DellaMarie

This is very true palerider. My heart is broken . Even though many years had passed since not seeing this person we always enjoyed what I thought to be a true and bonafide friendship. This was certainly the last thing I expected . Although I am not Mormon, I have read sacred texts belonging to the church and the importance of honesty and forthrightness has always been such a dominant theme and decree. I admire that , so when my friend offered to assist in paying our respects to whom I thought was our mutual friend for decades , I really had no reason to doubt any insincerity. After the revelation of the falling out , I chose to forgive his feelings towards our friend because I had no direct knowledge of what happened and there was only one side to tell now. Two years transpired , and all the time he would mention this money and how he was going to pay it back and not to worry . Then, he came to me with a story of medical need,and myself being in the same position, my heart went out to him. It was completely foolish of me to trust him. He certainly is a " Sunday only Worshipper" . I can't live my life like that . I make mistakes like any human, but my faith and belief are unwavering and I completely believe the Golden Rule is of paramount importance. I would never do this to another person, especially one who has undergone such suffering from an accident. When he had his accident, I never even asked him about the money he received. Didn't ask for a penny, never knew when the matter settled. It was none of my business and even though I had helped him tremendously, I never felt entitled to ask for anything from him. The fact that he can do this to a friend who has gone through hell and back because of this near fatal accident appalls me and I seriously wonder how much he actually ever cared for me . Well, I won't be bothering any of you kindfolk again. I received valuable insight and I'm on my way now . Feel free to close this thread as I consider my questions answered. Thanks.

Thank you DHK. Sorry about the nonparagraphs. The thing is, he DID use his faith as a bait. It wasn't like we reconnected and two minutes later he was asking for the money .We reconnected a few months earlier, and then our/my friend died. I had no idea he and this man had a falling out years ago. He didn't mention that in our stroll down Memory Lane . He INSISTED on coming home to take me to the funeral because I had expressed a sadness at not being able to go due to being in a wheelchair from my car accident, and not having anyone who could come out and get me . It wasn't just about my dead friend. He said he also wanted to spend time with me. Every time I called , he still hadn't made any arrangements to fly out and then finally he dropped that hate bomb on me and told me he had no intention of coming back for our friend and he used the money for his own personal needs! And yes , I was definitely a fool to lend to him a second time . You get no defense from me on that . But I DID believe we were genuine friends still , so forgiveness and understanding are supposed to run deep , especially when he kept promising that all would be repaid. He talked constantly about the church in those months prior .. so YES... I did expect him to behave in a morally upright fashion. To that poster who asked if I came here to bash Mormons..... where in any of these lines have you seen anything even resembling that ? That's absurd. You seem to be implying I believe this man did this because he's Mormon.... I'm saying this man did this and is hiding behind a veil, claiming to act as a Man of God when he's being a hypocrite ! If he was Catholic, Jewish or worshipped Star Trek Klingons would make no difference ..... using a love of God, espousing it constantly and then bilking people is not cool. I have always been a Spiritual person, there was no secret to that EVER in my life. He used my Love For God and manipulated an injured person. Going to read those links now. And thank you Suzie and NeuroTypical . Thank you for those articles DHK. They are very enlightening, indeed. Of course, this isn't a ponzi scheme, but the spirit of the articles completely relates on a microcosmic level what has happened to me . I believe I have been given good information from you and will now think, pray and meditate upon the situation in a brighter light. Thank you everyone for your contribution to my query and may God Bless You and keep you safe always. Take care. ~~ Della Marie

I expected an intelligent, thought out reply. I expected people of this man's alleged faith to give me some insight as to how others within the church you belong to have dealt with this kind of heinous behaviour. I expected to be treated with RESPECT, not ridiculed and scorned. Maybe you all have 4000 extra dollars lying around.... I DO NOT. I have known this man since my teenage years and never thought for two seconds he would pull a [moderator edit] stunt like this on me . He's acting as a thief.And DHK , reread my post...... the man who belongs to your faith said HE was glad our / my friend was dead .... he wished he would rot in hell. I wouldn't say that about my worst enemy. HE is the one who called me horrible, untrue names ... Again.... I have no room for that kind of talk about people . And, NO ... I'm not looking for your sympathy. I'm looking for sensible advice when other avenues have failed. And since this man insists on how important his "faith" is to him, I EXPECT him to act like it .... not like a petty crook trying to screw over a person that helped him to learn to walk again after his OWN terrible accident many years ago. A person who remained by his side in friendship when others chose to walk away , ok? No one gave a [moderator edit] when he had his accident and couldn't walk! We were young and sowing oats. All his " good buddies" were out busy partying and living it up . I'm not saying I sacrificed my entire life for his recovery, far from it, BUT, I WAS the one who single handedly helped him with his physical therapy every day for over a year and a half, no matter what other responsibilities I had; and I had plenty ! And to the other poster about suing him; this is no longer a matter for small claims court since it is 6500.00 dollars. And I agree, yes, shame on me for trusting a person who spews filth and lies . He is a stellar representative of your faith , is he not? Someone I would want as an elder in my church ! Also for your edification: "running" to a forum is NOT the first thing I did ..... I have tried to talk sense into this miasmic person for months.

Seriously? That's the answer. This forum is a joke.No wonder 95% of your members are inactive. Bye.

Hello, A person from my past resurfaced in 2010 after I had a near fatal car wreck and a mutual friend of ours passed away that same year . He was living in Seattle at the time and still continues to go back monthly for doctors visit, or so he says. Anyway, our mutual friend passed away in December, 2010, and this person, whom I haven't seen since 1988 starts calling me, acting like we're dear old friends, oh didn't we have such a good time in our youth, gee I've missed you , blah blah blah. Meanwhile, I'm in a wheelchair for 8 months already and my doctors don't know if I will ever be able to walk again. So this person INSISTS he has to travel back home to take me to our friend's funeral/memorial , but there's one hitch.... he needs 3,000.00 to do it. Well, I was in a wheelchair, recovering from a traumatic brain injury, fractured skull, half my ribs broken, and a crushed leg. I started a legal action against the company that caused the injuries, but i had spent all my savings taking care of the home, my pets, and my mom's mortgage, and without going back to work , understandably, all my savings were depleted. Literally, THE DAY BEFORE this person asked me for this money I had received a presettlement loan towards my bills, so on Christmas Eve, I wire transferred him 3,000.00 . This money , and I told him CLEARLY was to pay for his airfare, hotel while here, the rental car to come get me, the gas and our food. Well, on December 30, 2010, he calls me and says he ran into a jam and had to pay a vet bill and some back rent, would I send him another 1000.00 . Being a kind hearted person who just really wanted to pay my respects to my lost friend ad his family , I reluctantly agreed and on New Year's Eve sent him another 1000.00, for a total of 4,000.00 total. I told him I needed this money back because I didn't want to keep borrowing against the lawsuit settlement at 121% interest !!!! 4,000.00 isn't a small amount of money !!! Well, I kept calling and calling and calling , asking this person about the plane tickets, when is he arriving, etc., and FINALLY, the day before our friend's service, he informs me he's not coming, he used the money to pay back rent and get food and how "grateful" he was for my kind help and, oh by the way, our friend? We had a falling out years ago and I can't stand him.... I'm glad he's dead. I hope he rots in Hell . Yes, he said this to me. I was shocked and hurt. He tells me he's going to get this money back to me one way or another, he PROMISES. Fast forward to 2013. I hadn't received a dime from him , we were still speaking all during these three years and he then tells me he needs to have knee surgery immediately , could he borrow 4,000.00, to which he promptly produces 4 checks for 1,000.00 each, prodated. He tells me I can deposit them at the appropriate times. 3 weeks later, I'm getting ready to deposit the first check and he tells me he's having problems with his bank account and could I wait ... Well, I'm a goodhearted Christian woman and I always try to think the best of people before I actually see the worst, so, once again, I reluctantly agree to wait .....He made extremely feeble attempts to pay anything back and now I need surgery on my leg. Here it is , 2014 and this man started cursing me out, telling me I am hated by my community, I'm a whore , oh yes ... I'm psycho, a liar .... he texted all this stuff to me and I have those horrible and shocking texts locked on my cell phone ! You should see what he replied when I told him he wasn't acting very Mormon-like !!!! And this man is espousing the Mormon Faith all the while he's saying these things to me !!!!!!!!! Well, through drips and drabs, he did manage to pay off a thousand dollars so the debt is down to 7000.00 and I told him I absolutely need this money back for my medical care and he told me in much more colorful language to go to Hell . After much going back and forth he says, he will pay me the 3,000.00 remaining from the 2013 debt, but the 2010 debt was "a gift" . It was no such thing !!!!! It was payment for a service.... for him to fly home, rent a car, pick me up and take me to my friend's funeral because I had no other way to get there ( I had moved nearly 3 hours away from where we all used to live) . I desperately need this money back and he's acting in a most unholy manner .He told me very personal things that would and do go against the fiber of the Mormon Faith , and he's behaving as a hypocrite . What can I do ? Would someone please PM me so we can talk privately? I am bewildered and shocked at this complete hypocritical betrayal . Thank you. God Bless You All.