Katie77584

Well I'm not suddgesting that the church doesn't have the right to set its own standards. Not only would I not agree with it. I would hate to see the day that it didn't have that right. That however doesn't make it hurt any less to be rejected. The problem is auctually kinda funny (now that I've had time to get over it). I truly think the church is admirable for not changeing despite political pressures. Anyways thanks for the responce.

Thank you spartan. I'm sorry if I was overly dramatic at the time. I was just upset about some of the things I had read. I shouldn't have gone off. It's just hard for me to seperate that this church isn't the church that I grew up in sometimes. I'm happy to hear about your friends daughter I hope that everything is going well for her. It sounds like she's further along than I am but not far so I know how hard it can be.

Wow thank you for that. I don't beleave I've ever auctually seen someone succeed in describing what it's like to have GID.

thanks for all the warm welcomes. :)

thanks for the welcome

Lol this is all to complicated for me. I wish the church had a step by step process that you could just check off. The thing is while some of this sounds like the church every different person seems to have a different awnser. I'm just hopeing that the bishop will set the record straight and give me what he expects of me. If not I guess next up is the stake president. Should have thought of that a week ago when he was in the area. Anyways only time will tell the only question is how much time.

To be honest at this point while I still dislike that um area (I'll try to be G rated) it is far less important to me. I would love to get baptized now. I'm just waiting on enough people to say that I am no threat or something. The missionaries have brought several men from the ward to meet me the last one being the mission president and the next to be the bishop. So I'm hopeing that since he's supposed to have the gift of discernment he can give me approval or atleast stop all the trouble with the missionaries. Seems like every week they change there mind about if they can come to my house. From what I hear I'll probably end up having to request permission from the first presidency though and I have no idea how long that will take. Sounds like something that would take a while though.

Nooooo!!!!! you said the bad word. PATIENT, I'm truly a modern person in that respect. I hate waiting for anything. Yeah I can't see why a transgender person (going my direction) would go after the priesthood unless they were just there trying to play a game with people. thanks for all the good advice. I've wondered about the patriarchal blessing, but I figured I should probably work on being baptized before I put alot of thought into that one.

I would hate to have to figure out what steps it would take to gain priesthood. It's hard enough as it is. Not being raised in the LDS church I only had one sister, but she was the first female born in our family for generations that is if you don't count me which of course no one in my family does.

Thank you replying. It's funny that you should talk about people being left handed concidering that I am left handed. I can see that the priesthood would be an issue for those that are already members. I don't think that it's really much of an issue with me. I know there are those with issues I'll never understand that make them do strange things (I really can't think of a stranger thing than claiming to be transgender when your not). I just don't see them trying to join the church and if they did I can't see that it would be something horrible. Maybe under the guidence of good people she could be touched. I would never argue about priesthood because first I don't want it and second why make more ripples than I have to. I'm sorry if I came across mean on the first message. I had just read the first couple pages on this thread and some of them are pretty disrespectful. I hope one day to be a member, but it's out of my hands. It is funny to me though that all the higher ups (surely there must be a name for them as a group) seem to be interviewing me one by one. I feel like an exotic fish at the aquarium.

I didn't even know you could do one quote after another like that. I did not compair being transgender to being depressed or Schizophrenia. I just pointed out that even if you do see it as a mental disorder it still doesn't make it right to condemn people for seeking relief from suffering. I quoted that scripture because I hope that the church will judge me the same way I judge it. You will know them by there fruits. Other than those two I really don't care to respond to someone that takes a few words twists them out of context and throws them back in my face. When you have something to say other than that I would love to hear it.

Hi there, I just wanted to introduce myself. I'm here because I'm looking into the LDS church. I've read the Book of Mormon and find that I beleave it. I would be working twards baptism, but I don't know if that will ever happen so I'm trying to learn while I have the time.

I was reading everyones views on transgender people, and I had one thought. How many of you have ever sat down and talked to someone who has had to suffer for years under both problems that come with being transgender and people who judge them without any qualification other than that they own a bible. Who gave you the right to judge what God has chosen for our individual trials in this mortal existance? When did you get the authority to proclaim that anyone is worthy or unworthy of the fathers love? I am transgender and I beleave that not only did my heavenly father make me the way I am, but I also beleave that it is one of the greatest gifts my father has given me. I haven't had the surgery, but I have no intention of going back to playing the male role that tormented me for so long. From what I've read here many of you would like to see me repent and return to being the person that I was forced to be for 29 years. I can only say to this that if I did that I would still be unworthy to be baptized and take part in the sacrament. To be a lier is just as much of a sin as anything else and to go back to that would cause me to have to lie in all that I do. So my pain would be for nothing. I find it absolutly amazing that people can demand things of people that they would never be able to survive themselves. Have any of you ever stopped to find out anything before you ploclaimed to the world that being transgender is a mental disorder? Did you know that around 40% of all transgender people commit suicide? Even if you think being transgender is a mental disorder I don't hear you telling people with problems with depression that they are unworthy. How about those that suffer from Schizophrenia? I've never heard someone claiming that they are denying Gods plan in there life by seeking medication to help allievate the suffering caused by there illness. I'm sorry if I come off to strong, but I've suffered quite a bit lately at the hands of those that would proclaim me unworthy. I've found the truth of the LDS church and now I have to grapple with the fact that I will likely never be able to be baptized. Even if I do get a approval letter from the first presidency (wich for those of you who don't know is the proper method of a transgender person becomeing members) I will never be able to enter the temple and give my mother the chance to join the church. I have many pains that come from being who I am and I can only hope that when I die heavenly father will judge me by the same standard that we are commanded to judge his church. Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?