Is there room for genuine dissent on this board?

[Klein_Helmer]

There are a lot of ideas floating around that really don't jive with me, and I'd just like to know whether I can discuss their specifics without fear of getting axed. I've seen a few people seemingly get banned for respectfully expressing unpopular views. I'd like to believe I am free to do just that, but will not if that means getting banned. It seems to me if people here truly have courage in their convictions, they would not fear subjecting their beliefs to authentic scrutiny. Edited June 13, 2013 by Klein_Helmer

[Guest]

As long as you are following the site rules, which are linked toward the top of the page, there's no problem.

[Guest]

In fact, to make it even easier, here they are: Terms & Conditions » LDS Social Network

[Klein_Helmer]

As long as you are following the site rules, which are linked toward the top of the page, there's no problem.

In fact, to make it even easier, here they are: Terms & Conditions » LDS Social Network

Thanks, Eowyn.

I'll give them another reading.

You never did get back to me with regard to A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of thrones.

I know you like fantasy, but you also seem to take your faith and the standards thereof seriously. Have you read the books or watched the show?

They

Are

Incredible.

Edited June 14, 2013 by Klein_Helmer

[Guest]

I haven't really looked into them. My friend (who is a book addict and keeps our family in supply) said that they start getting pretty off-color the farther you get into them. I don't want to get hooked on a story and then have to stop before the end because I'm not comfortable with the content.

[Dr T]

I know from experience people get put on a list and told "you are breaking rule X" when in fact it never happened.

[Klein_Helmer]

I haven't really looked into them. My friend (who is a book addict and keeps our family in supply) said that they start getting pretty off-color the farther you get into them. I don't want to get hooked on a story and then have to stop before the end because I'm not comfortable with the content.

I see.

That is certainly your choice, but I see it as a great shame. When I consider all of the books I have read, music I have listened to, and films I have watched, the amount of insight I gained from the G rated stuff is almost nonexistent.

I know from experience people get put on a list and told "you are breaking rule X" when in fact it never happened.

That was the concern. I know we are not to discuss the particulars of bans and infractions on the public board, but I have also seen people taken out without seeming to have broken any rules. I guess I just wanted to get this out there, so if I do go down for engaging in a spirited discussion, without breaking any rules, we can all recognize it for what it was.

[Leah]

I see.

That is certainly your choice, but I see it as a great shame. When I consider all of the books I have read, music I have listened to, and films I have watched, the amount of insight I gained from the G rated stuff is almost nonexistent.

That was the concern. I know we are not to discuss the particulars of bans and infractions on the public board, but I have also seen people taken out without seeming to have broken any rules. I guess I just wanted to get this out there, so if I do go down for engaging in a spirited discussion, without breaking any rules, we can all recognize it for what it was.

If you gain no insight from "G rated stuff", that is your failure, not the failure of said stuff.

I see no shame in anyone upholding their morals by declining to read/watch those things which go against their morals. They are to be applauded, not shamed.

Any time one becomes a member of an online forum, they are a guest of said forum, and as such, need to abide by the stated rules. It's really a no-brainer. If you don't like the rules of a forum or don't want to abide by them, then either find another forum or start your own.

Having moderated forums previously, just because you can't see the reason for a banning in a public manner - such as posted on a thread - does not in any way mean that no rules were broken. This particular board's rules are quite clear, and I have seen members push the boundaries repeatedly before being banned, so I don't imagine bannings here are whimsical or arbitrary.

It's very, very simple...don't break the rules and you won't get banned.

Edited June 14, 2013 by Leah

[Guest]

There's a process for going up the line if you feel you've been unfairly treated. When that happens, the mod in question tries to stay out of it while the others discuss what's happened. In the case that it needs to go higher up the ladder, it can. But there is a rule, which everyone agrees to upon registration, that complaints against moderation are to be done in private. I'm sure you can imagine why that is necessary, but either way, let's not get too close to breaking that rule here. Never hesitate to take concerns to a moderator in private, though. They will get to where they need to go.

[Guest]

If you gain no insight from "G rated stuff", that is your failure, not the failure of said stuff.

Any time one becomes a member of an online forum, they are a guest of said forum, and as such, need to abide by the stated rules. It's really a no-brainer. If you don't like the rules of a forum or don't want to abide by them, then either find another forum or start your own.

Having moderated forums previously, just because you can't see the reason for a banning in a public manner - such as posted on a thread - does not in any way mean that no rules were broken. This particular board's rules are quite clear, and I have seen members push the boundaries repeatedly before being banned, so I don't imagine bannings here are whimsical or arbitrary.

It's very, very simple...don't break the rules and you won't get banned.

Yes, and frequently the incident that caused the banning is deleted from public view, so you wouldn't necessarily see it. . . and then it's easy to assume things.

[Klein_Helmer]

If you gain no insight from "G rated stuff", that is your failure, not the failure of said stuff.

Any time one becomes a member of an online forum, they are a guest of said forum, and as such, need to abide by the stated rules. It's really a no-brainer. If you don't like the rules of a forum or don't want to abide by them, then either find another forum or start your own.

Having moderated forums previously, just because you can't see the reason for a banning in a public manner - such as posted on a thread - does not in any way mean that no rules were broken. This particular board's rules are quite clear, and I have seen members push the boundaries repeatedly before being banned, so I don't imagine bannings here are whimsical or arbitrary.

It's very, very simple...don't break the rules and you won't get banned.

Perhaps I should have worded that more carefully and stated it, "When compared to the insight I have gained from non G rated material, the amount of insight I have gained from G rated material is nearly nonexistent."

That should be self evident, as G rated material, by its very nature, cannot meaningfully address an enormity of the most important issues with which we humans grapple.

Additionally, please refrain from putting words in my mouth.

I never said I didn't like the rules here, and I never said I intended on breaking them. I just wanted to make sure that I will be allowed to give my ideas voice, no matter how controversial, provided I play by the rules.

Edited June 14, 2013 by Klein_Helmer

[Klein_Helmer]

There's a process for going up the line if you feel you've been unfairly treated. When that happens, the mod in question tries to stay out of it while the others discuss what's happened. In the case that it needs to go higher up the ladder, it can. But there is a rule, which everyone agrees to upon registration, that complaints against moderation are to be done in private. I'm sure you can imagine why that is necessary, but either way, let's not get too close to breaking that rule here. Never hesitate to take concerns to a moderator in private, though. They will get to where they need to go.

Yes, and frequently the incident that caused the banning is deleted from public view, so you wouldn't necessarily see it. . . and then it's easy to assume things.

Fair enough. I hope that is all true.

[Guest]

Keep the rules, play nice, and everything will be peachy. Closing thread.