CatholicGirl

Thank you. I suppose I need to calm down a little. I just didn't come here to have my intelligence picked on. I thought I could have a good discussion. From now on, I guess I'll just talk to my friends when I have a question, because I don't think I'm contributing much by getting into arguments like this one. Thanks to those of you who made being on here worthwhile, such as Vanhin, skippy740 (I think that's his number...) and FlyontheWall. God Bless CG

Well thank you for your opinion. I must be deaf if I have never heard the LDS speak - why would I be here now listening to you? You think that I am not absorbing anything? Thanks for that. I appreciate it. But I live in Mormon Capital. I think I have heard plenty of you speak. I will also be the first to admit that I don't know a huge amount about history. I guess I'm just not intelligent enough for you.

Christ SAID "This is my church". So now are you claiming that he didn't say that? How can that be construed as an opinion? Many people say that the Catholic Church became untrue or whatever, but it is common opinion that it WAS started by Christ. You are arguing your own religion with this, because I thought that the LDS believe that Christ started the Church, but then the Church fell away. (Maybe I have been told wrong. At this point I'm not sure what to believe, because I have heard very different answers from my friends and this forum.)

I am feeling very frustrated. Joseph Smith was a human being. Not divine, in other words. When I said that, I was talking to someone who said that the Catholic Church was started by a council of men, and so I reminded him of who started the LDS church. Sure, he was instructed. Okay, sure. That's your belief. But Snow was asking me to give evidence that he's a man...

What are you trying to say? I have already been informed by others that you ALSO believe that Joseph Smith was a man. A prophet, but a MAN. And if you're asking me to prove to you that men are fallible... what evidence are you asking for? Or are you just looking for a debate? Some people here have been really really kind to me and have taught me what the LDS believe in, and some seem to either think that I am degrading them in some way, form or fashion... I don't know. I honestly can't understand what you want me to prove to you.

My only thing with this, or at least the first two paragraphs that I've quoted, is all completely new to me. That's why talking about the BoM is hard for me to talk about, really. I can't really relate to it. I've never even heard of that, so I don't really know what to make of it. It's interesting though, and I will be the first to admit that I have LOADS to learn. Thanks for typing out all these for me. I appreciate it.:)

You're welcome. Thanks for sharing this with me. This is exactly what I came here looking for. Wait, so that what you quoted before, the BOM 4-16 earlier, what time period was that at? Certainly not in the B.C., right? So now I know that you believe how he is one with the Father, but not why. Why is he only the same in will, doctrine and purpose, but not substance? So, in conclusion, the LDS believe that the Father was working through Jesus when he performed all his miracles, correct? Oh, and does the LDS faith concentrate more on the bible or on the BoM, or does it concentrate on both equally?

I agree with your statements. I think we're agreed on this topic.

That is interesting. About when did it take place? (As in, the year?) One thing confused me though: the LDS believe that the Lord, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are all seperate beings, but in passage 14 He says "I am the Father and the Son". And not exactly relevant, but I'll ask my question anyways. Why do they call him the "brother of Jared"? Doesn't he have a name? I suppose it is unknown or something, right?

Oh, okay. I've been told that the LDS thought Jesus as a mere human, just like us. He is a son of God, and so are you. That's what I've been told.

The thing is, there aren't a lot of us. Most of the people work, or rarely come. My family and a couple others basically run the church. Also I have to travel between 20-30 minutes to get there, so going there more then once or twice a week starts to get to be a lot in both gas and time. One of the families have a travel time of about 45 minutes one way.

Wow. That's pretty awesome.

It's interesting that you would like to do that. I've never really thought it would be my type of thing - if anything I'd like to lead youth ralleys, or Idk, spread the gospel somehow. I love the singing, the talks, everything. I get a great feeling from that.

But yet in many parts of the bible Jesus will say things like "God is better than I am", and that is him speaking as a man. But then when "Doubting" Thomas said "My Lord and my God!" Jesus did not correct him, but instead said "Happy are those who do not see but believe".

My personal opinion is that putting the underscore makes it seem like a swearword. That's just the feeling I get from it, even knowing why it's used.