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  1. Ok get it now, just never made that connection thanks for pin pointing it out
  2. no it's not that I have a "problem" with Joseph Smith Giving us wives, i believe that he'll be there, but that we will be given wives in heaven is what i never understood, because it kind of goes contrary to the response of Jesus, i understood (from this thread) that (basically) we will take our wives in heaven with us (so technically we won't marry them in heaven) but if we are given wives in heaven then that doesn't fit in, from my understanding anyways. sorry if you already covered that, thanks for your patience
  3. Yep sorry it's Herber, Just_A_Guy , thanks for replying :) it's in the Journal Of Discourses, vol. 4, page 209 the link: Journal of Discourses/Volume 4/The Presidency, etc. - Wikisource. this is what it says: Supposing that I have a wife or a dozen of them, and she should say, "You cannot be exalted without me," and suppose they all should say so, what of that? They never will affect my salvation one particle. Whose salvation will they affect? Their own. They have got to live their religion, serve their God, and do right, as well as myself. Suppose that I lose the whole of them before I go into the spirit world, but that I have been a good, faithful man all the days of my life, and lived my religion, and had favour with God, and was kind to them, do you think I will be destitute there? No, the Lord says there are more there than there are here. They have been increasing there; they increase there a great deal faster than we do here, because there is no obstruction. They do not call upon the doctors to kill their offspring; there are no doctors there, that is, if they are there, their occupation is changed, which proves that they are not there, because they have ceased to be doctors. In this world very many of the doctors are studying to diminish the human family. In the spirit world there is an increase of males and females, there are millions of them, and if I am faithful all the time, and continue right along with brother Brigham, we will go to brother Joseph and say, "Here we are brother Joseph; we are here ourselves are we not, with none of the property we possessed in our probationary state, not even the rings on our fingers?" He will say to us, "Come along, my boys, we will give you a good suit of clothes. Where are your wives?" "They are back yonder; they would not follow us." "Never mind," says Joseph, "here are thousands, have all you want." Perhaps some do not believe that, but I am just simple enough to believe it. so yeah, basically it says that if we were to be married (or unmarried i guess...) but our wives were not to follow us into heaven then Joseph Smith would give us a thousand wives (i think he was saying as many as we would want, whether 10 or a million). any clues anyone? God bless
  4. I'm going to presume that you're asking about faithful latter-day saints who die without the opportunity to marry but nevertheless have the promise of exaltation with an eternal companion (as opposed to making an impertinent accusation about Mormons harboring secret hopes of polygamous afterlives). in reply to you Just_A_Guy of course i wasn't accusing Mormons of anything, just trying to understand. actually i was talking about when Herbert C.kimball (member of The first Presidency) said that Joseph Smith would give us thousands of wives if we were to get to celestial heaven without wives. Something that was asked me when I was sharing the truth to an obviously well prepared catholic.
  5. but what about the wives that would be given to us after we die, doesn't that count as getting married in heaven?