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  1. Not sure

    in Support in Hard Times

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    Back in 1983 I was molested by my bishop, I was 14 years old. I thought what he did was normal at the time 40 plus years later I realize it wasn’t. I love The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints I don’t want to bring anything bad to the church but I was deceived. The bishop has passed away. What do I do?

  2. The fate of Judas Iscariot

    in LDS Gospel Discussion

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    On 10/1/2012 at 2:44 PM, horax said:

    We all know teh story of Judas and how he sold Jesus for 30 pieces of silver.

    I have always wondered exactly what his fate woudl be. We see that in Matthew, Judas felt badly when he saw how Jesus was being treated and returned the money. However, when Jesus was not released and the money was not accepted, he killed himself.

    Would he be more guilty of killing himself and not enduring to the end (and not being able to repent of his action of killing himself in this life) or of fulfilling a prophecy set forth by Jeremiah that one of Jesus' apostles would betray him?

    Also, one of my seminary students asked me this morning if Judas would be cast into outer darkness as a son of perdition since he walked with Christ and yet denied him.

    I said I'd do reserach, but I don't think he ever actually DENIED Christ or his teachings. He was presented an opportunity by Satan and he took it (which was wrong). I'm pretty sure all the apostles were tempted at differetn times, but Judas let the thought linger in his mind and eventually it took root in his heart and it ruined him.

    I have been looking through Jesus the Christ by Talmage as a reference, and I am going to go thorugh it again tonight, but if memory servefs he mentions how Judas is in perhaps the worst state ever due to his betrayal of the Lord. He mentions how you cannot walk a gray line in serving Christ. Either you follow him or you do not...you support God or you support Satan.

    According to his ideas, Judas might be in big trouble as he walked and talked with Deity and yet chose to serve the Evil One. At that moment, it's highly possible that he damned himself from further progression and would ultimately be cast into outer darkness.

    Remember, outer darkness is the only place where Eternal Progression is halted. You can progress in the Telestial, Celestial, and Terrestrial kingdoms, but you cannot progress OUT of them.

    What are your thoughts on this?

    In the Book of Mormon we read how the 12 disciples will  help judge the people and another 12 ( 12 from when Christ comes to visit the people in 3rd Nephi)will judge.