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Morning star - YES of course I am having a reception/celebration afterwards! Are you kidding? Any excuse for a party is excuse enough for me. 08/08/08 - the date is set! 8AM!

What if I just said the traditional "So and so are getting married at this place on this day..." And that's it? No dates or times, and I just include a reception card with the ones I want there?

Well, my family got what they wanted when I was married initially. I don't really mind that they can't see me get married in the temple because it doesn't mean as much to them as it does to me.

This was my favorite talk for this conference! I am going to send my father, who is a non-member, a clip of this video. I think it will answer a lot of his questions!

Does anyone know how to word a temple wedding invitation/announcement? We want to annouce to our extended family and friends that we are getting married in the temple. Many of them aren't members, and even the ones who are we don't necessarily want there. We JUST want family at both the sealing and reception. So do I include like...TWO cards in one envelope? One announcing the wedding, and one inviting the family? How can I do it on ONE invitation only?

He he, so you're equating feminism with racism and chauvinism? I'm sure that's not what you meant, but you worded it that way! Ha ha.

Wow, you're worse than me! LOL

Ya like that? Hee hee.

THANK YOU!

I don't get it. Can we put this in lamans terms please?

I am more than willing to accept that price, and I am sure everyone else is, or should be. In other Christian denominations it's either you believe in our God, or go to Hell. I would rather go to the lowest level of Heaven than Hell. Of course. I think other people need to realize this.

So wait - in order to get to the CK you don't have to be married. But to get into the HIGHEST level of the CK, what are the requirements then? What are the requirements to get into the lowest level of the CK?

Yes, I really like this concept and it's unique to our church. God gives everyone a second chance according to our gospel. It's wonderful.

Before, you said: So, you don't make sense! CK=Celestial Kingdom. Which is the highest level. Which is what I was talking about. HEAVEN isn't reserved for married couples, the CK is.

I know, that's what I was saying!

Right - in order to get to the CK you need to be married. But for the other levels it's not required.

No, those are biological differences. Like I said, penis:vagina as red:orange. Now, an apple could complain that it doesn't get an equal chance to be eaten by someone. Or an orange could complain that apples have a better chance of being picked. But they don't (well, they're fruit) but if they could they would say "No, we both get equal chance to be eaten and picked." Not men and women. Women can't say "I have an equal chance at being a priesthood holder." I know it's a ridiculous analogy, but it makes sense. I will pray and read about it. Maybe I will get an answer.

Well, I would approach the Lord the exact same way. I would simply ask the question. Why can't women hold the priesthood? Of course I can't speculate as to his answer, but I have a feeling it's not going to be "Because men are better/more responsible/etc.." Why? Because we are ALL his children. No one is "better or worse" because of their sex or biological traits. We are different, but equal. Like apples and oranges. Equal, but different. We should all have access to the same rights, privileges, and duties as our counterparts. God doesn't always speak to everyone in the same way. Even the Prophet. Maybe God will come right out and tell the Prophet, "Okay, it's time to allow women to hold the priesthood." Maybe he will do it in a different way. Maybe there are more women out there with this concern who aren't willing to address it formally to the Prophet himself. Maybe he will notice more and more women realizing the inequality in the church and it will finally ignore his traditional upbringing and ask God, "Should women hold the priesthood?" I have a feeling very few have asked this question to God. Just because we have callings or duties, doesn't necessarily mean that they are what we are MEANT to do. I know plenty of people in the church who have revoke their calling because they hate it, or aren't good at it. Just because God hasn't called women to be priesthood holders, doesn't mean it's not going to happen one day. God has His ways, and whether it's up to us to initiate it, or up to Him - He finds a way. With the whole "bearing children" thing - that's really a non-issue. It's like saying it's unfair because men have penises and we don't, or women have vagina's and boobs and hey, "That's not fair!" God didn't give the priesthood to men because he felt sorry for them. Biological differences have no place in this discussion.

I think this is an excuse women give because there is nothing they can do to change it. Before the feminist movement, I am sure many women said "Oh, who would want to WORK every day?" It's not that I personally WANT the priesthood. It's the fact that women CAN'T have the priesthood. Everything should be equal. There's nothing that men can't have. If you're going to say "Men can't get pregnant" that's different. That's an unchangeable biological trait, not something that's possible to equalize.

Actually yes it is.

Yes, I know I come off as some crazy feminist, but really I am playing devil's advocate. I guess we won't really know until we get there. But I just hate being a member of a crowd who are okay with the "ignorance is bliss" theory. To an extent, I can understand not questioning God's motives and teachings. But I was really surprised to see how many people in the church never really think about things like this, and if they do - they reply with a testimony and a claim that "we will find out everything in time." I'm making generalizations, not everyone is that way. But many are. While I am a college grad, my ultimate goal is to be an excellent mother and wife while running a successful business (if not a few) from home. But I won't sit back and ignore both those desires, and the need for answers to many questions I have.

Yes, I agree. The motives are generally the same (wealth, sex, power) for those who commit sins and crime throughout history. And God always finds a way to try and keep the true gospel on Earth. A little harsh on the men though. Of all the crime, men ARE the ones who statistically commit more of it. But then again, the same goes for those who attempt to fight crime.

Paragraph one: Well said. Paragraph two: Why would we need a prophet today if everything were the same today as it was back then? Why does the prophet constantly receive "updated" revelations from God? Things change, people change, there may be some similarities but not enough to say we are still in the stone age. In just 100 short years we've invented the automobile, the computer, the internet, had the feminist and civil rights movements among thousands of other changes. I mean, the automobile shapes half the reason for our political beliefs and foreign relations. And the feminist movement - I don't even understand why it had to happen in the first place. Women should have ALWAYS been equal to men. I just don't get why they weren't. Anyway, the point is.... things may seem similar, but in reality we are the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. LATTER Day Saints. Not "let's live in the past" saints.

I find it wierd that I might be sealed to some random stranger because my husband is unrighteous. Sorry, I would rather kick it as a lonsome angel than be sealed to someone with a bunch of wives who I don't even know.

Because God allows and calls for polygamy when it is NEEDED. Why would God need it?