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This thread is not intended to figure out sealing cancellation vs. clearance. I truly understand them. My wife and I have been in three different wards over the past 2 1/2 years. We both were sealed in the temple to our exes for ten years. Children involved. Neither of or exes are active and were the guilty party in adultery. Nonetheless. We have attempted over the past few years to get three bishops in three wards to fil out the paperwork to give to the stake president. They have my wife's ex husband permission. My ex write her letter a year and a half ago. When we move to a new ward, we meet the bishop, he does an interview, says he will write a letter and necessary paperwork to the stake president in favor of our sealing. I just asked our current bishop after 2 months since our interview and he said he just hadn't got around to it. This is the 3rd bishop who had done this exact same thing. All this to ask...do bishops get adequate training on how to deal with the sealing process for remarried couples? Both a new, midterm and bishop for five years voiced to me that they we unclear as what to do and would talk to the stake president. I feel that none of the bishops truly grasp the desire and the gravity of importance of the need for a couple to be sealed. Its frustrating sitting with my wife in the celestial room but can't be sealed to her. Feels more like a training and bureauocracy issue. Two and a half years and three bishops is a lot of time and patience. Does any one know why this is such a struggle? Its definitely a systemic misunderstanding and lack of education on the process by bishops in general. Any insight would help. Thanks

My wife and I were disfellowshipped last year at this time. We didn't even know each other at the time. We saw our bishops individually and then met online. We were married last October and moved out of state and couldn't be happier. We have daughters and stepdaughters. We have been faithful church goers, tithe payers, and read scriptures as a family and have regular family home evenings and service projects. since our disfellowshipment. My wife and I met with our bishop 4 or 5 months ago. He kept getting leaders inquiring about us because they want us in callings and leadership positions. He told us that the 1 year disfellowshipment recommendation was a guideline and at the bishop's discretion. He told us that it would be soon that we'd get back our fellowship status. Well, after bugging him every other week for the past 4 months and meeting with him, nothing every happened. We got discouraged. We then just got a new bishop one month ago. We made an appointment to see him. He was disappointed that our bishop's court hadn't happened already and that it should have been taken care of. Well, that was going on a month ago and still NOTHING. It's been a year. Our daughter is turning 8 in 3 weeks and has asked me to baptize her. The bishop is aware but as with the other bishop, nothing is being done. What should I do now? I don't want to bug them, but we need to move forward spiritually and seem to be hitting a road block. Any advice?

I just don't understand the entire 9 pages of discussion. LatteLady, if you understand that our Heavenly Father is our literal spiritual Father; and that He sent His son to do the will of His Father; and that Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit act as a Godhead with one purpose, to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man, then do labels matter? When you pray at night, you pray to your Father in heaven through the name of jesus Christ. "No one cometh unto the Father but by me." So does it really matter in your personal life what the Lord thinks and why he did something. The important thing is to live his commandments and increase your relationship with Him through prayer and scripture study. All the rest of this theistic discussion really is pointeless in our individual worship. God is our Father. End of story. We could never possibly understand his ways. We should stop trying and start living. Contention is of the devil

After reading all of these posts, 11 pages worth, I see quite a large misunderstanding about the sealing ordinance of marriage. Eternal marriage only becomes effective and "sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise" after a life of faithful and loving commitment to your spouse and the Lord. I see people make a big mistake. The marriage sealing is an ordinance like baptism. You need that ordinance to be worthy to enter into the Celestial Kingdom. It gives you a key to unlock one of the doors to the Celestial Kingdom. IT IS AN INDIVIDUAL ORDINANCE THAT TWO PEOPLE PERFORM TOGETHER. That is why even though a couple may divorce, the sealing is left in place usually so that either party may lay claim to that ordinance in the future as their worthiness allows. THE BIG MISTAKE: People equate that the sealing ordinance means that a divorced party will remain "eternally married" in the eternities. NOT TRUE!! Both parties may lay claim to that ordinance INDIVIDUALLY depending on their righteousness. A marriage sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise AFTER a lifelong commitment to your spouse and the Lord is the only MARRIAGE that is sealed for time and all eternity by using that sealing ordinance as the key to unlock that door. For those of us who have been through divorce, if you are living a righteous life, you have the key or the "sealing ordinance" necessary. The Lord will help you find another spouse to be sealed with. Once you are divorced, it is entirely up to YOU what you choose to do with that sealing ordinance key. Just like after baptism, you can go inactive or stay faithful, but the ordinance is performed. Onle the Lord can judge if you have lived worthy to use those keys. Your ex-spouses use of her keys is irrelevant to your use of the keys. Those keys don't even belong on the same key chain after divorce. Does that help anyone?