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Marginoferror----I am so impressed with your understanding that I had to say it in words--posting a "thanks" wasn't enough.

I especially appreciated your comment about not being able to think rationally when you are a victim of abuse, and how someone might feel if they had lost what they thought was their only source of rescue.

This was the same frustration I was feeling when i first came on this board---I know I am not always rational, not just because of my circumstances, but because I also have a chronic illness and I take a lot of medication. When the Prophets and Apostles speak out so much against abuse, and tell us that there is help in the church---and then you can't get that help you were told is there from your local leaaders---it is pretty easy to become a little (a lot) disillusioned with things.

And then people just want to say you are talking negative about your leaders........so I try not to discuss that part of my life anymore, but, I've also been fortunate that I finally got a leader to follow through with giving me some help----but it took 5 or 6 years.

Badwolf--having watched a couple of divorces over the years, of couples In my ward----and hearing all the gossip and misconceptions of what was actually going on----and then learning different things later----I think you are right when you say that sometimes people do NEED to move into a completely different ward.

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