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That seems odd.

Thanks for the link, bat.

Again, I think that I spoke rather plainly about this: Anything else that I can clear up for you? Can we get back to the original question now?

Well, bat, this sounds like you have an attitude of your own towards the LDS church. No, my complaints are not that he made the book readable to the masses. I think that I spoke pretty planely in the post that you just quoted from as to my criticisms. Yes, I am sure that I read the book. I don't know who Bro Turley is. What did you think of the book?

Back to the original topic. Does anyone have any further background on Joseph Smith peeping into a hat to look at stones? Were there the Urim & Thumim?

Lied a lot? Why were you hoping that I would say that? I guess I was vague before so I'll be more succinct in my criticisms: 1. His style was hard(for me to follow). The reading level of the book wasn't all that high(good thing, huh?) but he really jump around the timeline A LOT, making it incresingly hard to get back to his original point(history of LDS->FLDS->murders). 2. He did not appear to make any attempt to have a broad view of the beginnings or the current state of the LDS church. Indeed, he spent most of his time ripping on the early to mid-nineteenth century LDS church when the book was supposedly about the murders which happened a hundred and fifty years later. I understand that necessity of providing a historical background but in this case the background became the book and the subject became the background. What did you think of the book, bat?

I didn't say that I was angry. The comment about dog excrement was mostly because it was poorly written. It jumped all over the place and did a poor job of providing clear background for the crimes in question. Any, yes, it did appear to me that he had an agenda. His book left me with the impression that he had a certain attitude about the LDS church and hand picked sources to back it up.

Any of you hear anything about Joseph Smith doing any peeping into a hat looking at stones? I saw it on South Park(not exactly the best source) and read it also in 'Under the Banner of Heaven'(a piece of dog excrement); but I do hear about things like this from time to time in the early days of the church. Anyone know anything?