Sethin09

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  1. Would you rather I use my unit insignia? Sorry for the misogyny statement, I just dislike the slant often given in religious texts concerning women
  2. Since it's been established by the previous poster that LDS doctrine is not monotheistic then the precepts of monotheistic existence does not apply to those of that faith. One might argue that, like cultures that have morays different from one another, other gods' creations may follow different lines of acceptability thus creating this god's creation's concept of evil. Saying that a creator creating something to struggle against is faulty seems a bit droll. In Christianity did god not create satan? King and governments have been known to fund, create, or covertly promote agencies that act against itself. A person working on a car might deliberately harm the vehicle if there is something to gain from the maladjustment (a service station seeing a return customer, the worker of the car wants to see the pretty girl at the service station, etc). If minor destruction leads to greater final product (vis-a-vis to teach a lesson, weed out the unfaithful, or other ideas already posted) then it is not only entirely probable that a god would make something to combat, but might simply be the only way to necessitate the end result.
  3. Saying that such things as "the fall of Adam" are part of some underlying plan indicates that an omnipotent god is not only capable of evil, but promotes its existence. With such a plan in place, small ripples aside, predetermined good and evil people shall exist no matter what and these evil people are, according to the plan, going to whatever evil place exists by default. It's a bit like punishing Armless Billy for not raising his hand before speaking so the rest of the class knows to raise their hand. Along similar lines, saying 'evil is never god's fault' is a bit ludicrous in the context of a monotheistic universe. There are three assumptions that monotheism is based on: there is but one god, this god is all powerful, this one god created everything. By definition of these assumptions, any monotheist must come to terms that not only has this god created evil, but has done so willingly and with forethought. There cannot be laws that a monotheistic god must obey, it negates the principle of being omnipotent. Also the mere suggestion that there are overriding laws shakes the theory that there is more than one god, for who would have made such laws (nothing is before god) and would enforce said law (there is but one god). Making the precept that evil is "absence of god" again breaks the mold of monotheism. If one god, as there must be only one, created everything then everything is of the one god. Either one god created everything, either directly or indirectly via pre-constructed direct means, thus everything is both tangibly and in the presence of god, or was created spontaneously.
  4. If contemporary Christianity is be believed evil existed long before humanity existed if the premise that angels rebelled and fought one another in heaven. Whilst the specific rebellion may not necessarily be perceived as evil one might postulate that if 'god is good' then 'anything against god is evil' (reinforced by the statement 'evil is the absence of god' mentioned earlier). If the purpose for all this, physical/mortal existence, is simply to know what existence would be like without a god, as suggested earlier, then why would said god impart his existence into the physical realm? If the exercise (physical/mortal existence) was for a person (concept of an eternal conscious) to 'live without god' then there would be no holy writ, prophets, miracles, portence, burning bushes, and waffles with the virgin mary's face popping up. It would be a bit like having an experiment to see what dogs would do if there were no humans around and having the scientists pop in every now and then to give the mongrels a scratch on the ear.
  5. Another, simple for some complicated for those brought up in a monotheistic mindset, idea is one of Duality. One entity controls that which is evil and another that which is good. In my faith there is a god that created the physical/mortal world and another, pure god that embodies good virtues and the soul. Christianity tries to do a similar job with their aspect of a god and his lesser counterpart satan, but falls short because the god is supposed to be completely omnipotent thus allowing something 'evil' like satan to exist is at the very least inane. Another problem with the Christian experience is lopping everything into 'free will' or 'agency' which does wonder for murderers and burglars but falls short in the realms of locusts and guinea worms. This predicament is further hampered by concepts like predestination, predetermination, 'everybody goes to heaven,' and other divine plans. If a person's actions or life has been predetermined, even in the most slight of contexts, then the presiding god would know of such 'evil' outcomes and continue to let such outcomes occur. This means either 1. god is uncaring, 2. god is not omnipotent, or 3. god uses some people as examples. A final thought has more of a metaphysical than theological base: good and evil are simply fluid, complementary concepts. The old adage 'Yin without Yang' and 'there can be no good without evil' apply here. Specifically, the concepts of 'good' and 'evil' are fluid and based on morays, ethics, and taboos. The Problem of Evil exists, has always existed, and will most likely always exist, unfortunately.