Waiting To Have Kids -- Bad Idea.

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Originally posted by Heather@Oct 2 2005, 09:35 AM

They should've been prepared and had the house in order before he got there :)  I'm not talking about being a fanatic when it comes to cleanliness, but I don't feel the spirit in my home when it's a disaster.  I love being in a clean home.  We've all been in unclean environments, be it a store, a resteraunt, etc.  Would you really want to eat anything there?  Would you want to read your scriptures there?  How about invite your inlaws?  I honestly don't see how having an unclean house can be a good thing.  I feel I get so much more done if everything has a place and everything is in it's place.  To me it shows that I respect myself, I respect those who come into my home, and I respect the items that I own by taking care of them.

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I agree... just wish I could get there... LOL

[pushka]

Hehehe...yeah, same here Please!!! My own parents don't even visit my house, fortunately...lol (hangs her head in shame...)

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Originally posted by pushka@Oct 2 2005, 08:10 PM

Hehehe...yeah, same here Please!!!  My own parents don't even visit my house, fortunately...lol (hangs her head in shame...)

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I am so glad I am not the only one.... with boys and dogs and being sick off and on this year... it seems I never get it all done...

[Fiannan]

Response to Please's comments:

Now as to the education system... it isn't as good as the parents make it... there are definite failures... I know many many people who went the extra mile for the schools and still their children were neglected and the teachers pushed all the responsibility onto the parents...

I will give you just one example... waiting on chairs just across from a row of teacher behind tables... parents were able to hear the teacher tell each and every parent the exact same thing... "Your child is the only one not keeping up with the class. You must work at night with him/her until they catch up with the class..."

This teacher was expecting the parents to teach their own child... while the teacher did nothing....

I am generally antagonistic towards government schools, but that is on the macro scale, not individual teachers. Parents bring a child into the world and they should take greater responsibility in teaching him or her.

Take your typical middle or high school class -- we'll focus on a history class that has 30 students for 1 hour. Let's pretend that you can actually squeeze 1 hour of good teaching -- that still gives you 2 minutes per child. What's wrong with trying to suppliment your children's work -- expecially if the teacher is some liberal with an agenda? In my kid's lessons recently my 14 year old is going to study the American Revolution. My plan is that he will have to investigate a website called "Washington in the Classroom", read up on some pages on the causes of the war and then I will suppliment this visually by having him watch "Patriot". Recently I made him and his brothers watch the entire "History of Britain" (6 hours when combined) and now they know more about British history than any other kids in their school. I do similar things for biology, etc.

Now considering the fact that I received a great education without my mother's or father help in any way.... I find it horrific that parents... most of them both working jobs and extra jobs to meet the bills.... and then trying to keep their children actively engaged in extra stuff like music lessons and some sport.... have to still do the job of an over paid teacher sitting on her arse....

Yes, overly stressed yuppies working two jobs so they can afford an SUV and a big house in the newest section of the suburbs. Now I do feel sorry for couples who both work at Wal "made in China" Mart who may both have to work full time to pay the bills just to survive. However, most people I hear complain about not having time or money to raise more than 1.8 kids are more concerned with materialism than maternalism. People make their choices.

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Now considering the fact that I received a great education without my mother's or father help in any way.... I find it horrific that parents... most of them both working jobs and extra jobs to meet the bills.... and then trying to keep their children actively engaged in extra stuff like music lessons and some sport.... have to still do the job of an over paid teacher sitting on her arse...

Yes, overly stressed yuppies working two jobs so they can afford an SUV and a big house in the newest section of the suburbs.  Now I do feel sorry for couples who both work at Wal "made in China" Mart who may both have to work full time to pay the bills just to survive.  However, most people I hear complain about not having time or money to raise more than 1.8 kids are more concerned with materialism than maternalism.  People make their choices.

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I think you are way way way off.... and are fixated on materialism... in others.

I don't believe everyone is materialistic when they are trying to do the best for their kids ... both spiritually and physically...

You do what you can... apparently you are pverty stricken and have a hugh chip on your shoulder... towards those who have been successful in making some money...