Previously, I'd heard speakers in Gen. Conf. say that we shouldn't be too concerned about the public speaking talent of the speakers at sacrament meeting, or the teaching ability of teachers in Sunday School. It is up to us to bring our own portion of the Spirit to the meetings and seek out the Lord. Ok. I see that point. Though I think that's kinda tough sometimes. At my stake conference, the area seventy said the primary concern that the apostles have is that we need to make all our meetings at church and at home more spiritual. This coupled with all the talks and discussion that ensued seemed to indicate that there is a widespread problem with people simply not feeling the Spirit anymore. (My interpretation). ************************* Traveler asked if "evil is increasing in the world". Vort posed the question "by what criteria?" I really appreciated that discussion. Traveler's final response (post #43 on that thread) gave some valuable insight. And for the most part, I agreed with him. But it was deemed impossible to measure. I'd submit that if the apostles are concerned that the saints are having the Spirit withdraw from them in a widespread manner, then this is a good criterion to measure if evil is increasing in the world. Thoughts?