Justice Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 Makes it pretty clear that it's part of the Gospel, eh bytebear? Thank you for sharing.
JohnnyRudick Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 Hey Heavenshound - I see you're identifying yourself as being from the UK. You wouldn't happen to be a part of the Reachout Trust countercult ministry, would you? Your tactics remind me of some of them.LMHeavenshound is no where to be seen:oI feel like we were the victims of a hit an run:p Bro. Rudick
HeavensHound Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Posted June 28, 2009 I believe in being baptized and I believe in Jesus Christ I believe baptism is similiar to marriage in its form of commitment, testimony and witnesses: · "Would you feel comfortable marrying someone who wanted to keep the marriage a secret? Neither does God. It's one thing to say in the privacy of your own heart that you are a sinner in need of a Savior. But it's quite another to walk out of the shadows and stand before family, friends, and colleagues to state publicly that Christ is your forgiver and master. This step raises the ante. Jesus commanded all His followers to prove it, to make the pledge, by public demonstration in baptism. In the New Testament, baptism was no casual custom, no ho-hum ritual. Baptism was, and is, 'a pledge made to God from a good conscience' --- 1 Peter 3:21, The Jerusalem Bible" (Max Lucado, Baptism: The Demonstration of Devotion, p. 3). · "Remove your shoes, bow your head, and bend your knees: this is a holy event. Baptism is not to be taken lightly. The event is a willing plunge of the body and soul into the promise and power of Christ. The ritual of washing signifies our admission that apart from Christ we are dirty, but in Christ we are pure. The ritual of burial signifies that we are willing to die to sin and self and that we can be made alive again because of Him. Baptism effectively seals our salvation, uniting us to Him and His body. Christ's death becomes my death. Christ's resurrection becomes my resurrection" (ibid, p. 5). God be prasied that we have been given such a "bold, daring and visible manner in which to demonstrate our faith in God"(reflection 65)
HeavensHound Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Posted June 28, 2009 I get such a kick when people behave unethically while trying to preach the gospel.Sorry about that. My mistake. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!
AnthonyB Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) HH, I agree fully with your last post (I have a "normative" view of baptism for remission of sins) but my question still stands, which one of your two baptisms is the "one baptism" of Eph 4:5? Edited June 28, 2009 by AnthonyB
HeavensHound Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Posted June 28, 2009 HH,I agree fully with your last post (I have a "normative" view of baptism for remission of sins) but my question still stands, which one of your two baptisms is the "one baptism" of Eph 4:5?All of them. There is only one body. It is to be hid in Christ - not any one organization.
HeavensHound Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Posted June 28, 2009 The body of Jesus Christ is all over the world and in many different orgainizations, denominations and don't forget the underground church! IMHO, it would be pride and arrogance to believe "we" are the only ones who are doing it right or that follow God in our baptisms and beliefs.
JohnnyRudick Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) All of them. There is only one body. It is to be hid in Christ - not any one organization.I will stand with only your last two posts. (with a caveat on part of the last thing. . .)(MY!, I see two more_ have problems with those also. sigh)But no where in these posts show that Jesus' command to be "water" baptized to show. . .Can't ignore it.It still is required.Either in this world, or in the next for all believers.We are required to show the "Church" by Baptism.Can't get away from it.Bro. Rudick Edited June 29, 2009 by JohnnyRudick Afterthought;)
HeavensHound Posted June 29, 2009 Author Report Posted June 29, 2009 I will stand with only your last two posts. (with a caveat on part of the last thing. . .)(MY!, I see two more_ have problems with those also. sigh)But no where in these posts show that Jesus' command to be "water" baptized to show. . .Can't ignore it.It still is required.Either in this world, or in the next for all believers.We are required to show the "Church" by Baptism.Can't get away from it.Bro. RudickI wouldn't want to get away baptism. It is my response to the gospel! I wouldn't make any more of it than that. To do so, is to miss the spirit of it.My focus is not on my obedience; it is on Jesus Christ! He is the only one who can finish what he started in me, Praise BE!
JohnnyRudick Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 I wouldn't want to get away baptism. It is my response to the gospel! I wouldn't make any more of it than that. To do so, is to miss the spirit of it.My focus is not on my obedience; it is on Jesus Christ! He is the only one who can finish what he started in me, Praise BE!That is why God will not do away with it either.And if you miss your chance to testify to the Church" what God has done for you and the road you are now vowing to walk;In the midst of a marvelous account of the picture of the resurrection and the picture of Baptism Paul asks1 Corinthians 15:29 Else what shall they do which are baptizedfor the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they thenbaptized for the dead?Can't get around Baptism.You wouldn't do away with it.And neither would God.Bro. Rudick
john doe Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 This thread is closed. The OP has previously been banned under another username.
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