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Okay, just checking.

Makes sense. One question: I understand feeling the trinity is an odd concept. However, why not choose the explanation that there is one god with different manifestations to more thoroughly explain himself, rather than the route of believing there are three gods central to the christian religion? I'm not saying one belief is superior exactly; actually curious whether you think whether the former or latter is preferable and why.

Sounds fair. Is it that we know Christ is right or have faith that he is true? Or do we increase in knowledge, but it never becomes perfect (my impression from Alma 32)?

Wherever you like or nowhere. I don't have a pre-arranged goal though. Just seem like legitimate questions. Don't feel picked on: I could ask similar sorts of questions to non-LDS.

The concept of moving forward I take as a metaphor for striving for "the good." Can you explain in your own words what is good and why? I know I may ask this question at the risk of starting to sound like Pilate.

I would assume by the volume of intervening scripture (without reading it, which I will) that you are being ironic? Does that group of just a few nuts include the leadership of the LDS faith?

Is "recursive" a useful word to apply to faith, then?

General follow-up: Is faith always future-oriented?

You said "more than spiritual," which implies to me that I had limited the description of the rewards of which we have been speaking too greatly: apparently, you find that word does not completely describe your beliefs concerning, I assume, the afterlife. Please clarify this for me.

Okay, to put it succinctly, is faith acting out of less than perfect knowledge (together with the belief that there is at least one with perfect knowledge who has assured you that this is the best course of action etc.)? Then, what type of knowledge do you mean? What precisely do you mean by this word?

Cool... next question: Could you elaborate on this? What do you mean by "works for me" and what are "positive changes" (Are there any negatives?) Pretend I am from Mars and don't know the first thing about human idioms if you like! Thanks!! You are very generous with your enthusiasm!

I shouldn't have limited it in that way. By "more than spiritual" do you mean physical, but other-worldly or something?

hee, .... I dunno, they both might sound bad. I'm interested in the ideas and concepts of LDS members.

Cool, thanks. So... Has your mom changed her mind?

Sure!

I meant, is it widespread or part-and-parcel to believe in Luciferians? Never heard of them -- and does everybody think they are in positions of power, these conscious L worshipers?

Doesn't sound very bad.

Hi and... That's probably the first time I've seen those put together! (But, I have heard about the jello.) Thanks for the welcome! I have questions for you based on what you said, but perhaps we can take them up in another thread.

It's an interesting idea: How else could one be motivated if it is not by incentive or disincentive or simply abjectly? I am not trying to criticize you, only get clarification. This might be an opportunity for you to shine.

Then, I will put you down as agreeing with the notion I posed... ?

I've never read them, but I assume I can find them on the web. So what is the answer though? I will look for myself, but what do you think?

This sounds like what I mean: god tells us how to get those things, albeit spiritual things. You mean this literally? Why do we have two words that often appear juxtaposed yet mean the same thing? Faith sounds like a process of "giving the spirit a try" in these verses, the ultimate end of which is some spiritual reward. Do you agree? Thanks

I hope the left hand of god isn't used for what people used it for in the olden days, i.e., why people made it customary to shake with the right hand.

Is faith basically a contract with god? -- he asks us to do particular things and, in the end, we will be paid our dividend? I am struck by the relevancy of this question after reading Alma 32.

Who do you mean?