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it seems to me that you related it pretty well! Even with it in it's 'paraphrased' form it made a lot of sense to me.

Thanks... is it a more formal 'lesson' or a more relaxed social call?

can you tell me more about it?

would someone be kicked out for making a mistake and repenting it? this is the first i've heard of 'discipline' in the LDS church for sinning. I'm not a practicing Catholic, but I attended a Catholic elementary school and one had penance, usually in the form of prayers (and hopefully soul searching!) but never 'discipline' Could someone explain a bit more about LDS discipline?

where can i find the explanatory 'footnote'? was it in some talk that i can access the written version of?

well sheesh...i'm just trying to learn everything i can. i don't want to 'deal' with the ambiguity. if this is the right thing for me i want to make sure that i am doing everything the way it should be done. not sitting around wondering if it's wrong to drink a cup of hot chocolate. and for a new person, looking up the word of wisdom online, speaking with the missionaries or in her book it doesn't have a little footnote that says 'further explained elsewhere' i'm not trying to be nasty or offensive. i'm just trying to learn.

specifically it says: "9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly. "

question a bit more on #1 back then...when the word of wisdom was made it wasn't specifically known that it was caffeine causing the 'addictiveness' plus..i've had many members tell me it's okay for herbal tea? um...herbal tea is HOT....but it does NOT have caffeine in it.... so why is herbal tea okay if it's hot? it seems because of a caffeine thing to me. and they told me it was because the word of wisdom said coffee and tea..and non-herbal tea is from the tea plant..so that's what makes herbal tea okay because it's not from the tea plant. but i thought the word of wisdom said 'hot drinks' and what about hot chocolate. hot chocolate is a hot drink AND has caffeine in it! i'm so confused.

I guess I've never seen God needing to 'punish' the wicked. To have this great show of doing it. I see that kind of as a way to 'scare' the righteous. And I don't think God needs to rule by fear, you know? I've always thought that if he were to come back and there was a need to rid/punish the world of the wicked he wouldn't have to do it in way that would drive fear into the hearts of people.

So Sunday before last, our regular teacher was not teaching our class (she just had her baby, yay!) and we had this other person. he went on to teach about Jesus coming back to earth someday and had us take turns reading passages out loud. i'm paraphrasing here, but the passages talked about him coming back in 'garments of red' which the teacher said meant blood. and he went on to describe just 'how' he was coming back and what he was going to do to the 'wicked.' he even joked about him being the Terminator! :eek: He spoke of then there being a period of 1000 years where the wicked left behind would have a chance to be taught and redeemed before the final reckoning (i think that's the word he used). anyways, my husband and i, who are not yet members were quite appalled!!! here, all along we've been being taught that Jesus and His message is more about love, etc. we were even told that the reason why the lds church doesn't have pictures of Jesus on the cross because the lds church prefers to focus more on his life than on his death. From everything i've read on my own, i just have a hard time believing that Jesus would come back Terminator style and just wipe out people left and right. and just what would determine someone is wicked if that is the case? People who don't follow a particular faith? (that what of the people in this world that have never even come into contact with the correct faith? seems unfair to me!) People who only give 2%? or drink an occasional coffee? Please don't take me as belittling, becasue I'm not at all. I'm just trying to understand because this really seemed to come out of the blue and it's been really bothering me the last couple of weeks. I would simply love it and be extremely thankful for anyone who could chime in here and tell me their take (or what they have learned in their class) about all of this. Like I said, it's really bothering me and the thought of exposing my children to learning something like this and being frightened just doesn't sit right with me. Please help!

Please move if necessary. Thanks. Could someone define, very simply, what an actual testimony is? i'm sorry if this is a stupid question. Thank you.

Hi, I've recently been learning about LDS and attending on a few Sundays. I have a few questions that I was hoping to post and get some answers/advice but I don't know where to put them. When I click on the LDS Forums tab it takes me to a whole different area where I can see a place that would be appropriate to post questions but it says I don't have permission? I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong and would appreciate any advice. Thanks.