Matthew: Your question regarding my curiosity requires a little bit of background information. I was listening to a radio call in show a where Christain listener was explaining at length why under any circumstances he would not want a Mormon president. He did a lousy job making his case, but I was curious as to why some people get their panties in such a twist when it comes to Mormonism, so I did a little research. I didn't find anything glaring until I came to the Mountain Meadows Massacre. I asked some of my Mormon friends about this and here's a summary of the responses: "What's Mountain Meadows?" "Who's John D. Lee?" "That didn't happen, Mormons wouldn't do that" "the only people who bring that up are anti Mormons" Further, I spoke to several missionaries, and here's the summary of their responses: "I don't know why Lee was reinstated" "Lee was never reinstated" "I fully support his reinstatement" I want more opinions on this matter, so here I am. Guy I appreciated you even handed candor and response, and the fact that you can disagree with me without being disagreeable. I am glad to have read that quick piece regarding the Mormons who did feel that those responsible for the brutal slaying of those unarmed men, women and children should be held accoutable. Believe it or not, this is actually what I want to hear more of from Mormons . I really didn't become a critic UNTIL I read of this incident and the Church's and members subsequent reaction. (or lack thereof) SuperChris: That bit about Godwins Law made me laugh heartily! levrafsgirl Based on some of the terms you used, may I ask if you are a current or past member? Vort I saved the best for last! Haha. I found it quite vexing that you'd refer to Lee as Brother. How would you feel if a Muslim called Osama, "brother Bin Laden"? Or if a catholic refered to Timothy McVeigh as "brother McVeigh"? How is it that a mass murderer like Lee can be reinstated, but an academic like D. Michael Quinn remains excommunicated? Surely you must be able to see why a non member may be put off by such actions. Furthermore, you can continue your defensive and dismissive tone toward me, but it's not helping your case.