Steve_Boveave

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  1. I understand giving people like Carl Sagan and George Carlin, non-believers who didn't have faith when they died, a chance to hear god's message. Yet, as an agnostic, I can't help but think of the other religions. When the nomatic tribes in africa hear about god's word, they're hearing one interpretation from a sect that has the funds to educate them. That may be a protestant church, a methodist church, or even a jewish temple. Let's say that judiasm believed in proxy ordinances like mormons do. If a jewish temple gave proxy ordinances as well, then we'd have a lot of people in the afterlife getting at least 2 versions of god's word. I mentioned earlier that I can see why you'd give non-believers the chance to hear god's word. I still can't wrap my head around why people like St. Ambrose and Óscar Romero were given proxy ordinances. They were popular figure-heads in their own religions, and they believed what they spoke about as much as you do. After posting this thread, I also found out that Anne Frank was baptized 67 years after her death, and the jewish community was up in arms about it, and rightly so. Again, I see why you'd offer someone a chance at god's word, but why try to convert someone who obviously has faith in a different belief? If we can't determine what god wants us to do, then won't we all get the chance to accept his(or her) word by default when we die? If we do, then why have proxy ordinances?
  2. I stumbled across a website called FamousDeadMormons.com. In this website, it lists many, many people who have been converted to Mormonism after they died. A few names mentioned were George Carlin, Carl Sagan, Saint Ambrose and Óscar Romero, a man who was a bishop of the Roman Catholic Church in El Salvador and became an Archbishop later on. I don't understand why the 1st two people I mentioned were converted, and I certainly don't understand why the last two were. They belonged to a different faith, but they were converted to a religion they didn't want any part of. I understand if people react negatively to what i'm about to ask, but how is this ok? Another person on the list is Mr. Rogers. Mr. Rogers was a Presbyterian minister. Why would you make Mr. Rogers a mormon? Why is Babe Ruth or George Orwell on this list? Again, if this breaks the 1st rule of the site, them i'm sorry I did so, but as someone who has genuine questions about religion, I just wanted to ask it. Thank you for reading this. Have a great day.