Eternal Atonement?

[MaMeeshkaMow]

I know the atonement is eternal in that it can take affect during our soul's existence. Question on this. If we get a chance to be like Heavenly Father and reach peaks of divinity (a long time away!!!), will the atonement that we experience in our lives be the same atonement for the human creations we undertake on the planets we create? Or do you think we would have to go through another "war in heaven", find a Saviour, do the things our Heavenly Parents went through...how eternal is the atonement we know about?

Along with this, would there ever be a time when the Jesus Christ we know be relieved of his role as Saviour (if a new one needed to be appointed)...of course he could never be replaced for us because He's our Saviour forever but what about future creations/generations?

I can't help but ask the next question. In order to become like Heavenly Father, would we have to pass through a Jesus role, to sacrifice ourselves for sin and go through the pain he went through maybe for our Father's created earths? It almost seems unfair we can share all the glories with Heavenly Father without going through what they went through. OR, are we so blessed that we don't need to go through that?

[tubaloth]

will the atonement that we experience in our lives be the same atonement for the human creations we undertake on the planets we create?

No it won't be the same. We go through the Plan of Salvation for our children. Its now their choice to choose the savior not us.

There are a number of other threads on this subject. The biggest one I know of is here

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/20910-atonement-paradox.html#post361760

Along with this, would there ever be a time when the Jesus Christ we know be relieved of his role as Saviour (if a new one needed to be appointed)...of course he could never be replaced for us because He's our Saviour forever but what about future creations/generations?

I doubt it. After one is resurrected that’s kind of it. You have moved past this stage, why would He go back?

I can't help but ask the next question. In order to become like Heavenly Father, would we have to pass through a Jesus role, to sacrifice ourselves for sin and go through the pain he went through maybe for our Father's created earths? It almost seems unfair we can share all the glories with Heavenly Father without going through what they went through. OR, are we so blessed that we don't need to go through that?

The point of this earth life isn't to see who can suffer the most? The point of this earth life is to grow to our full potential. That test is different for each of us. God would be fair if he required the same thing of all of us (Same magnitude). I remember some early church leaders would talk about how each of us have to go through our own Gethsemane. Meaning we all have our own trials that we are going to have to face. We get through it the same way Christ did, turning to God!

[Justice]

I know the atonement is eternal in that it can take affect during our soul's existence. Question on this. If we get a chance to be like Heavenly Father and reach peaks of divinity (a long time away!!!), will the atonement that we experience in our lives be the same atonement for the human creations we undertake on the planets we create? Or do you think we would have to go through another "war in heaven", find a Saviour, do the things our Heavenly Parents went through...how eternal is the atonement we know about?

There has been some discussion on what "eternal" means. Perhaps some study about what it means. Maybe look up "one eternal round," and "from eternity to all eternity" in the on-line scriptures. I believe "eternity" can be equated to one generation from God's eyes.

[/Along with this, would there ever be a time when the Jesus Christ we know be relieved of his role as Saviour (if a new one needed to be appointed)...of course he could never be replaced for us because He's our Saviour forever but what about future creations/generations?

For this eternity Jesus Christ was/is the Savior. In my estimation, that won't change. To me, when I think abouot this, the key is to consider all of Christ's creations in the same breath of what He atoned for. So, He will not atone for anything He did not create, at least in my view.

[/i can't help but ask the next question. In order to become like Heavenly Father, would we have to pass through a Jesus role, to sacrifice ourselves for sin and go through the pain he went through maybe for our Father's created earths? It almost seems unfair we can share all the glories with Heavenly Father without going through what they went through. OR, are we so blessed that we don't need to go through that?

I have seen evidence (or interpretation) both ways. Personally, I do not believe so. I believe we are mortal once. After that we have no need of a mortal body. Some people interpret scriptures to say that we will, but I interpret them differently.

[HEthePrimate]

I tend to think of atonement less in metaphysical terms and more in terms of relationships (human-divine, human-human, and even our relationship with God's other creations). It quite literally means "at-one-ment", and that's something you and I can do every day, in a very practical way. When you argue with someone, but then stop and try to actually understand the other person's point of view, and whether or not you agree, you show love and respect for that person, that's an act of atonement because it brings you closer to being "at one" with each other. From this point of view, "the Atonement" was not only what Jesus did in Gethsemane and on the cross, but what he did all during his life--he showed us how to be at one.

The Hebrew and Greek languages didn't have a word for this exact concept, and neither did English, until William Tyndale invented it. That was a stroke of genius. Here's Wikipedia's explanation of the word's etymology:

The word atonement was invented in the sixteenth century by William Tyndale who recognized that there was not a direct English translation of the biblical Hebraic concept. The word is composed of two parts "at" and "onement" in order to reflect the dual aspect of Christ's sacrifice: the remission of sin and reconciliation of man to God. Tyndale's concept overcome the limitations of the word "reconciliation" whilst incorporating aspects of propitiation and forgiveness.

HEP :)

[rameumptom]

Each new Eternal Round requires a new Creation. Just as the new Creations would have a new head God (us), each one would also require a new Savior, IMO.

[Justice]

I believe we are mortal once. After that we have no need of a mortal body.

I didn't mean this the way it came out, or I forgot part of the sentence. I meant we have no need to gain a mortal body but once.