Helen Mar Kimball

Getting married makes your car insurance go down. You mean people get married for reasons other than to lower their car insurance? Wait, what?

Some day, the kids will find out that it was indeed an Urban Legend. Then, some of the kids will be over on That Message Board That We Do Not Discuss saying, "My leaders lied to me so I left." And it will use up Eric & Susan's bandwidth & we won't have room to make fun of BYU football.

Some things that are useful are not very true.

Maybe Brian was not a high school student. Maybe he was a war hero or a major league baseball player?

Gambling is a tax on people who are bad at math.

>>While Joseph Smith may have mentioned setting the slaves free toward the end of his life, he was basically a racist. Marvin Hill, who teaches history at Brigham Young University, agrees in this interesting comment:Even Joseph's "calling for the end of slavery by 1850" in his Presidential campaign is not so liberal as Brodie supposes.... Joseph Smith was, therefore, to some degree a racist, a segregationist, a colonizer, and only incidentally a supporter of abolition. He had some elements of liberalism in his thinking, but these had definite limits. His record ... is marked by ambiguity (Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Autumn 1970, p.99).<<

Fixed your post.

If my favorite football team had been shut out, for the first time since 1975, on its home field, by its archrival, who won the conference championship and a bowl bid by doing so; I'd be depressed, too.

Where's the love for the Tanners. "As far as LDS history goes, there's no one out there who has the documents mastered as they do," said Peterson, chairman of the Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies at BYU. "They occasionally have forced us (LDS Church defenders) to sharpen a line of reasoning or come up with a line of reasoning."

And then there's Scott Pollard. He hasn't done much this season.

The Deseret News Church Section for July 11, 1970, told of an interesting case: "Mr. and Mrs. John Lono Pea are an amazing couple....he was set apart as genealogy secretary. "'I found out through my family telling me and in genealogy work that a grandparent was an offspring of one of the Negroes who mirated to Hawaii in 1820, through the slave trade. "'I have a sure testimony that what the Lord has said regarding the priesthood is true. I sent my genealogy to the First Presidency so there would be no chance of my getting the priesthood through any means except when the Lord wills it. "'I don't want to offend God by trying to have it because someone through the goodness of their heart, wants me to have it....'" Unless there is another man in Hawaii with the name "John L. Pea there is reason to believe that Mr. Pea was mistakenly ordained to the priesthood and performed baptisms and other ordinances before his ancestry was discovered. The following is from a Council meeting held Oct.29,1936: "Letter read from President W. Francis Bailey of the Hawaiian Mission stating that Brother William Pakale, a priest, and Brother John L.Pea, who have recently been discovered to be one-eighth negro, have heretofore officiated in performing some baptisms and other ordinances. President Bailey asks for a ruling as to what should be done in such cases. "After some discussion of the matter, Elder Stephen L. Richards moved that the matter be referred to Elder George Albert Smith, who will attend the approaching Oaho Stake Conference, with instructions that in the event he should find that a considerable number of people are involved, we assuming the authority was given to those brethren to officiate in these ordinances, that ratification of their acts be authorized. In the event he should discover that there are only one or two affected, and that the matter can be readily taken care of, it may be advisable to have re-baptism performed. "Motion seconded by Brother Ballard and unanimously approved." (Council Minutes, Oct. 29, 1936, Bennion papers, typed copy; also cited by Lester Bush in Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Spring 1973, p. 141)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...=books&n=507846 Mormons should not try to cover up the history of the Danites. They should revel in it. It's the Cosa Nostra for guys whose names end in "quist" & "sen". I have no problems in someone using Porter Rockwell as a screen name. But I do have problems with the state of Utah (or maybe it's Salt Lake County) naming a facility after a guy who may have committed the most religiously-inspired murders of anyone up until Sept 11, 2001.

People who use the names of people from early LDS history as their screen names are really stupid.

If it's in focus, it's pornography. If it's out of focus, it's art.

If you have a problem with Mexicans, you might want to ask why the LDS church opposed Utah House Bill 109.Currently, Utah allows illegal aliens to obtain drivers' licenses with a Matricula Consular. A Matricula Consular is a document that the very corrupt Mexican government issues to its citizens who are in this country illegally. A bill before the Utah state assembly would have restricted licenses to those who are in the country legally, but the LDS church opposed it & needless to say, the bill died. (Source: the local Radio Unica affilate's afternoon show) Also, you might want to ask if the 12th Article Of Faith has gone the way of polygamy & no blacks in the priesthood. The LDS Church issued a statement saying that illegals should not be denied a Temple Recommend if they otherwise qualify for it. If you are here illegally, you are not "being subject to kings, magistrates or other authorities"; you are violating the law. (Source, the SL Tribune but I am pretty sure that the Des News also carried an article about it.) So what other laws could I violate & still receive a Temple Recommend? Can I smoke a bowl of Acapulco Gold & still go to the Temple? Kewl, dewd.