. All that I have to say in reply to that charge is this--they worship a Savior that is too pure and holy to fulfil the commands of his Father. I worship one that is just pure and holy enough to "fulfil all righteousness;' no only the righteous law of baptism, but the still more righteous and important law "to multiply and replenish the earth." Startle not at this! for even the Father himself honored that law by coming down to Mary, without a natural body, and begetting a son; and if Jesus begat children, he only "did that which he had seen his Father do." (President Orson Hyde, March l8, l855; Journal of Discourses, 2:2l0) It will be borne in mind that once on a time, there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and on a careful reading of that transaction, it will be discovered that no less a person than Jesus Christ was married on that occasion. If he was never married, his intimacy with Mary and Martha, and the other Mary also whom Jesus loved, must have been highly unbecoming and improper to say the best of it. (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, 4:259) Your Teachers say this: Lewis has explained: "The command Be Ye perfect is not idealistic gas. Nor is it a command to do the impossible. He is going to make us into creatures that can obey that command. He said (in the Bible) that we were 'gods' and He is going to make good his words. If we let Him-for we can prevent Him, if we choose-He will make the feeblest and filthiest of us into a god or goddess, dazzling, radiant, immortal creature, pulsating all through with such energy and joy and wisdom and love as we cannot now imagine, a bright stainless mirror which reflects back to God perfectly (though, of course, on a smaller scale) His own boundless power and delight and goodness. The process will be long and in parts very painful; but that is what we are in for. Nothing less. He meant what He said. You've completely misinterpreted that. Co heirs mean co heirs of eternal life in heaven. we become co heirs of the heavenly realm, heaven. God is the ONLY GOD there will ever be. you can't become your own God. you are doing what Satan did when he said "I will become like the Most High" you believe the same. which is a shock. lolz, well then God's a liar isn't He? no wrong. again you misinterpreted the scriptures just like Joseph Smith did. 6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. 8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations. We have here, I. Earthly gods abased and brought down, Psalms 82:6,7. The dignity of their character is acknowledged (Psalms 82:6): I have said, You are gods. They have been honoured with the name and title of gods. God himself called them so in the statute against treasonable words Exodus 22:28, Thou shalt not revile the gods. And, if they have this style from the fountain of honour, who can dispute it? But what is man, that he should be thus magnified? He called them gods because unto them the word of God came, so our Saviour expounds it (John 10:35); they had a commission from God, and were delegated and appointed by him to be the shields of the earth, the conservators of the public peace, and revengers to execute wrath upon those that disturb it, Romans 13:4. All of them are in this sense children of the Most High. God has put some of his honour upon them, and employs them in his providential government of the world, as David made his sons chief rulers. Or, "Because I said, You are gods, you have carried the honour further than was intended and have imagined yourselves to be the children of the Most High," as the king of Babylon (Isaiah 14:14), I will be like the Most High, and the king of Tyre (Ezekiel 28:2), Thou hast set thy heart as the heart of God. It is a hard thing for men to have so much honour put upon them by the hand of God, and so much honour paid them, as ought to be by the children of men, and not to be proud of it and puffed up with it, and so to think of themselves above what is meet. But here follows a mortifying consideration: You shall die like men. This may be taken either, 1. As the punishment of bad magistrates, such as judged unjustly, and by their misrule put the foundations of the earth out of course. God will reckon with them, and will cut them off in the midst of their pomp and prosperity; they shall die like other wicked men, and fall like one of the heathen princes (and their being Israelites shall not secure them anymore than their being judges) or like one of the angels that sinned, or like one of the giants of the old world. Compare this with that which Elihu observed concerning the mighty oppressors in his time. Job 34:26, He striketh them as wicked men in the open sight of others. Let those that abuse their power know that God will take both it and their lives from them; for wherein they deal proudly he will show himself above them. Or, 2. As the period of the glory of all magistrates in this world. Let them not be puffed up with their honour nor neglect their work, but let the consideration of their mortality be both mortifying to their pride and quickening to their duty. "You are called gods, but you have no patent for immortality; you shall die like men, like common men; and like one of them, you, O princes! shall fall." Note, Kings and princes, all the judges of the earth, though they are gods to us, are men to God, and shall die like men, and all their honour shall be laid in the dust. Mors sceptra ligonibus æquat--Death mingles sceptres with spades. mm, the Bible does not say different levels at all. You added that in. Yes the NT talks of Mansions, not other levels of Heaven, but homes in Heaven...one Heaven. Go read the Geneva Bible, you'd be surprised. Sure no I understand :) however, the Bible says that if you come teaching another Jesus or that if one comes preaching another Jesus which was not preached in the Word, or another gospel that was not given by them, they are false prophets... You put up with this doctrine because it sounds good. oh you can become a god, join us. "I've prayed about it and God told me the LDS is the truth and the Book of Mormon is the Truth" well I've prayed about it to, and God told me and shown me the Book of Mormon is false, teaches a false doctrine, and teaches another Jesus...so I hope you hear me on this, but your doctrine is false completely.

wait so I can't challenge your faith? But you say it's real so prove me wrong. If I am proven wrong, I would switch religions...however here's how I know you can't become a god: Isaiah 45:5, "I am the Lord, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God...." You can't become a god. this isn't a matter of semantics, this is reality. There is one heaven and there is one hell. Listen I fear for your lives. I am not messing around. the scriptures say plainly not to preach another Jesus or else they are false prophets and here you teach that Jesus was married and that you can ascend and be like the most High God. That scripture above disproves that whole doctrinal flaw. Please, prove me wrong. I mean seriously If I am wrong, then there is a way to prove that I am wrong through the scriptures, but if you are wrong then there is a way to prove through the scriptures that your wrong...Isaiah shows your wrong in the aspect of becoming a god, Jesus Himself disproves that....Please, I beg you prove me wrong and I will convert....but if I prove you wrong, I would hope you would convert to the truth, which is absent, set apart, from that of the Book of Mormon.

wow I can't believe that you deleted my post with all the evidence proving that mormonism is not of God. I would like you to send me the deleted message please thanks :)

That makes two of us! welcome :)

I was just wondering because I am not all to sure, after the Celestial Heaven, is it then that we become a God? I have heard a few different things and am not sure... Thanks In Him, Deep

Hello everyone, my name is Deeper, or Deep :) I am glad to be here. I do have a lot of questions that I would like answered so maybe I'll get to know you guys better and have a great time here. In Him, Deep