Cyra

This post has me confused. ARe you looking for an Indian from the courntry of India, or a Native American Indian who lives on the east coast. We have several thriving tribes in both North and South Carolina, from the eastern part of the state all the way back to the mountains. Cyra

Unorthodox:<<Anyway, maybe I overreacted to those people who boast about eternal marriages. Sometimes, I just feel a need to make sure other people are given respect, but I shouldn't get so upset. I think I just need to accept these prideful teachings as part of LDS culture and not concern myself with it.>> Maybe when someone speaks their belief with a firm knowledge and faith, you mis-interpret that as being pride. Just my guess. Cyra

I am presently in my late 40's, was Methodist until age 25 when I joined the Baptist church. I left the Baptist church for a Presbyterian church some 10 years later and 2 years ago became a Latter Day Saint, so I think that I am qualified to speak on what "other" churches believe. When the wedding vows say "until death" that is exactly what they mean. When we die and are resurrected, we are spirits and we recognize and continue to know and love our friends and families but there no belief that we continue our 'earthly' relationships with them. The concept of eternal marriage was very foreign to me and took quite a bit of argument to get me to believe it. Although I know know we have a prophet in our time and did not have a problem with most of the LDS doctrine that I was taught, I did have a struggle with some of it. I continue to struggle with some of it because I know it in my heart but can't seem to wrap my brain around it. You would probably have to have spent the greater part of your life in another belief system to understand that statement. Cyra

Whoa there, we just met, and that just over the internet. But thanks for the vote of confidence. Of course, if you love me in a brother/sister way, that would be okay too, I guess. Oops, sorry. didn't mean to shake you up or scare you. I'm not really a weird old lady, but I do tell a lot of people that I love them. And I've met very few people that I didn't love, and those people I pitty.Maybe you should be glad that this is just over the internet. I'm also a hugger. Why shake a hand when a hug is so much nicer. Cyra

I love you!!! You transport me back to such a wonderfully innocent time in my life with most of your posts. Cyra

I'll probably get royally flamed for saying this, but here goes. What makes you think that by making abortion illegal that it will stop? You are obviously too young to remember what it was like before abortion became legal. It was equally ugly back then, maybe more so. Why is it worse to murder an unborn baby than it is to murder a teenager or an adult. My first husband was murdered for less than $200. during a robbery. Yes, it was illegal, but did that prevent it from happening. You can get yourself all bent out of shape over something that you an not change, or you can work constructively to make the small changes in your own little part of the world. The choice is yours. Cyra

You are a little late on your abortion stance. Your teenage daughter can ALREADY get an abortion without your permission or knowledge and any stranger who wishes can ALREADY get an abortion for convenience. No matter how much we (LDS) and the religious right scream and protest, that is a fact that will not chance. If one really wants to prevent abortion, at this point in history, we much prevent the NEED for an abortion. IMO- that would be done by educating both our daughters and our sons. We have to get them to see the importance of preventing the pregnancy in the first place. Carrying a sack of flour or a mechanical baby around school for a week will not do it either. The teen needs to see real babies and real teens in real life situations. They also need to know how their bodies actually work, the long run consequences of abortion on a girl's body, emotional and spiritual well being. Scare tactics will not work either. It must be accurate and truthful because kids today are smart enough to know if we are not being truthful. That's just my opinion and observation after spending years as a girl scout/ boy scout leader and as a mother of 3 (just barely) adult children. Cyra

Hi. You sound like me when I was first baptized. I was anxious to jump right in there and learn and do everything that I could right away. To hurry up and be a "real" latter day saint instead of being constantly referred to as a convert. I was baptized on Sunday, July 14, 2002 and recieved my first calling the following Wednesday. I still hold that calling plus one other. AFter 4 months I recieved my Patriarchial Blessing. Then in July of 2003 (1year and a few days after my baptism) I went to the temple for my endowments. If I had it to do over the only thing that I would change would be to have listened to the missionaries who came to see me back in 1978. But at that time, the things they were trying to tell me sounded to rediculous and far fetched to my Methodist ears. I didn't come into contact with anymore Mormons until 20 years later, and no more missionaries until the March before I was baptized. I am telling you all this as an example to also follow the Spirit. The Spirit knew that I was not ready for the church until 2002, and so He did not make it available to me again until then. When you are ready for your callings, Patriarchial Blessing and Endowments, the Spirit will place the opportunities there for you and guide you through it. Cyra

Because the medications do not work. He is a diabetic who refuses to give up candy, cakes and sweet sodas. He is numb from the knees down, his hands are partially numb and other parts of him have very little feeling. He was warned by both me and his doctor years ago that this would happen to him if he did not eat right and take care of his health, but he chose not to listen. Now he is very bitter with life in general and is allowing himself to become helpless. Cyra Sorry Cyra, didn't mean to sound so flippin mean, but it did sound to me like all the blame was placed on your "older" husband. Medical reasons are big things to have to learn to work around, and it DOES take two to work....if he doesn't want to try to help himself, that is a big problem. Normally not as mean as I appear to be...I'm basically a little tamer :) No, sorry, I was not blaming him. I will not even blame him totally for the other problems that are in our marriage. I should have made sure he really was who he said he was before marrying him, and since I didn't I have only myself to blame for all my disappointments. There are a lot of things I should have done (or should not have put up with) way back then, and now I am paying the consequences for it now. Most of it was ignorance and some of it was fear. Cyra

Because the medications do not work. He is a diabetic who refuses to give up candy, cakes and sweet sodas. He is numb from the knees down, his hands are partially numb and other parts of him have very little feeling. He was warned by both me and his doctor years ago that this would happen to him if he did not eat right and take care of his health, but he chose not to listen. Now he is very bitter with life in general and is allowing himself to become helpless. Cyra

Wow, you people sure jumped on my comments awfully quickly. IMO it does not qualify as "badmouthing" my husband when you have no clue who I am, nor do you have a clue who he is and will probably never meet either of us. Badmouthing him would be if I were talking with my girlfirends or other friends about him and telling them of my unhappiness. That is not the case, I do not gossip with my friends about my family or my other friends. I only vent my feelings in anonymous situations. But here I was only stating an opinion along with an example of the consequence for being married to someone with a wide range in age difference. I did not realize a lot of things when I was first married, and by the time I did realize what I had gotten into, it was too late. I had hoped that my mistake would help someone else think things through a little better than I did. Cyra

Being the mother of an 18 yr. old daughter, I would be very suspecius of any man near my age who wanted a relationship with her, even if she was 21. On the other hand, I am married to a man who is 11 years older than me and it was a big mistake. There are other problems beside the age difference, but even if there were not other problems the age difference would still be a mistake. Men often lose the ability to function 'romantically" as they age. Viagra does not help everyone. Living in a marriage with no affection or passion is miserable. Cyra

I have been a latter day saint for 2 years and am not going to pretend to know all the 'official' church doctrine, but I can tell you what I believe. I believe now and always have believed that God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit were 3 seperated intities as well as being one unit. This concept of 3 in 1 never bothered me because when a man and woman are married they are said to be joined as one, but they are still physically 2 seperate individuals. There are just too many places in the Bible that refers to Christ talking with God and visa versa, so to me atleast, they have to be seperate individuals. I do now, and have always believed that Christ is Diety/God as well as 'man'. I believe He was God along with his Father before being born to Mary inorder to become man. When he was crucified and resurected, he returned to being God again. Inorder to attone for us and our salvation He had to become human. But, since His Father is God, even as a human He was still part God. I don't know how to explain it, it is one of those things that I just know through faith. I hope you are not looking for a scientific explanation of how Christ can be God/Human, because I can't do that. One reason that is was so easy for me to convert to the Mormon faith two years ago is because although I have been Methodist, Baptist and Presbyterian at various times in my life. But the things that I have always believed are more in tune with Mormon beliefs and when I accidentally discovered the LDS church and discovered that, I was thrilled and relieved to have finally found where I belong. Cyra

I think that I have a fairly good understanding of sealings. But I am concerned about friends. I am glad that we can be sealed to our family, except that my family are anti-Mormon Baptists, Methodists and Presbyterians. But I have some very dear friends who I love with the same intensity that I love family members and we can't be sealed to them, only family. I grew up with the belief that "we would all see eachother in heaven, friends, neighbors, family, everyone who gets there" and now since becoming a latter day saint, some of my old beliefs don't jive with the LDS beliefs and doctrines and I become very concerned, confused, and frustrated. Cyra

I remember when Kurt Russell was a cute little boy playing in westerns. Cyra