Guest bizabra Posted January 28, 2004 Report Posted January 28, 2004 Originally posted by Peace+Jan 23 2004, 09:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peace @ Jan 23 2004, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -antishock82003@Jan 23 2004, 05:09 PM Originally posted by -Peace@Jan 23 2004, 04:44 PM Originally posted by -curvette@Jan 23 2004, 03:44 PM <!--QuoteBegin--USNationalist@Jan 23 2004, 03:30 PM ...so then if they did have steel how come we didnt find any old steel stuff. Last i heard the people around when cortez showed up had no steel. The steel is a problem. I've never heard a satisfactory answer to that one since it is specifically called "steel" in the same sentence that other similar metals are listed. Steel:A generally hard, strong, durable, malleable alloy of iron and carbon, usually containing between 0.2 and 1.5 percent carbon, often with other constituents such as manganese, chromium, nickel, molybdenum, copper, tungsten, cobalt, or silicon, depending on the desired alloy properties, and widely used as a structural material. Since it is made up of all these different combinations...and different steel had different make-ups...we don't know that it was the same thing as we have today.It could have been mostly iron...which will rust. Yep. Sure is a lucky thing how all that ancient steel in Britain, Rome, Greece, Damascus, and China just didn't dissolve away. Must've been something in the air over here in America... Okay....on the premis of steel not being found here....lets just say it is all a bunch of crap...However, on the premis of the truth taught in the BofM...lets go forward and become the kind of people that can become united and peaceful.The world you are living in can only get better by doing so.Do you believe in a supreme being? (just trying to get a handle on what you believe in....I pretty much know what you don't believe in. lol)It would be interesting, however, to wonder if God removed all the evidence or has just placed a veil upon all things pertaining to 'physical proof' of the BofM so as to not allow just anyone to fall unwittingly into the church...without exercising faith. Here's her entire post as proof! Come to Mistress. . . . . Quote
Guest Jaxon Posted January 28, 2004 Report Posted January 28, 2004 Originally posted by bizabra+Jan 28 2004, 12:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bizabra @ Jan 28 2004, 12:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Peace@Jan 23 2004, 09:56 PM Originally posted by -antishock82003@Jan 23 2004, 05:09 PM Originally posted by -Peace@Jan 23 2004, 04:44 PM Originally posted by -curvette@Jan 23 2004, 03:44 PM <!--QuoteBegin--USNationalist@Jan 23 2004, 03:30 PM ...so then if they did have steel how come we didnt find any old steel stuff. Last i heard the people around when cortez showed up had no steel. The steel is a problem. I've never heard a satisfactory answer to that one since it is specifically called "steel" in the same sentence that other similar metals are listed. Steel:A generally hard, strong, durable, malleable alloy of iron and carbon, usually containing between 0.2 and 1.5 percent carbon, often with other constituents such as manganese, chromium, nickel, molybdenum, copper, tungsten, cobalt, or silicon, depending on the desired alloy properties, and widely used as a structural material. Since it is made up of all these different combinations...and different steel had different make-ups...we don't know that it was the same thing as we have today.It could have been mostly iron...which will rust. Yep. Sure is a lucky thing how all that ancient steel in Britain, Rome, Greece, Damascus, and China just didn't dissolve away. Must've been something in the air over here in America... Okay....on the premis of steel not being found here....lets just say it is all a bunch of crap...However, on the premis of the truth taught in the BofM...lets go forward and become the kind of people that can become united and peaceful.The world you are living in can only get better by doing so.Do you believe in a supreme being? (just trying to get a handle on what you believe in....I pretty much know what you don't believe in. lol)It would be interesting, however, to wonder if God removed all the evidence or has just placed a veil upon all things pertaining to 'physical proof' of the BofM so as to not allow just anyone to fall unwittingly into the church...without exercising faith. Here's her entire post as proof! Come to Mistress. . . . . I've seen your pic... Will you hold me too? Quote
Paul Osborne Posted January 28, 2004 Report Posted January 28, 2004 Originally posted by bizabra+Jan 27 2004, 11:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bizabra @ Jan 27 2004, 11:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Paul Osborne@Jan 22 2004, 07:29 PM BIZ: The argument from Pauls Beliefs: I believe that horses existed in America before the Spaniards showed up. I believe the Book of Mormon is true and my faith is assured whether there is physical evidence or not.Paul O Therefore, the church is true.Criminy! Too easy! But fun. . . . . . Sure, the Church is true. I believe the miracles recorded in the Bible are true. I believe Jesus rose from the dead.Must I have physical proof to believe these things? Paul O Quote
Guest bizabra Posted January 28, 2004 Report Posted January 28, 2004 Originally posted by Jaxon+Jan 28 2004, 12:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jaxon @ Jan 28 2004, 12:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -bizabra@Jan 28 2004, 12:55 AM Originally posted by -Peace@Jan 23 2004, 09:56 PM Originally posted by -antishock82003@Jan 23 2004, 05:09 PM Originally posted by -Peace@Jan 23 2004, 04:44 PM Originally posted by -curvette@Jan 23 2004, 03:44 PM <!--QuoteBegin--USNationalist@Jan 23 2004, 03:30 PM ...so then if they did have steel how come we didnt find any old steel stuff. Last i heard the people around when cortez showed up had no steel. The steel is a problem. I've never heard a satisfactory answer to that one since it is specifically called "steel" in the same sentence that other similar metals are listed. Steel:A generally hard, strong, durable, malleable alloy of iron and carbon, usually containing between 0.2 and 1.5 percent carbon, often with other constituents such as manganese, chromium, nickel, molybdenum, copper, tungsten, cobalt, or silicon, depending on the desired alloy properties, and widely used as a structural material. Since it is made up of all these different combinations...and different steel had different make-ups...we don't know that it was the same thing as we have today.It could have been mostly iron...which will rust. Yep. Sure is a lucky thing how all that ancient steel in Britain, Rome, Greece, Damascus, and China just didn't dissolve away. Must've been something in the air over here in America... Okay....on the premis of steel not being found here....lets just say it is all a bunch of crap...However, on the premis of the truth taught in the BofM...lets go forward and become the kind of people that can become united and peaceful.The world you are living in can only get better by doing so.Do you believe in a supreme being? (just trying to get a handle on what you believe in....I pretty much know what you don't believe in. lol)It would be interesting, however, to wonder if God removed all the evidence or has just placed a veil upon all things pertaining to 'physical proof' of the BofM so as to not allow just anyone to fall unwittingly into the church...without exercising faith. Here's her entire post as proof! Come to Mistress. . . . . I've seen your pic... Will you hold me too? Only If you can pitch a tent! Quote
Guest Taoist_Saint Posted January 29, 2004 Report Posted January 29, 2004 Originally posted by bizabra@Jan 27 2004, 11:24 PM from Peace-It would be interesting, however, to wonder if God removed all the evidence or has just placed a veil upon all things pertaining to 'physical proof' of the BofM so as to not allow just anyone to fall unwittingly into the church...without exercising faith. ...and then God created illusionary evidence for evolution. Don't forget that. Quote
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