Mullenite Posted April 17, 2008 Report Posted April 17, 2008 John 10:33-36 records part of an exchange between Jesus and some Jewish scribes in which the Savior cited man's potential for Godhood in order to refute the change that He had committed blasphemy by claiming to be the Son of God. In refuting the scribes, Jesus quoted Psalm 82:6; where Elohim says, "I have said, Ye are gods; and of you are children of the Most High." There is a great of debate about the precise meaning of this Psalm in the Old Testament context. An analysis of that debate is beyond the scope of the present discussion. The most important thing about this verse is that Jesus interpreted it to mean that mankind had the potential for deification. Some commentators disagree and suggest Christ was quoting Psalm 86:6; sarcastically so as to mock and condemn the Jews who were challenging him. Among other things, advocates of this position point to the Savior's use of the word "called" and maintain that therefore Jesus was not teaching that man could actually be defiled. However, such an interpretation dose not fit the context of Christ's usage of the Psalm, and it takes the logical force out of his argument. John 10:33-36 reads as follows in the RSV: The Jews answered him, :It is not for a good work that we stone you but for blasphemy; because you, being a man, yourself God." Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law, 'I said, you are gods'? If he called them gods to whom the word of God came (and scripture cannot be broken), do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, 'You are blaspheming,' because I said, I am the Son of God?"" If we say that Psalms 82:6 was quoted merely to condemn the Jewish scribes, then the Savior's argument is deprived of any logical force. If Christ was not citing Psalm 82:6 to appeal to man's potential for divinization, then the scribes could very well have replied as follows: How does this Psalm help your case? If you're saying this verse does not mean we can become gods, and if you are only quoting it to label us as such in order to condemn us, than how does this Psalm mitigate your claim to be the Messianic Son of God, I.e., Jehovah come to earth? What difference does it make if men are merely called "goh" and "son of the Most High," when you claim to be Yahweh himself (John 8:58)? Who cares what men are called, when you assert that the Father has placed "allthings" in your hands, thatyou are the key to eternal life, and that no one can come unto the Father except through you (John 3:35-36; 5:18-47; 8:13-42)? The plain sense of the Savior's reply to the Jews is that He was appealing to man's potential for Godhood to demonstrate the inconsistency of the charge that had committed blasphemy by claiming to be the Son of God. In other words, Christ was saying to his detractors, "Why do you accuse me of blasphemy for claiming to be the Son of God when all men are children of the Most High and have the potential to become like him?" Quote
bert10 Posted April 17, 2008 Report Posted April 17, 2008 A humble and meek person whose bowels are full of compassion and mercy is not Sarcastic. This is a wicked Character trait and is of the world. And God is not of the World neither does He teaches using the ways of the wicked.TEACHING BY OPPOSITES:This is also a common form of teaching. We can teach and clarify a statement simply by showing the opposite of the statement. This is most effective when we have live examples even if it is of what we should not do.Let us see how God uses these Palms verses and in what manner the judges and princes of Israel failed to do in order to qualify as being a True Son of God.The Lord begins by Enumerating what the Judges and Princes of Israel are failing in. Then He sets the standards of what it is to be a True Son of God and then he tells them because of their position of authority they shall die like men [because the wages of sin always lead to the grave]Psalms 82:1 - A Psalm of Asaph. God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.By The Respecting of persons and by bribes neglecting the poor we fail God.Psalms 82:2 - How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.Psalms 82:3 - Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.Psalms 82:4 - Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.Psalms 82:5 - They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.We are truly the children of the Most High. And because of this we shall always act like a Caring and just father especially when we are in position of authority. We are Gods [Good] and because we are Good [Gods] Our Father is expecting more from us than the wicked have done above.Psalms 82:6 - I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.We are to clothes, feed and nourish the poor. We are to visit the sick and the prisoners [if it is possible] We are to be kind, compassionate and merciful unto others.Psalms 82:7 - But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.Because Ye have failed to act Goodly........Ye shall die like men and fall like the princes of Israel. For God is no respecter persons...and shall give to all men their dues according to each of our works as it is written many times in scriptures.Psalms 82:8 - Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.----------------------------------------------------------And in the New Testament....when Jesus defended Himself of the charges of Blasphemy by claiming to be God....Jesus reminded the wicked the words of Psalms....I have said Ye are Gods.This is the true interpretation of what is meant....Ye are Gods. There is more to this...but it is sufficient.Peace be unto youbert10 Quote
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